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NeoNPL 03-01-2002 12:09 AM

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Originally posted by Valder
Don't do it because all of the people that worked hard to get what they have don't want it to vanish.

slp 03-01-2002 12:18 AM

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Originally posted by Serena82
I am Furious right now that a re-set would even be considered.
I have worked and worked for what I have.
Unlike a lot that I know of. Please don't pretend that ALL
here have worked for what they have now. A lot haven't.
You know who you are. There has definitely been Cheaters who
have excess amount of money hats etc;
Why should us HONEST people suffer because of the CHEATERS here?
As far as the New People, Most would rather beg as to work,
which makes me think they are probably like this in Real Life.
They would rather spend 30 minutes begging for 1G than to go bake bread
which takes very little time!!!!
Sure it is just a Game, but aren't we supposed to enjoy it?
I can tell you this...I will not re-new and a lot of my friends
won't either.
So how would this help Stefan and Unixmads Company?
BTW..Whose idea was this?

i feel bad for you because remeber i used to hang out with you a luc way back when, i remeber when you got your house, you are the only person that had ever had that house, you have worked for ever to get were you are today, you are probly one of the only true people on this server, one of the honest peaple.

its hard i knot but i still think it would be good, they need to get rid of alot of money, Konidias made a donation thing at the market today and i put all my money in there, that was 10k, that is a little bit of a start, but there are people with 50k, 20k that is way too much, there were few peolple back in the day like a year ago accually even longer then that, that didnt even have 10k and a little after that the person with the most money barly had over 10k, and there wernt many people with money near that, thats how it should be again. i dont think people should lose there house's now, but everyone should get there money taken away and start from the begining again.

slp 03-01-2002 12:22 AM

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Originally posted by Falcor
WEll , if you aresuper rich, thier really is nothing to buy.... I mean all you do is collect hats or dolls. that is it? This isnt a card collecting game =\... If you wanna collect stuff, buy pokeymon cards or something. I would suggests a reset becasue with that we can make the economy less centered around collecting worthless things.
I think that the high dimand should be more things to do, not to buy and sell, we need things like quests, and long adventures, such as like on zelda were you get the blue chicken, then you give it to the weak guy, and then you get more and more things that you have to give to poeple and stuff, then at the end you get the Gordon sword, thats an adventure, there should be stuff like that, along with quests, gives people stuff to do, kingdoms should get back into the grove and start doing kindom events, im not talking about winning trophys but the leaders of the kindoms should start doing things for there people, events and stuff (like have a festavil) and stuff like that.

Stuff like that should be more in demand then stupid dolls, and hats, thoughs you should beable to make on your own just like the shovels and cans.

slp 03-01-2002 12:24 AM

heck ill help things like this get started, if i could get together with like kon. and sk, and maybe falidos.

AlexH 03-01-2002 12:27 AM

Maybe we could make an NPC that is like a wallet and it can only hold so much money. (say 5k for arguements sake)
And once you have 10k in the wallet you cannot get anymore money.
You would need to put it in a house chest but we could also make them have a limit on them. (say 15k)
So basically what you are doing is restricting the amount of money that any one player can have to 25k.
Thats one way to solve the money problem.
Another would just to make people with more moeny lose more when they die.
Or simply just make items more expensive so money would be drained faster.
Like the staff NPC SK is making (the one thats for mining, pking, shoots magic, crafts etc) that should cost a lot of money because it can do so many things.
Well thats all my ideas for solving the money problems.

slp 03-01-2002 12:29 AM

good idea :)

88Mike88 03-01-2002 12:29 AM

well, i think it wold be good, and bad because this way everyone will be treated exually and will be able to get a job like police. Faq, or et, and also there will be bomys, hats, dolls, and player worlds, but if you recet everything this will mean that everyone who worked harder than anyone else will be brought down to 0.

DarkCloud_PK 03-01-2002 12:36 AM

Reset isn't smart, this is like saying to people that buy your game "Your saved game will reset when you reach a certain point." Face it, a reset is a BAD thing, not only will it piss off droves of people, it is the easy way out of this evil, money-ridden server, if you just reset and leave it, Graal will eventually turn into what it was again. It's just giving a terminally-ill person some more days to live. Instead of giving Graal2001 a fresh start in a bad economy, cure the "illness", or in other words, FIX THE DAMNED ECONOMY. I've heard countless good opinons on this thread and it would be good to follow them. Get rid of these damned dolls, they are pointless. I don't think hats were ever supposed to be like this, get rid of this whole selling hats crap and keep the business
1.Limited(You can only have 8-9 hats)
2.Between the Player and the Hat Shop.

Now, you need to make some new, more fun jobs, for both Bomys and Humans. Make it so they use skill and thought,, with more rnaomd results, instead of pressing D repeatedly.

Once you have Graal's economy cured, then you should get the server reset, but don't reset the server until you have cured what is wrong with it.

Googi 03-01-2002 12:36 AM

Well, I hope that there is a reset, even if we don't get more bread baking tables, but I hope we do x_x

DarkCloud_PK 03-01-2002 12:39 AM

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Originally posted by 88Mike88
well, i think it wold be good, and bad because this way everyone will be treated exually and will be able to get a job like police. Faq, or et, and also there will be bomys, hats, dolls, and player worlds, but if you recet everything this will mean that everyone who worked harder than anyone else will be brought down to 0.
Oh yes, that reminds me, you really should start paying these guys(FAQ, Police,Events Team, etc.) by the difficulty of the job and what they do. Pretty soon they are going to get sick of doing voulenteer work.

Like FAQ gets 10g an hour for doing FAQ work, only happens when tag is on for an hour and such.

Police can get like 7g for the same thing.

Events Team can have some profit from holding Events, like 2g for each event held.

Include that in this little Graal Reform that should happen

Saga2001 03-01-2002 12:58 AM

man do i wish i would have chosen to bake a cake.

AlexH 03-01-2002 01:03 AM

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Originally posted by DarkCloud_PK


Oh yes, that reminds me, you really should start paying these guys(FAQ, Police,Events Team, etc.) by the difficulty of the job and what they do. Pretty soon they are going to get sick of doing voulenteer work.

Like FAQ gets 10g an hour for doing FAQ work, only happens when tag is on for an hour and such.

Police can get like 7g for the same thing.

Events Team can have some profit from holding Events, like 2g for each event held.

Include that in this little Graal Reform that should happen

Police is a harderjob than FAQ.
FAQ requires knowledge of the server but police you need to deal with complaints from people and when you decide to jail/or not jail a person the other person will start complaining and getting mad just because you did/didn't jail the other person.
And if you get mad and start insulting that person there just gonna get even mader and start complaining.

DarkCloud_PK 03-01-2002 01:07 AM

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Originally posted by AlexH


Police is a harderjob than FAQ.
FAQ requires knowledge of the server but police you need to deal with complaints from people and when you decide to jail/or not jail a person the other person will start complaining and getting mad just because you did/didn't jail the other person.
And if you get mad and start insulting that person there just gonna get even mader and start complaining.

Okay then, give more of a salary to the Police then. I just used that as an example for my idea, the management can set the values.

Shorty2Dope 03-01-2002 01:15 AM

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Originally posted by AlexH


Police is a harderjob than FAQ.
FAQ requires knowledge of the server but police you need to deal with complaints from people and when you decide to jail/or not jail a person the other person will start complaining and getting mad just because you did/didn't jail the other person.
And if you get mad and start insulting that person there just gonna get even mader and start complaining.

Not really. I am a FAQ and I do 3x more than a Police has ever done. I even do police work, I do Bugs admin work, i help people, I give answers. I am teh super FAQ. Now all I need is to be able to jail and I will take care of the law breakers. :D

vovavziggy 03-01-2002 01:54 AM

YES! Because I have 0g:D

freddyfox 03-01-2002 01:59 AM

From The Fallen Angel:

I heard about this topic, and while it would have been a good idea long ago before all the inflation and such it would be a bad idea now. Many people have given up a lot of their time to get the ammount of things to have. I know that after I got the diamond axe, fire-ball all my fish and everything that I wouldn't want to lose it all. People have worked hard; do not make the work be in vain for them. I would especially hate for all the people I gave my stuff to (like my playerhouse to kamuii and my doll to Wing, and the halo hat craig gave me so long ago, that I gave him back) to be gone *snaps* just like that. Long ago, like say maybe a few months ago, yes. Now, no. Sorry, I felt I should say something atleast.

Krakken 03-01-2002 02:51 AM

Geeze... damn stubborn people. Most of you don't seem to have a clue how much fun it was when everyone was poor when Graal2001 was first released... you have gotta let go sometimes to have fun.

I strongly vote yes.

freddyfox 03-01-2002 02:53 AM

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Originally posted by Krakken
Geeze... damn stubborn people. Most of you don't seem to have a clue how much fun it was when everyone was poor when Graal2001 was first released... you have gotta let go sometimes to have fun.

I strongly vote yes.

Try all you want to say otherwise, but there WILL be a good majority that will be very angry and will quit if a reset happens.

I'd like to see it over again, but with all the jobs and economy fillers we have now, we'll be back to our same position in a month or less.

Like I said before, this might have worked a year ago. Not now.

TheKaizer 03-01-2002 02:55 AM

Um...No I don't support this idea...I have a bomy, 12k and hats and I worked really hard for all of it...=(

Krakken 03-01-2002 03:08 AM

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Originally posted by TheKaizer
Um...No I don't support this idea...I have a bomy, 12k and hats and I worked really hard for all of it...=(
This is what I mean! Who cares if you lose everything? Everyone will have... then we won't nees these damn gralat relieving schemes. The Economy will be fixed.

All of us worked hard to get where we are... I hope you have fun with your stuff that you are so protective of. It seems like you'll have lots of fun with it...

I have been on Graal2001 since the very start and when you have everything it really is dull. Give it up folks... start afresh.

vovavziggy 03-01-2002 03:10 AM

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Originally posted by Krakken


This is what I mean! Who cares if you lose everything? Everyone will have... then we won't nees these damn gralat relieving schemes. The Economy will be fixed.

All of us worked hard to get where we are... I hope you have fun with your stuff that you are so protective of. It seems like you'll have lots of fun with it...

I have been on Graal2001 since the very start and when you have everything it really is dull. Give it up folks... start afresh.

Hah! They can't start afresh! They're posessed by it because it gives them some kind of status on Graal! Muahah!

Krakken 03-01-2002 03:21 AM

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Originally posted by vovavziggy


Hah! They can't start afresh! They're posessed by it because it gives them some kind of status on Graal! Muahah!

Haha, indeed. :)

DragonX2 03-01-2002 03:27 AM

I voted YES.
I do not care if I lose my money (I only have 4.5k anyway and a bogenera hat). The only thing I would like to keep is though is my bomy. So yes, I say reset but ONLY everything other than the bomys.

Aliendude 03-01-2002 03:32 AM

I'm sure you guys can find a better solution to saving the econonmy then restarting everything. My friends got a Graal account a week ago and they already have an uberking, diamond axe and a few other hats. It isn't impossible for newbies to get what they want. Prices are alot higher, but it is also much easier to make money now. If you don't like how G2k1 has an important economy, maybe you should go to a differant server, or just ignore the economy. No one is forcing you to run around in the market and look at the high prices.

A reset would be crazy, 500 hours of my life would be wasted.

Krakken 03-01-2002 03:34 AM

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Originally posted by DragonX2
I voted YES.
I do not care if I lose my money (I only have 4.5k anyway and a bogenera hat). The only thing I would like to keep is though is my bomy. So yes, I say reset but ONLY everything other than the bomys.

It's the full thing my friend... I'd give up my Draktha beacuse I will work to get him back :)

thomasward 03-01-2002 03:35 AM

How about this idea?
(I'm not sure if its already been said because I didn't read all the other posts - too many -)

Anyway, I think there should be a reset (my opinion) but I believe some things should be changed in the items department. I reckon that say with hats, you can hold a maximum of say 5 or 10 and that if you want better hats you have to get rid of the ones you have. But lets say you can't sell the hat, well then you can go back to the shop you bought it from, and sell it to the shop owner guy for say 60% of what you bought it for, and then the hat is restocked on the shelf. This could be done with many things probably, like a limit on dolls and stuff. Also, maybe they could put a limit of gralats you could have maybe 19,999? or even 29,999?

Constinople 03-01-2002 03:38 AM

I shouldnt of showed bird the infaltion problem now hes reseting!

DragonX2 03-01-2002 03:41 AM

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Originally posted by Krakken


It's the full thing my friend... I'd give up my Draktha beacuse I will work to get him back :)

Than...than...
I would work to get my bomy back too :-D
It was fun when I first came here, there was no market or farming than gradually it came to g2k1, I was happy farming but nowadays people sell apples for free to try to scam so if you are new and have 0g you can just get apples for free and forget about farming, also the market has spread around a lot of money of the players and it just keeps rotating to everyone. Reset everything, it's fine by me since we will all be equal again. :cool:

Shorty2Dope 03-01-2002 03:43 AM

they wont reset, to many people are against it.

Griffyn 03-01-2002 03:44 AM

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Originally posted by Constinople
I shouldnt of showed bird the infaltion problem now hes reseting!
i highly doubt that, and go eat cake

88Mike88 03-01-2002 03:46 AM

i will only agree to what Birdbird has said if we make more jobs avalable because to many people will be baking bread, farming, and pking.

Also if there will be wild bomys then....RECET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wing 03-01-2002 03:47 AM

reset

make everything pay half of what it used to

hats between player and npc

that about sums it up.

thomasward 03-01-2002 03:48 AM

I think one reason that no-one does the jobs anymore like farming is because they take so long, you end up with very little, and they are SO boring. We need better jobs online to keep people more interested about making money the proper way.

Gangster88 03-01-2002 03:49 AM

NOOOOOOOOO are you insane?

craig_bomy 03-01-2002 03:50 AM

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Originally posted by freddyfox


"Pinky! Are you wondering what I'm pondering?"

"I think so brain, but me and Pippi Longstocking? What would the children look like?"

Pinky are you pondering what Im pondering? I think so Brain but where are we going to find leather pants our size?

AlexH 03-01-2002 03:51 AM

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Originally posted by Krakken


It's the full thing my friend... I'd give up my Draktha beacuse I will work to get him back :)

You have draktha bomy?
Is it draktha 3 (the black one)

Aliendude 03-01-2002 03:53 AM

Maybe if the staff would stop making NPCs for themselves, and made some for everyone else Graal might become more fun (atleast one staff person is making NPCs for other people then themselves). Put them at the end of quests, or give them out for prizes at events. That way people would get out of the market and go have fun...That way everyone can keep there money/hats/items and the people that want a reset can have more fun again...

I noticed that people with bomys (not all of them, but alot) want everything to be reset accept for bomys...that isn't very fair, is it -.-?

acidfear 03-01-2002 03:54 AM

No... even though im no rich like other people I still had to work to get what i waned. Its too much of a loss for people to lose everything they worked for.;)

ps: i agree with aliendude

craig_bomy 03-01-2002 03:57 AM

Take away all gralats, and make hats the way they used to be. Except now you can hold 4-5 hats with you. Those days were the best. And events will be more fun and us ETs wont need to spend 500 g for 10 minutes of survivor. People are like "HA I HAVE 73897298K NO NEED FOR EVENTS"
so just reset gralats and change hats.

Aliendude 03-01-2002 03:59 AM

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Originally posted by craig_bomy
Take away all gralats, and make hats the way they used to be. Except now you can hold 4-5 hats with you. Those days were the best. And events will be more fun and us ETs wont need to spend 500 g for 10 minutes of survivor. People are like "HA I HAVE 73897298K NO NEED FOR EVENTS"
so just reset gralats and change hats.

Would you really want those people playing survivor with you anyways? Alot of people play events just for fun - not for the money. I play events if it's for nothing all the time. If those people think they're so great because they are rich, let them be that way. Go have fun without them while they stare at their gralats.


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