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Devil 01-29-2007 08:22 AM

The fact that he told you he really doesn't care about any of your advice, one post to this guy was enough, and he has mentioned this.

It was your repeated attempts of talking crap to him that I find hilarious that you'd waste your time. Alot of people knew this server was going to go down the crapper because times change konidias.

konidias 01-29-2007 09:05 AM

Gee, I'm sorry for trying to help the guy out because I think he's going to make mistakes that he could avoid.

Get off my case already. Most of my posts have been directed to you anyway... Because it's apparent you need to constantly get people to acknowledge you by trying to get under their skin.

I find it hilarious that you spend so much time on these forums when you seem to hate the staff, the players, the forums, and everything about Graal.

If you hated health food would you sit around a health food store all day saying "man I hate this crap". Why don't you go play some game or join some community that you don't hate?

Also, just so you know... I type about as fast as I speak. So typing up these posts is not exactly putting in a lot of effort or wasting a lot of time.

xXziroXx 01-29-2007 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by konidias (Post 1270894)
Gee, I'm sorry for trying to help the guy out because I think he's going to make mistakes that he could avoid.

Get off my case already. Most of my posts have been directed to you anyway... Because it's apparent you need to constantly get people to acknowledge you by trying to get under their skin.

I find it hilarious that you spend so much time on these forums when you seem to hate the staff, the players, the forums, and everything about Graal.

If you hated health food would you sit around a health food store all day saying "man I hate this crap". Why don't you go play some game or join some community that you don't hate?

Also, just so you know... I type about as fast as I speak. So typing up these posts is not exactly putting in a lot of effort or wasting a lot of time.

*high fives* You go girl!

And Crow/Angelu, WHY .. DID .. YOU .. STOP .. WITH .. THE .. SERVER?

Devil 01-29-2007 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by konidias (Post 1270894)
Gee, I'm sorry for trying to help the guy out because I think he's going to make mistakes that he could avoid.

Get off my case already. Most of my posts have been directed to you anyway... Because it's apparent you need to constantly get people to acknowledge you by trying to get under their skin.

I find it hilarious that you spend so much time on these forums when you seem to hate the staff, the players, the forums, and everything about Graal.

If you hated health food would you sit around a health food store all day saying "man I hate this crap". Why don't you go play some game or join some community that you don't hate?

Also, just so you know... I type about as fast as I speak. So typing up these posts is not exactly putting in a lot of effort or wasting a lot of time.


I spend alot of time on the computer during the day, or at home, while at work. I have a project outside of selling houses and dealing with that **** where I would have to use the computer, I take a couple of minutes out of my time for a break from other crap to come post on here. It's not like I wake up, and post all day in my time zone.

Anyway, I'll bury this crap. Point taken.

Crow 01-29-2007 03:13 PM

Wow flame thread. I love flame threads. I cant tell you why exactly Ziro, I'm sorry.
So konidias, if you dont want to hear a "I dont care", why do you still post in this thread? What do you want to here? That we will give away the graphics or something else of the Server? We wont.

Edit: Btw, theres no language gap, I'm just too lazy to read so much text, I'm sorry for this @ that point :P

konidias 01-29-2007 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crow (Post 1270924)
What do you want to here? That we will give away the graphics or something else of the Server? We wont.

Wow, you just don't get it. Nevermind.

All I was trying to do was get my advice in your head where you could accept it and say "thanks for the advice" regardless of whether or not you'll use it, but it's clear to see that there is this enormous brick wall in the way.

There's no reason to bother now though, it's apparent that you know what's best and that you never need advice.

Crow 01-29-2007 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by konidias (Post 1270999)
Wow, you just don't get it. Nevermind.

All I was trying to do was get my advice in your head where you could accept it and say "thanks for the advice" regardless of whether or not you'll use it, but it's clear to see that there is this enormous brick wall in the way.

There's no reason to bother now though, it's apparent that you know what's best and that you never need advice.

I dont need your advice.

Chandler 01-29-2007 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crow (Post 1271022)
I dont need your advice.

That's blatantly rude!
Always take advice, choose to use it or not-- I don't care; just don't choose to not accept it.

Crow 01-29-2007 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chandler (Post 1271024)
That's blatantly rude!
Always take advice, choose to use it or not-- I don't care; just don't choose to not accept it.

If you like this answer better...
I dont need your advice @ konidias.
Happy now?-_-

Ninja Edit: Mkay konidias, I just read all your replys again, slowly.
I said I dont care what you are telling my, whats wrong with that. You asked me why I quit and started working on another project. Why not finish Esteria first? Oh of course...hey, btw, my mother is dying right now, but I have to finish this video game first!
Are you dumb?
You also gave me "advice" by saying I should stay with Graal because here I got the tools I need. How could you know I only got them at Graal? You dont even know how many out there would help me with Esteria offline. I also got the experience to code my own stuff if I need it. Not only Stefan can do such things.

True, you didnt say I was a bad manager, but you said I would be stubborn. Why? I kinda think you are.

And then, I was kind of surprised of this, theres no damn advice in your posts. So wheres your advice? You told me you saw it coming and also told me I would waste a year until I know I dont have the experience to make my own offline project.
Where is your damn advice?
Theres no ****in advice, you just said that I am doing the wrong thing, and didnt even tell me the exact reasons for it. Hey, cool advice, someone I dont even know irl should know whats right and whats not, I will continue Esteria as a Graal server...

Chandler 01-29-2007 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crow (Post 1271035)
If you like this answer better...
I dont need your advice @ konidias.
Happy now?-_-

No, that's not acceptable at all. You'll learn that in life, it's a virtue to listen to another person. It's been a pleasure.

xXziroXx 01-30-2007 12:51 AM

Crow, if its partially because lack of staff you know I offered to script for you guys.. And sorry to hear about your mom.

konidias 01-30-2007 02:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crow (Post 1271035)
And then, I was kind of surprised of this, theres no damn advice in your posts. So wheres your advice? You told me you saw it coming and also told me I would waste a year until I know I dont have the experience to make my own offline project.
Where is your damn advice?
Theres no ****in advice, you just said that I am doing the wrong thing, and didnt even tell me the exact reasons for it. Hey, cool advice, someone I dont even know irl should know whats right and whats not, I will continue Esteria as a Graal server...

I advised you that giving up on a playerworld with so much progress made already is a bad idea just to start another big project. That's advice. I know... it's a shocker.

What does not having to know me IRL have to do with anything? So you never take advice from people you don't know IRL? So I guess when you read rules or advice in books, you don't pay any attention to them because you've never personally met the authors... That makes a lot of sense. That's a poor excuse for not wanting to accept my advice.

Notice I said accept, not use. Huge difference.

Crow 01-30-2007 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xXziroXx (Post 1271099)
Crow, if its partially because lack of staff you know I offered to script for you guys.. And sorry to hear about your mom.

The part with my mum was an example, and no its not because of the lack of staff, we could have finished the server.

Konidias, fine. I accept your advice, I understand what you mean, but why are you even posting this? I wont get back into this project for the next few months, doesnt matter what you are telling me. Theres another project with a higher priority, as I already told you. We probably will finish or atleast try to finish this project, but most likely it wont be Graal based anymore.

NicoX 05-13-2007 09:35 PM

Hello everybody,
I am back now.

I just read that thread and saw the progress on Esteria
It looks really great
Shakram and Crow did a great job when I was inactive

But yeah Esteria is down because we have no active Staff on it to help out.
So if we have had more Staff with enough experience we could finish the Server.... Well I decided to start the Server again if I will find more "active!" Staff to work on Esteria so we can get more progress on it and finish this Project.
The Server has great Levels and Graphics but yeah we lack on NPCs and a complete system so we just need help and ppl who are willing to work there fulltime.

If you are interested just PM me on use AIM
NicoXGraal

Thanks to all of you and thanks to your critism, too.

Nico
(Owner of Esteria)

Crow 05-13-2007 09:37 PM

Thanx for the compliment :P I will be active again w00t.

Infernix 05-13-2007 11:26 PM

......lol well atleast you got it started again.

Shakram 05-14-2007 04:15 AM

without me XD
i have no time for esteria at the moment :O

NicoX 05-14-2007 10:06 AM

Well I will "just" start it when people are willing to help ;) I dont want to lose time and waste my money for an inactive server hehe

Moonite 05-14-2007 11:57 AM

offline? :(

NicoX 05-14-2007 04:54 PM

Yeah unfortunately..

NicoX 05-16-2007 11:11 PM

Esteria is back online
I am just waiting for backups from Stefan
I hope I will get them so I can continue my Project :) If you want to help you can Forum PM me or just contact me in AIM NicoXGraal

:) We are looking for Developers, of course.

Thanks

Nico

Switch 05-17-2007 11:27 PM

Yeah right now I'm the 'Owner' of the SERVER, Nico is the Project Manager, so he handles most of the stuff. I'll still forward your messages onto Nico or hire you myself, just AIM (sportski0703) or email ([email protected]) me.

BTW Stefan, GIVE US BACKUPS >=D

killerogue 05-17-2007 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Switch (Post 1308839)
Yeah right now I'm the 'Owner' of the SERVER, Nico is the Project Manager, so he handles most of the stuff. I'll still forward your messages onto Nico or hire you myself, just AIM (sportski0703) or email ([email protected]) me.

BTW Stefan, GIVE US BACKUPS >=D

Just have Nico message me when everything's set up for me to start scripting.

Switch 05-17-2007 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by killerogue (Post 1308843)
Just have Nico message me when everything's set up for me to start scripting.

Ummmmmmmm m'kay... where you a scripter before on there??

Chompy 05-17-2007 11:57 PM

When did Switch become owner of Esteria?
Wild guess, he knows nothing about Esteria :(

But good luck Nico

Switch 05-18-2007 12:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chompy (Post 1308850)
When did Switch become owner of Esteria?
Wild guess, he knows nothing about Esteria :(

True

I became owner when Nico needed a host (me, if you're smart you can guess)... But I can still do all the stuff you know me for doing :asleep:

killerogue 05-18-2007 12:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Switch (Post 1308851)
But I can still do all the stuff you know me for doing :asleep:

Which is nothing at all?

And no, I wasn't a scripter there before. I originally did graphics, on several occasions. And it really isn't much your concern about my past experiences with Esteria. What's most important is the now.

Chompy 05-18-2007 12:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Switch (Post 1308851)
True

I became owner when Nico needed a host (me, if you're smart you can guess)... But I can still do all the stuff you know me for doing :asleep:

Well, it would be nice if you said you were the Host, not the Owner :o
Because I'll always remember Nico as the Owner :)

Crow 05-18-2007 12:10 AM

Nico owns the project, Switch owns the server, and everything is alright :P

Chompy 05-18-2007 12:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crow (Post 1308856)
Nico owns the project, Switch owns the server, and everything is alright :P

I remember you working on Esteria :p
You had quite nice ideas, but they never made public :(


Also; I did script on Esteria way back (when it was created)..
I miss old Esteria :(
Angelu/Shakram, the tileset is still just amazing

Crow 05-18-2007 12:16 AM

Angelu had most of the ideas, and I was head scripter before it went down and will probably be again ;D

Chompy 05-18-2007 12:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crow (Post 1308860)
Angelu had most of the ideas, and I was head scripter before it went down and will probably be again ;D

:D
(Oh, and I remember the custom(?) made jump-down cliffs :p)

killerogue 05-18-2007 12:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crow (Post 1308860)
Angelu had most of the ideas, and I was head scripter before it went down and will probably be again ;D

Not if I have squat to say about it. ;)

jk Crow pwnts me :[ but Stan will still make good scripts

Chompy 05-18-2007 12:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by killerogue (Post 1308862)
but Stan will still make good scripts

;) yep

Oh, I would be interested in helping out scripting if you guys need some scripters

Crow 05-18-2007 12:23 AM

Haha Stan I am not that sure if I would 'own' you :p
Chompy, sure! Would be cool if you could help us out a bit :)

Chompy 05-18-2007 12:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crow (Post 1308866)
Haha Stan I am not that sure if I would 'own' you :p
Chompy, sure! Would be cool if you could help us out a bit :)

Great :p
Can't wait to start :)

Switch 05-18-2007 12:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by killerogue (Post 1308854)
Which is nothing at all?

And no, I wasn't a scripter there before. I originally did graphics, on several occasions. And it really isn't much your concern about my past experiences with Esteria. What's most important is the now.

Yes, it is my concern. And do you mean "nothing at all?" to be "Ganis, Levels, basic graphics"?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chompy (Post 1308855)
Well, it would be nice if you said you were the Host, not the Owner :o
Because I'll always remember Nico as the Owner :)

Owner of server, duh :p
Nico is Project Manager (of this one). Project Manager handles everything :asleep:

killerogue 05-18-2007 12:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chompy (Post 1308868)
Great :p
Can't wait to start :)

Hands of the mudlib sucker! It's mine ;o

Chompy 05-18-2007 12:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Switch (Post 1308871)
Owner of server, duh :p
Nico is Project Manager (of this one). Project Manager handles everything :asleep:

But you signature says owner of Esteria :asleep:

Anyway, yay; Esteria is soon back!


Quote:

Originally Posted by killerogue (Post 1308872)
Hands of the mudlib sucker! It's mine ;o

sure for me :)

Switch 05-18-2007 12:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chompy (Post 1308874)
But you signature says owner of Esteria :asleep:

My signature says many things :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
LOL

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chompy
Anyway, yay; Esteria is soon back!

If Stefan answers me and Nico's Forum PMs and tickets xD


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