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skillmaster19 12-19-2010 04:52 AM

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Originally Posted by xAndrewx (Post 1616775)
hmm dont get the last part of post D:

Is the gmap similar or way different than the pc version? how big is it? I cant imagine 1000+ players pking on a map like that.

xAndrewx 12-19-2010 04:53 AM

Yes, the map is the same. We're going for a PK approach to begin with, and see how that hits off.

If it is too small, we can always enchance the GMap size without problems :)

skillmaster19 12-19-2010 05:26 AM

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Originally Posted by xAndrewx (Post 1616779)
ahh hehe ^^

Well, the scripting is all new. (Everything, nothing has been taken from Era main server)
Levels have been modified, quite alot actually. Although, they were here to begin with.
Graphics, not really touched the tileset, so that's practically the only thing thats taken from PC Era without modifications.

Alot of the stuff has been added to Classic iPhone. I designed a rotation system for Era iPhone furniture, which is now added to classic (Stefan loved it hehe)

I've really enjoyed doing this. For future Era iPhone staff it's alot easier to add things and implement things. There's practically no lag clientside and serverside. If Era main wants to use the same kind of systems it would be fun I must say hehe :)

LOL sorry fail I started typing before you posted that XD

skillmaster19 12-19-2010 05:28 AM

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Originally Posted by xAndrewx (Post 1616781)
Yes, the map is the same. We're going for a PK approach to begin with, and see how that hits off.

If it is too small, we can always enchance the GMap size without problems :)

If you go to a hospital when you die its gonna be impossible to get anywhere without dieing. And imagine 200 people at a place like speedy pizza :P jobs might not work.

xAndrewx 12-19-2010 05:29 AM

We've already thought of that

We have 3 unstick me places, 3 hospitals, two jobs of each things etc :)

DemonSpawnn 12-19-2010 05:33 AM

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Originally Posted by skillmaster19 (Post 1616783)
If you go to a hospital when you die its gonna be impossible to get anywhere without dieing. And imagine 200 people at a place like speedy pizza :P jobs might not work.

For healing how about a purchasable (Not with Itunes) first aid kit? You could only carry one and it takes time to use, Maybe 10 seconds to use?

skillmaster19 12-19-2010 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by xAndrewx (Post 1616784)
We've already thought of that

We have 3 unstick me places, 3 hospitals, two jobs of each things etc :)

Good, though I still don't think that will be enough. And there should be some kind of new player protection, because with a medium sized Gmap there will probaly be someone in every level, making it super hard for a new player to get places. And everyone will be working; if theres 10 jobs times 2 of each and 700 players working that would be 35 at each place.

skillmaster19 12-19-2010 05:35 AM

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Originally Posted by DemonSpawnn (Post 1616785)
For healing how about a purchasable (Not with Itunes) first aid kit? You could only carry one and it takes time to use, Maybe 10 seconds to use?

I bet it will be food to heal like on Era PC :)

xAndrewx 12-19-2010 05:37 AM

yes it wiil :)

skillmaster19 12-19-2010 05:47 AM

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Originally Posted by xAndrewx (Post 1616788)
yes it wiil :)

well this strategy work if im the first to get Era? buy a cheap knife real quick mass pk the rush of iphone players, then when it gets difficult buy a better weapon and pk more then work get one of the best weapons. By the way will the health system depend on kills? how will it work? If you don't want to spoil everything its ok.

xAndrewx 12-19-2010 05:52 AM

You start with 50hp- we're not too sure on how to gain HP just yet (truth be told, I wouldn't mind a mixture of quests and pking, but I'm not too sure on what would be best, your suggestions? :))

We're right now focusing on the pking factor - it brings alot of fun right now, but we want to add more hehe

skillmaster19 12-19-2010 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by xAndrewx (Post 1616792)
You start with 50hp- we're not too sure on how to gain HP just yet (truth be told, I wouldn't mind a mixture of quests and pking, but I'm not too sure on what would be best, your suggestions? :))

We're right now focusing on the pking factor - it brings alot of fun right now, but we want to add more hehe

The current way on Era is good(with the kills for health), This gives people a reason to pk. Maybe buying armor could also temporarily increase your health. I like the pking idea a lot :) Well maybe have a vote for that when it comes out. If you decide to make it based on kills a while after its out I hope the kills you already have will count.

xAndrewx 12-19-2010 06:13 AM

We will need to see how it plans out :)

skillmaster19 12-19-2010 06:15 AM

Well I guess I should stop asking questions. I'm keeping you from working :O Can't wait to see Era for iPhone, if it takes a while I completely understand that you all have lives. Bye.

MattKan 12-19-2010 06:26 AM

Can you give a little more information on how the gang/guild system will work? Will there be loads and loads of gang houses, or will there just be a few like on Classic iPhone? And will they be managed similar to guilds on Classic iPhone, or is there a different system?

Fulg0reSama 12-19-2010 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by MattKan (Post 1616801)
Can you give a little more information on how the gang/guild system will work? Will there be loads and loads of gang houses, or will there just be a few like on Classic iPhone? And will they be managed similar to guilds on Classic iPhone, or is there a different system?

I imagine something like this.

Gang houses will be constantly Fought for, the strongest will survive and take control of it, If someone doesn't like it they raid their ass and steal it. If theres a parking lot in said house all cars get moved to the pound. Gangs and guilds themselves will probably be the same.

MattKan 12-19-2010 07:29 AM

And MattKan's Valuable Suggestion of the Day:

Create some sort of system that helps control random players logging on and making gangs that have the same name as major Classic iPhone guilds- Maybe you could make some sort of system where you have to be the owner of the guild on classic iphone to make a gang of the same name. Otherwise, some random noob will steal the names and make most of the server mad

DemonSpawnn 12-19-2010 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by MattKan (Post 1616806)
And MattKan's Valuable Suggestion of the Day:

Create some sort of system that helps control random players logging on and making gangs that have the same name as major Classic iPhone guilds- Maybe you could make some sort of system where you have to be the owner of the guild on classic iphone to make a gang of the same name. Otherwise, some random noob will steal the names and make most of the server mad

HEY! I had not thought of that! Hmm time to find the most popular and well known guilds on class iphone, then copy and create them using multiple accounts created by using UDID faker! Thanks for the idea! :D

xAndrewx 12-19-2010 12:06 PM

I can prevent this happening, great suggestion :)

cbk1994 12-19-2010 12:15 PM

Wondering out of pure curiosity how you plan to deal with players who get new iPhones etc? Will you transfer their stats?

xAndrewx 12-19-2010 01:43 PM

Shouldn't be too hard-will come to that when needed @ chris

skillmaster19 12-19-2010 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by xAndrewx (Post 1616829)
Shouldn't be too hard-will come to that when needed @ chris

You sure? There gonna be hundreds of people
Needing it the first week because I'm sure lots of people are getting new iPods for Christmas.(including me, I'm getting a new 4g so I don't lag on Era :D) well, I hope my iPod doesn't lag on era, please add an option to disable certain effects that may lag. Classic iPhone lags if there's more than 10 people on my screen. And I often crash in the main city(and walk at 30% speed) I hope the guns are extremely efficient now because 100 bullets on a screen is a lot for my iPod to handle. Btw does era iPhone have gamecenter? I don't see how your gonna protect guild names without putting days into it or making new players angry. If you make it so you need the guild on classic iPhone people without classic will whine.

Also, do something about door laming. I know it's going to happen. People will spam knifes and shoot a lot at hospitals, enterences togang bases, etc. Make it so you can't get hit for like 0.5-1 second after entering a level, unless you attack. (to prevent entering shooting leaving entering shooting etc) this feature could also be used on PC era too, although I know it will be much more severe on iPhone because of the high playercount. A 2 hour noob protection would be nice, if there isn't I would imagine seeing review like this:
"Sounds fun but..."
" I can't get anywhere without being killed. I want to work a job but everytime I try to get to it but I get killed after exciting the hospitals" I tried a players suggestion to unstick me, although I still keep getting killed on the crowded map. Please fix this developer, this looks like a fun game."

I've seen reviews like this on many apps with pking and advantages over other players(weapons level etc) I hope this won't be a problem

xAndrewx 12-19-2010 06:57 PM

We'll change things as they happen. I can do anything by scripting!!! hehe

Seeya 12-19-2010 09:39 PM

perhaps there could be accounts. easy to create, though.

MattKan 12-19-2010 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Seeya (Post 1616882)
perhaps there could be accounts. easy to create, though.

I think that if more servers are going to start being added to iPhone, there DOES need to be an account system for iPhone.

Edit: I don't know how/if this would work, but maybe you could allow players to sign into Graal iPhone through game center instead of having all the players make a special Graal iPhone Account?

cbk1994 12-19-2010 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by MattKan (Post 1616889)
I think that if more servers are going to start being added to iPhone, there DOES need to be an account system for iPhone.

Edit: I don't know how/if this would work, but maybe you could allow players to sign into Graal iPhone through game center instead of having all the players make a special Graal iPhone Account?

This was how I did it on "my" version of Era iPhone before Stefan shot it down, but it would be difficult for them to implement now, I think.

xAndrewx 12-19-2010 11:02 PM

Or can just easily transfer things over via a script, takes two mins to do :) x

cbk1994 12-19-2010 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by xAndrewx (Post 1616903)
Or can just easily transfer things over via a script, takes two mins to do :) x

Depends how you structure it. If you're using player strings or something like that, I guess it would be.

skillmaster19 12-20-2010 12:58 AM

What time Monday is it coming out? Midnight? Morning? Afternoon? Evening? Night? I hope it doesn't come out in the afternoon central time I won't be able to play :( I wanna be the first player on the server! (not counting devs lol)

MattKan 12-20-2010 02:40 AM

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Originally Posted by skillmaster19 (Post 1616962)
What time Monday is it coming out? Midnight? Morning? Afternoon? Evening? Night? I hope it doesn't come out in the afternoon central time I won't be able to play :( I wanna be the first player on the server! (not counting devs lol)

Tomorrow we'll all moan in misery (or at least you) when Stefan tells us it has been delayed to 2036.

fowlplay4 12-20-2010 02:49 AM

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Originally Posted by MattKan (Post 1616978)
Tomorrow we'll all moan in misery (or at least you) when Stefan tells us it has been delayed to 2036.

You shouldn't lie like that.

We all know this is just a marketing ploy so Stefan can get Best Buy and other big box stores to have a midnight release for it.

12171217 12-20-2010 03:39 AM

As much as I like to pretend I hate anything Graal-related, I'm really looking forward to playing this. I -really- hope it runs well enough so it's enjoyable on a 2G iPod. God knows that Classic iPhone is unbearable and I usually enjoy explowing by myself more than anything else.

skillmaster19 12-20-2010 05:49 AM

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Originally Posted by xAndrewx (Post 1616903)
Or can just easily transfer things over via a script, takes two mins to do :) x

X100 players a day = almost 4 hours a day just working on account transfers.

fowlplay4 12-20-2010 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by skillmaster19 (Post 1616993)
X100 players a day = almost 4 hours a day just working on account transfers.

Assuming 100 players want their account transferred every day which is completely unheard of.

skillmaster19 12-20-2010 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by fowlplay4 (Post 1616994)
Assuming 100 players want their account transferred every day which is completely unheard of.

Thousands of people Thay play Graal are getting new
iPods for Christmas...

DemonSpawnn 12-20-2010 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by skillmaster19 (Post 1616995)
Thousands of people Thay play Graal are getting new
iPods for Christmas...

Then it wouldn't be everyday, it would be 1-3 days.

xAndrewx 12-20-2010 09:57 AM

lol

As again- a script would be better. I could design a system which just copys things over- really wouldn't take a minute to design.

CharlieM 12-20-2010 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by skillmaster19 (Post 1616995)
Thousands of people Thay play Graal are getting new
iPods for Christmas...

there isn't thousands of people that play graal. that is the major flaw in your argument, and there therefore is maybe 20 people who are getting new ipods/iphones for christmas..who the hell would get a new ipod touch anyways

xXziroXx 12-20-2010 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by CharlieM (Post 1617022)
there isn't thousands of people that play graal.

There is when it comes to iPhone players brah.

RegretZ 12-20-2010 06:00 PM

I suppose I should post here already, I've looked at it enough.
Era iPhone looks good I guess.
That's all.


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