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Qwert616 12-12-2001 10:31 AM

wow, I'd have to say lance/spear/pike/etc.

My second choice...I'm not sure

FatherDante 12-12-2001 11:28 AM

Wow, before zhagnal/fighting pick had only two votes (icluding mine) and now, only a bit afer I posted this, it has doubled! I wonder what people like about those? :P Anyone wanna say?
Cutlass are nice. I don't find them very appealing, though. Just seems kind of bland to me!

Lionel-Jonson 12-12-2001 11:45 AM

Halberd
Partizan

_0AfTeRsHoCk0_ 12-12-2001 11:56 AM

I think the Halberds (pikes were good). It's such a simple weapon yet so effective against all sorts of calvary. Just stick your weapon out and your good to go :D

I also like longbows

Er1c 12-12-2001 12:18 PM

Awesome thread! =D

Well I own two blowguns and afew knifes, and those are a lot of fun. I have used throwing knifes and throwing axes before, and those are fun but hard to be accurate with.
The blowgun would be my favorite [b]OLD[b] weapon, even though its not up there... it is very accurate and stealty.


But I would much rather pilot a bomber then run into hostile teritory with a blowgun... :D

FatherDante 12-12-2001 02:26 PM

I think you mean you're an anti-socialite, not an anti-socialist, godSpeed. :D

Blow guns are indeed quite a unique weapon. I find them quite classy, but there's only a certain breed of people who can pull that off, and I'm not one of them. But, anyway, it's not up there because this includes only melee weapons.

ArchOwl 12-12-2001 03:21 PM

dagger

grim_squeaker_x 12-12-2001 07:02 PM

I still say spear.
;P

Admins 12-12-2001 07:41 PM

Yes Spears and bamboo sticks :)

konidias 12-12-2001 07:46 PM

The weapon doesn't make the man. ;)

Instead of learning how to use a weapon, it would be better to learn how to disarm someone that has a weapon and beat them with no weapons.. I also found it funny how a lot of people in this thread speak like they are ninja's or 3rd degree black belts. :p

Taking martial arts classes isn't going to help you much if someone jumps you while walking down the street.. The best kind of martial arts classes are the street smart kind..

Because in a real battle, your enemy isn't going to stand there and let you hit them, and 99.9999% of the time they aren't going to fight you martial arts style. They are going to charge at you and knock the crap out of you. :D

The first person here to tell me what you would do if someone was running at you, was twice your size, and neither of you had weapons, gets 100g :)

(and the area around you is open and flat, and it's daytime, and he is coming at you like he a rhino) ;)

Kumada 12-12-2001 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by konidias
The weapon doesn't make the man. ;)

Instead of learning how to use a weapon, it would be better to learn how to disarm someone that has a weapon and beat them with no weapons.. I also found it funny how a lot of people in this thread speak like they are ninja's or 3rd degree black belts. :p

Taking martial arts classes isn't going to help you much if someone jumps you while walking down the street.. The best kind of martial arts classes are the street smart kind..

Because in a real battle, your enemy isn't going to stand there and let you hit them, and 99.9999% of the time they aren't going to fight you martial arts style. They are going to charge at you and knock the crap out of you. :D

The first person here to tell me what you would do if someone was running at you, was twice your size, and neither of you had weapons, gets 100g :)

(and the area around you is open and flat, and it's daytime, and he is coming at you like he a rhino) ;)

kick him in the nuts and get the **** outta there !
i wins
Whell i guess u can give me 20 ;) the rest is for rent guy

FatherDante 12-12-2001 10:13 PM

Well, gee, Koni, they may talk like they're 3rd dan bujinkan ninja, but you're talking like you're an experienced "Street tough!"

If It were me, I'd run!

Hey, that's cool, Stefan likes Bamboo sticks and spears! You can tell a lot about a man by the weapons that appeal to him, I think. :)

I don't know anymore what I like. The Kusarigama is nice, but I also like many different swords now... oh, the uncertainty. :)

konidias 12-12-2001 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by FatherDante
Well, gee, Koni, they may talk like they're 3rd dan bujinkan ninja, but you're talking like you're an experienced "Street tough!"

If It were me, I'd run!

Hey, that's cool, Stefan likes Bamboo sticks and spears! You can tell a lot about a man by the weapons that appeal to him, I think. :)

I don't know anymore what I like. The Kusarigama is nice, but I also like many different swords now... oh, the uncertainty. :)


I'm not experienced in it, but I do know what would be the best thing to do in that situation.. I'm not super ninja with dozens of weapons and trained to kill :p

all I can do is basically twirling and catching... I can juggle knives pretty good. :)

Sjc2k1 12-13-2001 04:55 AM

i would have to stick with axes as a scot when i see 13th century (scotland) war films. i get an odrenoline rush it is like wow blood shed but a double handed axe is very deadly but i would prefere 1 throwing axe and 1 hand axe.
Then i would put my kilt on and kill some english ( this is after i watch braveheart the film of course even although half the stuff in the film is untrue)

FatherDante 12-13-2001 06:11 AM

hehehe. You've won a place in my heart, "put on my kilt and kill some english." :p
Not that I have anything against englishmen, of course. \8|

12-13-2001 06:15 AM

Answer to Koni's Question: Start running until the aggressor catches up, throw my foot back as a hard as I can into their stomache/crotche, then just start punching them in the face and when they hit the ground, start kicking. After the kicking gets boring, deliver a boot to the throat then run!

I have never tried it to this extent, but I have done most of the things in there!

Sjc2k1 12-13-2001 06:39 AM

dante if you lived in scotland you would probably have been brainwashed by the history classes we had in high school and i know it is daft now a days but scotland is still a very patriototic (sp?) country against our closest neighbours.
kilts are very warm in the winter and cool in the summer and are very dressy for weddings.
one last thing if you like big strong heavy 2 handed swords and you ever come to scotland go to the wallace monument at striling
the sword is about 4-5th long it is massive
and i love axes as one good swipe from a two handed axe can take a head clean of the persons shoulders

Googi 12-13-2001 09:34 AM

I prefer a large nuclear warhead.

12-13-2001 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Googi
I prefer a large nuclear warhead.
then I hope you get Lukemia

Correction 12-13-2001 09:37 AM

wtf m16 wasn't a choice >:(

Googi 12-13-2001 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by TDK_Admin2
then I hope you get Lukemia
Well I won't:D

Faheria_GP2 12-13-2001 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Asuka
GO KATANA!
yes! katana is fun

I also like katanas because that was dreamcast's project-name

Faheria_GP2 12-13-2001 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by manton
I like BIG swords.I dont like the small, silent and deadly stuff,I like the big,loud and head on stuff. =D
hey I thought you died!

FatherDante 12-13-2001 11:43 AM

Of course m16 isn't an option, these are melee weapons.

katana are nice, but I think they're a little too thick and heavy. I like a nice thin shikamidzue blade is more my taste, and very passive when out of use.

ZanderX 12-13-2001 11:50 AM

rapiers and smallswords.

actually, dante, do fencing swords fall under that category?

FatherDante 12-13-2001 11:51 AM

Yes, fencing swords are rapiers/smallswords.

ZanderX 12-13-2001 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by FatherDante
Yes, fencing swords are rapiers/smallswords.
as i thought. :) as far as weapons go, i am more of an expert on early to modern firearms as opposed to old fashioned bladed and blunt weapons. :)

i am very much in love with swordplay, though, and I love to play with sticks and the occasional pole or construction pipe. :)

PlazmaX 12-13-2001 12:16 PM

DAM THIS IS A LONG THREAD!!!!! DAGGERS RULE!!! and you should have a ice sword with crooked ice chunks out the sides dull but deadly!

konidias 12-13-2001 05:06 PM

okay time to answer my question..

if someone charged at you full force you could do one of two things:

1. dodge to the right or left of it and throw up your knee into their stomach, proceeded by your elbow into their back

2. dodge to the right or left and kick them in the middle of the back or back of the knee as they pass

The reason anything else wouldn't work is because when you got a guy coming at you that is twice your size at full speed, punching or kicking him head on isn't going to stop him.. it might hurt him, but it will just piss them off even more as they continue to fall onto you beating you senselessly ;)

If you aren't able to dodge there is only one other move which is the trickiest, and that would be to grab their upper body, roll back, and flip them right over.

It's all about the momentum :)

FatherDante 12-14-2001 07:19 AM

I don't think you really know what you're talking about, Koni. There are hundreds of ways to avert an oncoming opponent, and I don't think you have the authority to say that those are the only two ways possible, and only you know them.

Yes, this is a long thread. But, back to weapons! How about hammers? Those germans made some pretty nice ones, ey? Too bad people don't fight with rapiers anymore! I think nothing would be better!

Spunky2000ca 12-14-2001 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by FatherDante
Too bad people don't fight with rapiers anymore! I think nothing would be better!
Rapiers are the best weapon :)
It is too bad that people don't fight with them.. :(

12-14-2001 09:42 AM

using a huge weapon, I'd probably not just stick to the sword, maybe throw a few headbutts or kicks in :D

FatherDante 03-06-2002 10:27 AM

Kaimetsu, I think the best weapon to modify unarmed martial arts technique is the tonfa!

Now why didn't I think of that before?

I think it's be cool to fight with a kama in one hand and a tonfa in the other! I'd do it, and be "The astute farming samurai."

03-06-2002 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by FatherDante
Kaimetsu, I think the best weapon to modify unarmed martial arts technique is the tonfa!

Now why didn't I think of that before?

I think it's be cool to fight with a kama in one hand and a tonfa in the other! I'd do it, and be "The astute farming samurai."

I'd want to use that big scottish axe polarm that doubles as a plowshare or whatever :))

_0AfTeRsHoCk0_ 03-06-2002 10:31 AM

Do you think weapons from Western society could beat those of Eastern?
Western- Europe
Eastern- Asia

And I am talking about 14th century weapons here, not modern day weapons

03-06-2002 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by _0AfTeRsHoCk0_
Do you think weapons from Western society could beat those of Eastern?
Western- Europe
Eastern- Asia

And I am talking about 14th century weapons here, not modern day weapons

Western would kick ass, unless you are talking about intellectual things ;)

FatherDante 03-06-2002 10:53 AM

The weapons themselves can't win or lose either way. Saying some melee weapons are better than others is a lost cause, I say. Sure, a well crafted broadsword, to give a basic example, may be better than a poorly crafted or poorly balanced one. But even a "bad" balance may serve some purpose, facilitating a different kind of swing. They're apples and oranges, I think. All weapons were good, in their own way.

Besides, Asia and Europe both had so many different kinds of weapons it would be impossible to compare them collectively.

PlazmaX 03-06-2002 10:56 AM

argh if you put chop sticks on it i will vote i would fatally poke them in the eyes and add little blades to the end and shove them right in my enemys throat or shove it in there ear FINISH HIM!!!

FatherDante 03-06-2002 10:59 AM

I, sadly, left off one of the best choices- BIG swords. Lots of people like those. Too bad I couldn't have more than 10 choices!

feivel 03-06-2002 11:48 AM

Yayamajig this thread is alive again, hopefully!
And, Dante posted on the boards, which means he was not abducted by a flying Pizza like i had suspected :P
Anyway the kama is a very great weapon. Dante i suggest you get a book called "Secrets of The Samurai." It is like thicker then the 4th harry potter book (well i needed some comparison:P) and it is an extensive, and i mean very extensive, overview of bujitsu, i.e. martial arts, all of the types of bujitsu, weapons, and things like social status and anything possibly related. LOL theres one page that is filled completely with just different arrowhead designs. Anyway I like the Kama, which was often used by farmers, because during the Tokugawa (sp?) period, the lower peasantry classes were forbidden from carrying a sword,
they often had to innovatively use their tools as weapons.
Anyway.. so i like the Kama..
what else do i like,
well i like virtually all of the weapons utilized by the Samurai but i also especially like the Naganita.


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