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Birdbird_0 02-25-2002 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Hulk Hogan


You forgot about me.
I've had local RC there for MONTHS as ART and ART Admin....

I answer pm's.. I usually dont get the ones about adding dolls and hats and stuff because people know by what i can and can not do. I occasionaly get a pm from someone asking for money...But not a whole lot...

sorry forgot about art :x

konidias 02-25-2002 08:53 AM

Contego has a problem with banning staff instead of taking away rights or tags.. it's either because he is lazy, or likes to use his power to ban.

I mean, seriously. He bans alkaren and birdbird for arguing with him? WTF?

That's about as bad as Antago disconnecting me from RC when I was arguing with him, me getting back on, someone disconnecting him for disconnecting me, and then he gets back on and says "don't you ever disconnect me again" :rolleyes:

Brad 02-25-2002 08:55 AM

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Originally posted by konidias
Contego has a problem with banning staff instead of taking away rights or tags.. it's either because he is lazy, or likes to use his power to ban.

I mean, seriously. He bans alkaren and birdbird for arguing with him? WTF?

That's about as bad as Antago disconnecting me from RC when I was arguing with him, me getting back on, someone disconnecting him for disconnecting me, and then he gets back on and says "don't you ever disconnect me again" :rolleyes:

That was the funniest moment I ever had when I had rc on 2k1.

Oh, and if Brad was admin none of this would happen. ;)

Hulk Hogan 02-25-2002 08:59 AM

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Originally posted by Birdbird_0


sorry forgot about art :x

Its ok ;)

Sheesh i'm having a busy night telling people about the hackers on aim.

And Alkaren wasn't banned? A hacker was on his account earlier around 6:00 PM EST and SK banned it to stop the hacker....

galen 02-25-2002 08:59 AM

I've read the RC chat log that started this whole shabang. I saw many issues broght up. Rather than of placing blame or detailing "what I think should be done", I will say this. Let Unixmad do his thing, then we can decide if it is for better or for worse. There's absolutely no point arguing over it when the decision has already been made. It's time to sit back and watch. for those of you who lost your access, take a well diserved break from Graal. Go outside, get some ice cream, have a normal life even if it is only for a few days :p

Birdbird_0 02-25-2002 09:02 AM

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Originally posted by galen
I've read the RC chat log that started this whole shabang. I saw many issues broght up. Rather than of placing blame or detailing "what I think should be done", I will say this. Let Unixmad do his thing, then we can decide if it is for better or for worse. There's absolutely no point arguing over it when the decision has already been made. It's time to sit back and watch. for those of you who lost your access, take a well diserved break from Graal. Go outside, get some ice cream, have a normal life even if it is only for a few days :p
Forced Take of Leave..
:(

Lyndzey 02-25-2002 09:02 AM

I don't see why you guys complain about PMs...
When I log on RC, I get about 5 PMs because I don't have my tag on yet, because my Graal is loading. When I check Graal, I have about 10 PMs. I answer every single one of them. While I am answering those, more are coming. There are so many flags on Classic, that opening up an account with like 5 hearts can easily freeze my RC. Most of the PMs are saying "hi", and so I say hi back. Get the point?

Hulk Hogan 02-25-2002 09:06 AM

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Originally posted by Lyndzey
I don't see why you guys complain about PMs...
When I log on RC, I get about 5 PMs because I don't have my tag on yet, because my Graal is loading. When I check Graal, I have about 10 PMs. I answer every single one of them. While I am answering those, more are coming. There are so many flags on Classic, that opening up an account with like 5 hearts can easily freeze my RC. Most of the PMs are saying "hi", and so I say hi back. Get the point?

I dont seem to get alot of pm's....

I guess maybe since people know who has FTP and who doesn't by now they know who to ask to get what they want....

Birdbird_0 02-25-2002 09:12 AM

I get 20 pms a mintue on rc, and also in game the same amount. I can;t really play graal.

Brad 02-25-2002 09:17 AM

I get pm'd alot and I am just a player. :p

James205 02-25-2002 09:35 AM

Ugh one day I am gone and hell breaks loose. Luckily I was the only one who was spared and have my global still and unbanned Birdbird ;)

DeathChill 02-25-2002 09:38 AM

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Originally posted by James205
Ugh one day I am gone and hell breaks loose. Luckily I was the only one who was spared and have my global still and unbanned Birdbird ;)
Lucky you ;)
Atleast you can work ;)

Brad 02-25-2002 09:39 AM

Oy.

Shorty2Dope 02-25-2002 10:21 AM

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Originally posted by konidias
Contego has a problem with banning staff instead of taking away rights or tags.. it's either because he is lazy, or likes to use his power to ban.

I mean, seriously. He bans alkaren and birdbird for arguing with him? WTF?

That's about as bad as Antago disconnecting me from RC when I was arguing with him, me getting back on, someone disconnecting him for disconnecting me, and then he gets back on and says "don't you ever disconnect me again" :rolleyes:

lol haha, I am sorry but I have always hated antago, I don't know why.. he is just a cold 2 faced kid. I have seen him act perfect and mature to all of you but behind your back he was swearing to people on graal and being a real jerk. I have no respect for him :(

Torankusu 02-25-2002 11:44 AM

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Originally posted by Lyndzey


I did. He did not fire you. He does not fire without talking to unixmad, which is the right thing to do.

That was his intial plan. To fire me.

Why? Because I was following the orders of Loriel, who was named higher than HROs and such from a post Stefan made. I told her where she could find the list, and she found it. Then she told Contego I was being uncooperative.

KawaiiSaRiA 02-25-2002 11:48 AM

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Originally posted by Torankusu
That was his intial plan. To fire me.

Why? Because I was following the orders of Loriel, who was named higher than HROs and such from a post Stefan made. I told her where she could find the list, and she found it. Then she told Contego I was being uncooperative.

I did...?

Tyhm 02-25-2002 12:22 PM

We need a charter saying who can hire/fire who. I like the LAT one: People are only hired during a publically announced hiring period by a majority vote, anyone can try to fire anyone else by starting a firing vote, 2/3 majority needed to do it. EXCEPTIONS go through Stefan and Unixmad. I've never had to get my staff changes approved - even if I'm being a biased bastard, I get one vote and the tiebreaker, that's hardly enough to screw up the whole process.

It's when the FAQ Admin is replaced overnight by a former civilian or L4 RCs are given to brand-spanking-new admin positions that there's a problem. And GP hiring, wts? "We'll hire you when we feel like it based on who we feel we can trust?" I hope that's been revised...

Torankusu 02-25-2002 01:10 PM

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Originally posted by KawaiiSaRiA

I did...?

What are you questioning? The part where you got the list, or you telling contego i was uncooperative?

Kaimetsu 02-25-2002 01:38 PM

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Current state.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Mr. Bear

I also some staff im not going to mention flashing their npcs that they made for themselves in the markets.

I think it's possible that you're talking about me with the fireworks. If so:

Please learn to follow the see->think->act cycle. Skipping the middle part just leads to hiccups like this one. Yes, I have fireworks that are restricted from normal players and yes, that's because I made them. But you think that's all the story?

In a few days there'll be a shop added to sell them. Everybody will be able to use them if they simply pay to buy them. So in reality I'm just allowed to use them in the meantime, which doesn't seem unfair since I spent the time to make the damn things. Besides, what harm am I doing?

TheBlazer2k1 02-25-2002 07:15 PM

finally maybe this will heal the power strugles once they realize its all for nothing

ArchOwl 02-25-2002 07:22 PM

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Current state.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Kaimetsu


I think it's possible that you're talking about me with the fireworks. If so:

Please learn to follow the see->think->act cycle. Skipping the middle part just leads to hiccups like this one. Yes, I have fireworks that are restricted from normal players and yes, that's because I made them. But you think that's all the story?

In a few days there'll be a shop added to sell them. Everybody will be able to use them if they simply pay to buy them. So in reality I'm just allowed to use them in the meantime, which doesn't seem unfair since I spent the time to make the damn things. Besides, what harm am I doing?

how much will they cost?

Kaimetsu 02-25-2002 07:58 PM

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Current state.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ArchOwl


how much will they cost?

Your soul.

That's if they let me decide. They probably won't, so I have no idea what the price'll be.

Neonight 02-25-2002 08:19 PM

Re: Important reorganisation of the staff
 
Quote:

Originally posted by unixmad
I have asked Contego a report on staff activity, nothing more...

To make it clear there is only two high staff it's me and Stefan and only us can hire/fire/ban a staff member, if anyone decide something without our full agreement then he will be fired.

Starting today there is no more Assistant Game Manager or “general” high staff but only groups of staff that have a clear task, each of this groups will have a leader that will report directly to me .

I will make a new organization of the team next week that will enforce this rules.

BirdBird, Contego, Alkaren please calm down, that's not the best time to make a internal war, we have a lot of pressure to finish G2K2 in time and don’t need to waste our time on human relationships

Alkaren was trying to calm down Contengo and so was Birdbird... You say there's an internal war? No I say it's more of a "teacher's pet" thing going on around here...

"To the people who know higher staff goes the spoils."

Warcaptain 02-26-2002 02:46 AM

Re: Re: Important reorganisation of the staff
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Neonight

"To the people who know higher staff goes the spoils."

i agree with this.

unixmad wont even talk to me, aside a rude remark about me being a free server and how I dont diserve help because of it.

but he will do as contego says, and take into serious consideration otherwise.

I totaly support what contego does. I do not always like it, but I support it.

MimicWrath 02-26-2002 07:32 AM

good idea
 
good idea %_%


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