Well....Ive seen your levels and all that jazz and I have to say they arnt what were seeing in this day of age when it comes to quality but they have a good setup and they tiles help abit to.

But how about you guys stop showing off cliffs and show me somthing that might take alittle scripting lol.

lol?

http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/8260/untitledao5.png

I already said that I gotta stop posting new things so there's a pic.

Hillarious, although, im pretty sure he ment that you should post some scripted stuff in-game.

Most of the script content is incompleted (what is complete is for the most part, part of a bigger project that is in itself incomplete) and in no shape to be shown off right now (as if a screen shot can show any part of a script other than the gani or GUI menu that would be used, and that could simply be faked and said to be completed). I will say the systems are pretty well thought out, and between Mike being a decently fast coder for some of the more simple stuff and Riot being an EXTREMELY talented coder (I'd say one of, if not the best on Graal) for the more complicated stuff the content of the server will be very nice when complete. Also Tupper is apparantly coming back to work, and he is another pretty talented scripter, and once he has his bearings back on what to do I'm sure that the content will start to be completed even quicker.

Even if the content was fully done, they probably wouldn't be showing it off on here, if you haven't noticed the screen shots that are being shown off are about 1/8 of a level as to not spoil the complete look of the server for its release, I doubt that they'd think it would be a good idea to show off the systems before its release which is probably going to be the big-draw of the server.

I would like to say that the spar arena is AMAZING, and for those Graalians that log on to do nothing but spar will like it very much. I'm unclear if they are going to impliment some sort of ranking structure like UN did, but the arena itself is very very nice.

That is all.

thats what I thought.....o and a spar arena is a spar arena. Just gotta be able to run around and swing your sword. Please dont make it all complicated.

Uhmm...If spar arena's didn't have systems, then there would still be people pming GP's on UN everyday saying "I got spar pked".

I'm also talking about eye candy in the level that was scripted out (images and idea created by Sandz <3 scripts done by Mike <3 and refined by Misc <3). I won't say what because I'm not authorized to give out details of any systems on the server, no matter how trivial they are. The spars are still exactly the same, you say start, and then you fight one on one with somebody using your sword, but there is a new innovative system inside of the spar arena that everyone who has seen it has said was amazing.

I don't understand why you keep looking for a reason to put the developmental work down, it seems to me like you're just trying to be an *******.

Im not trying to put development work down. But unlike other idiots, I know how things go on development servers and I know how things were going on delteria. And they always exagerate when they post on graal fourms.

And when I say they, Im talkin about every single server on graal.

We do it big.



EDIT -
And fyi I am Valikorlian by... "graalian birth" (for lack of a better expression), not Delterian. I'm currently on a residential visa.

you know if you wanted to give me a birthday present you could've at least bumped this thread for me >:O

thanks yall...

How would you know Xziro isn't illiterate at swedish?

*shrug* we have a Swedish LAT...

btw Xziro I'm still waiting for that one thing you said you'd have done by the Monday you got back from whatever trip you were on.

I quit classic and delteria dev, im only gonna be working on babylon and when clash needs me, new val.

i'm kind of done LATing so much now :/

lol not you man

but hey its cool though

If you need the plans I had for the al jadim map or whatever it was called, I can send it. All I really did was make that oasis thing and re-do that long riving going from the oasis down to the ocean. It's not much but I guess I did the dirty work for you guys. :)

Majibob is the guy you'll wanna PM about that :pluffy:

Is there an estimated date for the new delteria?

I hear people say Summer 2007, but that is only assuming that absolutely nobody comes to help us... and when I look at the past staff present from when I started this thread and the current staff as I post this, we don't have anybody new to Delteria on our team (and don't say Mykel because he's been around for a long time). I mean, everybody here has been saying how great everything is -- but this is the result of a long time of work.

We're constantly doing shit but nobody apparently is helping. Killerogue decides that he's gonna be grounded for the next 6 months, Crono decides to focus on Babylon, Tom goes to G2k1, the list goes on (not that there's anything wrong with these people or they're decisions of course).

My point is don't expect a final result soon if nobody actually responds when I call you out (which is the entire purpose of this thread, remember?).

Sorry bout that. But when I joined Delteria Dev it was when Malinko was still manager and he had fired me. I assumed he'd never leave so I joined you guys. Ever since I left I started focusing on Babylon. :[

Well, Tom wasn't a huge loss. Don't get me wrong, he makes amazing GFX, but with Maji and KC, there hasn't been any hold up as far as GFX go. The part that is taking the longest is definitely levels and scripting. Levels are coming slowly, and I honestly don't know what all still needs to be worked on (system wise) with scripting, but those are definitely the most needed areas.

When i was hired i never actually made it to the Dev server itself, i spoke to a few staff and then i wasnt sure what to do next :P

w/e man...



Anyway we still need help. Inquire within.
(Its the least you could do after we owned this board/forum/'lo que sea' up... an incy wincy little bit)

If you are a demented, no-life, internet/graal nerd/freak then the feeling that you are experiencing right now after looking at the above picture is better than **********.... damn, maybe I should go into photography.

Really though, its a part of the Abiline Forest which is the other half of the "City Above the Trees" which I mentioned in an earlier post (city is above the canopy, and the image above is part of what is under the canopy). It was completed/made a long while ago and after I saw this thread's position on the 1st page (3rd to last??? WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE OMJESUS) I decided to bump and post a new screenshot.

Also, based on the activity of this thread recently, with any luck I'll be able to get away with... quintuple (?) posting here.




edit -- also, yes you can walk behind the tree bark.


another edit - We are still hiring in all departments to those willing to help and not just get on RC and ask for access to run around the server and then never show up again.

You know what we can really go for right now? Some LATs.

I'd like to point out that the bark tiles on the trees aren't complete. Personally I think it looks ugly as crap right now, but it's just space filler until MBD has time to make it beutiful.

And yes, we are in need of LAT's...go to the delteria forums (forums.delteria.com) and PM Majibob to apply, or just post in this thread and Zephyr will definately get someone to give you a tryout asap.

Yeah I'm your go-to guy here.



Can you make levels? Contact me.
Can you script? For Christ sakes, please help me.
Can you gani? Hey there, how're you doing?
Do you get pissed off when someone tells you that your idea is stupid? Then you better stay away.

Now that's not accurate, we are kinda open minded...We're just also perfectionists and don't want actual stupid ideas on the server. If you have a good idea we'll definately take it. Take the project you're working on with KC for example, she didn't think it would go nearly as far as its going to go.

Yeah -- I was just reflecting the Delterian attitude...

[/baaaaackpedaaaalll]

I looked back in the thread and saw the picture of the islands that were being worked on and all I can say is AWESOME.

It's like actual terrain!

From first hand experience (I've seen a lot of it) I can safely say New Delteria has the sexiest city to be seen on Graal.

Thankee sai. You're gonna be really happy when it comes out, Cloven (no I don't mean Misc, yes Cloven is back...So is Misc btw) and Tiamat are getting all anal and redoing levels on Kaljun that they deemed not good enough which amazes me because honestly the levels on that island were better than anything I've seen on any public server out right now.

Systems are also the *****, but I can't give out spoilers, we'll all just have to wait. :)

I'll trust what Crono says, however; the snapshot snippets you're releasing haven't got any hype in my opinion.

You need to see and walk around the actual city, it's awesome.

@ Mr.Evil Within, I'd have kept working but im just too damn lazy.

Well...

I would repeat what I said in an earlier post in order to help motivate you but Darlene red carded me for it so instead I'll just say: please don't be lazy :-/

Idling on dev and watching suo and kc flirt is fun so why don't you do that. Most of us are either on call, posting on the forums, or just flat out afk at any given point in time.

We already know your all be lazy, thats of no surprise from a graal development team. We just care if you get it done lol.

The Castle setups are pretty Nice but the actual outside leveling type things were pretty bad...other than what I made(outside levels)....and Im not trying to be ****y. The setup of the OW was quite nice though.

so yeah thanks for the support

Lol your welcome, you can always expect me to be upfront with anyone around these forums.

Uhm....You didn't make anything that is on the new overworld, when you worked on Delteria we were doing a completely different project, when you were rehired during this project you made absolutely squat aside from complaining that you didn't have enough rights and saying that you wouldn't work unless you were given full levels ftp...Also I don't think you were ever given access to the server, meaning I'm almost 100% sure that you haven't seen anything other than screen shots...I really don't care about negative opinions, but I kinda rather peope give honest opinions, meaning they don't talk out of their asses and say some bull like "Everything other than what I made looks like crap" especially when they haven't even contributed to the project.

Btw, the levels that you did make for Delteria on the previous OW were nothing special, in fact I went onto that overworld to see if I could grab some stuff to use as filler on one of the empty islands and everything you did just looked so...ordinary. I dunno why you're so full of yourself, you are a pretty talented LAT, but you're nowhere near the caliber of someone who can talk down as much as you do.

Come on now =/, don't make up complete and total BS. I didn't have rights to even 1 folder and I was fully ready to work on your server considering Crono was there. I have never worked on a server and not at least try to create something for them. Unlike most developers when I say I'm going to do something I at least make some effort into doing it. When I say I'm going to do something I gotta at least try, or I'm just letting myself down.

O and Your acting like I insulted you all personally when truth is I insulted not only myself but every single graal developer. I call everyone lazy because of the lack of quality development Graal has currently, and I stick by it.

O and btw, unless you guys have jumped to another project once again in the last maybe 1month in 1/2 then ive seen every bit of work you've done level wise. Tai was kind enough awhile ago to let me see the work you all have done.

And btw, I'm honest and I say this by the heart. I don't think anything on Delteria Dev is at all impressive OTHER than those castle designs. O and Tai and I believe someone else have let me take a full look at all the level development. Unless you have something new in the last month in 1/2 Ive seen it all. And ya know hate me for saying what I have, but ya know I'm never going to sit down and lie about what I think. Its just my opinion

I love your tileset, I love those castle, I just dont like everything else.

(In my 2nd to last post I called your castle designs lame and that was a complete eff up when I typing, its now fixed)

It's been a little more than a month since you've been there but there is stuff that you haven't seen that was around during the time you were working there, i.e. the entirety of Abiline island.

Apparantly others view your opinion of the outside levels on Kaljun, and they are being redone. I said in my last post that I don't care about negative opinions but what you said was a little bit off from an "honest opinion" in my point of view. You said that every outside level aside from what you did looks terrible, one problem I had with that is that you have only seen one of the two finished islands, that being the island that I stated only 3 posts prior to yours as the one that is being almost completely redone by Cloven. There's also the fact that there isn't one level on the overworld that you have done, so you are basically giving yourself praise for work that doesn't exist.

Like I said, I don't care if you dislike the levels, but don't go around saying that you've made contributions to the server that are better than anything else on there if you haven't done anything at all. Your opinion is your opinion, that can't be changed, but facts still remain facts, and one fact is that nothing you've done on Delteria Dev looks all that impressive because you have not done anything on Delteria Dev. I have no doubt that you'd be able to work well with the tileset, you're one of the first LAT's to utilize the tileset, and like I've said many times before you are pretty damn talented, but the fact is that the only work you've done with it is on a previous project, and was not all too impressive, not because of a lack of skill from you, but mainly because at that point in time the tileset was still incomplete.

Basically I'm just trying to say have your own opinion if you want to, you definately have a right to them as anybody else does, but don't try and give yourself praise over other developers for work that doesn't exist.

I also 100% agree with your statement that all Graal Dev staff are lazy.