Tigairius, I know you're the PWAdmin and I'm just you know.. a player.

But I'd highly recommend rehiring Jerret, hoping he will rectify his behavior.

Keep him off of the Graal forums, sure. Maybe ban him from everything forum, minus Zodiac and the Scripting forums and see how his behavior goes from there.

But I've never seen such a reaction from players when a Manager is fired, so clearly his negative that you believe outweigh the positives of his administration aren't such a big deal to the majority of the players.

Perhaps he does need a break from Management. Of course, people have always had problems with his attitude, but it looks like something's been up with him lately, as if he just wasn't caring how he behaved.

Either way, sooner or later, I strongly recommend re-instating him.

What happened after PWAs fired Streety?
We've had:
BD > GK > Crono > Dwarfy > Kevin > Fuza/KB

So 6 different management reigns since you fired a stable Manager, who even though I personally disliked a lot, was good for UN and cared for his work. Now you just fired another stable Manager.

Don't want this to get tl;dr, but as a last note.
I agree Jerret's completely in the wrong for not heeding your warnings.
I just hope you guys will work with him, because if you guys let such a good Manager go so easily, you're just hitting the server and game ever harder.

Edit: as a sidenote, this reminds me of American politics lol a few making decisions, much against what the majority want for the "best" of what they administrate.

Tig I can't even reply to your last post because it was obviously an attempt to cover your tracks and deter players from the facts of how you favor your Vimes family lol. The facts have been laid out on the table.

From what I can see you clearly judged his behavior simply off the forums. He was a Manager of Zodiac, not the Forums, it shouldn't matter what he has to say on here.. and if you don't like it feel free to ban him from the forums but don't rip him from the seat of Manager when has done absolutely nothing but made a positive influence in the community. Zodiac obviously had no problem with him and it seems like the only issues with him were the ones you were personally holding against him because of his personality on the forums. You just don't make sense at all.

I'll take Minecraft for example;

If you break rules on the forums and act like a fool they will ban you from the forums, simple as that. Do you see egotistical admin's going to their servers and interfering?


Also, I would love to see the approval from a Cyberjoueur representative that allowed Chris to play on alternative accounts.

It is nice to see Graal operates exactly like it did when I was actively playing. The whole situation is pathetic. An adminstration consisting of (former) players appointed by (active) players or selecting members from an internal process just doesn't work because it seems the administration cannot distance themselves from the in game politics (or soap opera like drama if you prefer). The fact that a 'family' was even allowed to be established within speaks volumes towards the stagnation of the administration and the lack of moderation by Cyberjouers. That in itself should warrant the firings of the PWA.

Also would like to note that a true administration would have stated the firing, reasons if not personal, and would not engage in this crap flinging contest like Tig is doing now.

I don't understand how you guys can just sit here and see the Graal community, including extremely active members of it, horrified and dismayed and not fix the problem.

If there is anything else that needs to be said regarding the matter, please use [email protected] to inform us. We will try to keep the players informed of any changes that are made within the next several days. I will not, however, sit here and allow this thread to turn into some flame fest.