How does an IP range being secure matter? You could request the IP range to be changed and therefore log online to your RemoteControl.

I don't get why people even registered to that site. I think this offical page is good enough for everything. You can post pictures and tell us ur opinions... This site has all that velox promised you on his one..

I guess people liked the way it was presented, vs. the forums.

aye finally got unbanned last night. I got my money back today also! :)

I signed up as it seemed like a neat site and as always just looking for a nice graalian community. It also presented things this site does not and was controlled by a player and in some ways the people that signed up there. The links to PW sites and screenshots reviews were all a neat touch.

Moderation wasn't bezerk (YOU COULD SAY BAD WORDS!)

All around fun, and no the graal online website doesn't have the features that graalians.com had.

What Velox did was horrible yes, but let's realize that people signed up for a website with the SAME password that their e-mail had, NEVER EVER DO THAT.

Or even if you do, don't let a habit make you accidently try to login with the same password as your email >_<.

I dunno what to talk about GK O.o XD that's why i didn't even have a look on that site hehe

Likewise. However, I still have yet to recieve my money :rolleyes:

PayPal is slow as ****.

Ah yes, i keep thinking all accounts require a Secure IP to logon the client like Admin-Playerworld accounts, although they do still have messengers to contact other Staff. x_x

To all of those who told me I was wrong about their email being hacked. Hi!

It'd be funny if he went to jail on his birthday.

Well, it hasn't been hacked, more like phished. Or just stolen.

Agreed!


I prefer the term jacked. ;)

Fry, eplaining phishing to people that are already freaked by their items going missing is just too much of a pain. I'd rather say "hacked" because that's the common vocabulary.

FYI
Common != Right.

Hacked.

Here is a new problem... I to the best of my knowledge have never been to graalian.com. I didnt sign up for any website being i didnt go... But Stefan if you get a chance could i talk to you?

You didnt state your problem exactly, but if you account password was changed without your knowledge and you have never been to www.graalians.com this thread doesn't relate to you, and you should submit a ticket to the Support Center and it will be taken care of.

Seriously....You people call this scandal "hacking"? He took some good guesses on people's E-mail passwords; that's it really.

Eh...People should know by now that there is no such thing as selflessness anymore. That should be part of the "common sense factor" when deciding whether or not to sign up for a site like this. Everything has a catch, this website had a more disguised one.

Edit: Not to say that it wasn't wrong, stupid, foolish, selfish, and all that jazz, I just think you're giving him more credit than he's worth on the "hacking" thing.

That's actually what I said, I would call this scandal a 'Lammer action'.

You're a little late buddy.

:\ hm...velox...that velox from Era? omg...and i thought he is nice o_o
i hope he didnt steal my PW in another way o.o

greetings, Elk

Probably not relevant anymore but I got my money back.

Awesome Tupper.

Smart but wrong.

Glad you did too.

Even thought what he did was obviously wrong, I have to give him props for a great social engineering scam. It demonstrates how easily one can be taking for as a fool on the net. When I first heard about it I coulnd't help but laugh, and hope I was smart enough to use a different password. Even I said, "Oh <censored>", and scrambled around checking my accounts. Luckly I do recall using a unique pass on his site. This sort of thing happens to the best of us. Hope everyone learned from the experience.

everythings over, you all fell for velox's scam and join these retarded graal communities, if i want to talk about graal, id do it at the forums, same people. Just stop joining these dumb un-official graal sites, i only thought graalpeople was good. Most retarded thing you people could do, go to a unoffical graal site to talk about graal when it can be talked about here. This reminds me of a time me and my brother did a criminal offence because i had acess to this guys cpanel because i worked on his forum, then my brother wiped his whole host lol because the guy was a *******.

Except it's actually pretty safe to use other sites as long as you don't use duplicate passwords.

I said why do people go to these dumb graal sites. They are pretty pointless. OMG GUIDES! Who does not know how to do things in a server and server review? There is already enough people complaining about each pw here. And if your talking about the host, what he did really was an offense.

Jesus you're right, there could never be anything worse than signing up for a site using the same password as your e-mail and conversing about an online game known as graal. Screw war when you have this!

I think you're a little hyped up, cool down fella.

Really dont tell me what im doing, that pisses me off, id literally pimpslap you in real life if you ever told me that. What i was saying is that why go to forums about graal when youre at one right now. you need to read my last post a couple times to actually analyze it.

Did you actually visit the site? It wasnt a forum. Its already been stated it had things that the graal forums and site do not possess. Graal is a very social game a lot of people like to meet the other players and know more about them.

Seriously, you need to calm down and stop threatening people (which is against the forum rules anyway).
The website, as has been said, wasn't a forum. It was a well set up website with useful info from what I remember.

People just need to use their heads when signing up on a website such as this, or anything else really....never use duplicate passwords, it is always a bad idea....

Moonie telling people to use their heads? haha.

Was that to me? And yes i saw that site, i didnt like it so i didnt bother to sign up. And that wasnt my only point about the forum things, its about joining some graal sites, you wont see what i see in them. That site had peoples profile and about them. Wow id like to know about people on graal and become their bestest buddys

Darlene it wasnt a threat, need to see some logic in there. You dont even know what a pimpslap is haha.And again, dont tell me what im doing, please, you have no right to say that, especially you coming with false accusations. You been getting on my nerves lately, and plus i wasnt even hyped up, im just suprised how many people want to converse about graal and know other people when they can do that on servers or on the forums.

Yeah apperently I need to analyze something that has absolutely no point to it.

Who the hell uses the phrase pimpslap?

Okay stop and think for a second you.

You are asking why people want to converse about an online game that you are apart of. YOU ARE CONVERSING ABOUT THE GAME IN EVERY SINGLE POST ON THIS FORUM AND IT'S NOT IN THE GRAAL CLIENT.

Everything you have said is illogical, no points at all except "YOU R RETARDED FOR SIGNING UP FOR SOMETHING." It's your own opinion and you are entitled to hate anything you want but don't come around here saying people are retarded for joining communities that you are apart of and contribute to. Anyone who is logical wouldn't use a dumb phrase like pimpslap in a so called argument.

Provide true points and we will provide answers.

Oh by the way the all the bold statements in the second quoted message by you are all from YOUR OWN PERSPECTIVE OF THE SITUATION.

I think my quotes and analyzing your post like you request is a clear indication that I read your post.

You completely ignored everything I said and slapped the word idiot at the end, congratulations.

DId you not read my posts? I said why converse about it somewhere else when you got it here. And gangsters say pimpslap idiot.

I wasn't telling you what you are doing, I was replying to your post, and I also made no false accusations...

Anyway, why do you think it is so bad for people to actually like other websites that were made for Graal?
I actually think they are very interesting, especially when you see all the different varieties that people come up with.

When you meet all kinds of different people from all over the world, you aren't curious to learn more about them? Even if you aren't, there are people who are curious, and some people feel better speaking out in other ways besides on Graal.

While you might not, other people might. Please do not make the silly assumption that everyone else is like you.

You're saying she has no right to speculate about the content of your post? That's funny. It's also horribly, horribly incorrect.