All of them, I guess.

I'm with 'TIKI on this one.

Also, Kamuii, I think deleting Sarma is pretty stupid. Just take away the 59k and give THT the bomy back. :x

Edit: Unless, of course, the money has already been used up or something. If that's the case I guess your solution is better. But I think I better solution would be to auction it out.

I could always give it back to TrueHeaT and take the 59k out of the Karakaze funds.

But I like the idea of a shrine and keeping Sarma as the rarest bomy better.

That's not what I meant.
He is the only one who thinks this name is offensive, and Penga is just a slang word in Lithuanian, not a "real" word x_X
Also, many people complained to him about SS and SD, and I mean MANY, but he didn't do anything, but when something disturbs only him he deletes it.
He was rude to me and to the other people who pmed him about those guilds, and to many others as well, just read the pm history I posted.
Also what's the use og pming his superior, no one would ever respond.

So, therefore calling someone a "giant wang" on Graal is okay because it is slang?

:x If I give it back to TrueHeaT, he will sell it to Torankusu. THAT IS BAD.

But, you see. He put the money into the Karakaze Troupe funds... :\

Why can't Torankusu have it?

Just take the money from the Karakaze fund, before they spend any of it. :)

(Not trying to tell you what to do, just giving you my thoughts. ;))

how are bomies rarer than one another..
there is one of each
and they all have the same rarity
its what people are willing to pay

Because Torankusu is evil. ;(

Sarma's the only bomy without a recolor. :(

The slang words are the most offensive of all. Almost every swear word is slang - I wouldn't consider s**t or f**k to be "real" words.

Better than him not deleting anything at all. What did SS and SD stand for?

No ruder than was warranted. I and many others would probably have done worse.

I'm sure Kamuii would.

I'm not Tiki's superior, though. Tiki's actually higher than me, he's global and I'm not. :\

Oh, I didn't see that message.

Okay, he is evil.

Darnit, good point. Well, Nemesis would probably be contactable.

nem usually responds when he's on graal
usually on npulse

He's also on ICQ.
Although he is in away status 98% of the time.

However it's offensive only to him, not to anyone alse.

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Better than him not deleting anything at all. What did SS and SD stand for?.

The SS was the head organization of the ****s, SD was a department in the SS.

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No ruder than was warranted. I and many others would probably have done worse..

Actually I never seen an admin that was rude like him \=

'Tiki (Guild Admin) (5/15/2002 3:48:41 PM):
get over it
Spurx Vengeance (5/15/2002 3:47:54 PM):
ss and sd r offincive names and should be deleted

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You (7/6/2002 12:05:40 AM):

hey
why was Penga deleted?

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Opposite (7/6/2002 12:05:57 AM):

random reasons

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You (7/6/2002 12:06:12 AM):

=| tell me the reason please

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Opposite (7/6/2002 12:06:28 AM):

because i dont like the way you chew your food

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You (7/6/2002 12:07:02 AM):

.. tell me

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Opposite (7/6/2002 12:07:36 AM):

wait wait, i think i got this one
"sklfhlgDsKgh"

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i used to talk to him on ICQ and yea he has away messages alot
but he also has aim
and he is usually on AIM

only person you can contact. tiki won't deal with me :/

Why does he get the right to choose? =\

he shouldn't be able to
alkaren is his superior
he has to listen to him whether he likes it or not

You pick and choose your battles. Some things are just not worth it.

So it actually gives him to right to act like that..

No it doesn't, but I am not going to force him to report to me directly. He reports to nemesis, whihc means he is reporting to one of us, so I'm not going to battle with him over it.

I don't want sarma.

Him, and the population of Lithuania. Again, I make the point that you ignored. Do Lithuanians deserve less protection than Americans?

Well then they should've been deleted. But that situation is completely irrelevant to this one and should be handled separately.

Those weren't rude as much as they were dismissive. What was your relation to this guild?

I would'nt mind =)

No, but no one alse complained.

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Well then they should've been deleted. But that situation is completely irrelevant to this one and should be handled separately.]

Well he deleted a guild he dislikes although no one complain, and he wouldn't delete guilds that many complained about.

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Those weren't rude as much as they were dismissive. What was your relation to this guild?

I created the guild x_X

If someone makes a guild called f**k, he should wait for someone to complain before deleting it? If someone makes one called "giant wangs" in English, he should wait for someone to complain before deleting it?

Still, separate issues. If you wanna talk about whether or not he was right to let SS and SD go then go ahead, but it's not part of this debate.

Then perhaps he suspects that you named the guild as such with full knowledge that it was offensive. If that were the case then his rudeness would be fully warranted.

It wasn't in english, he is the only one who thought it is offensive, no one alse complain, and the guild existed for months!

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Still, separate issues. If you wanna talk about whether or not he was right to let SS and SD go then go ahead, but it's not part of this debate.

Not separate issues. He should be doing his job for the other players, not for himself.

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Then perhaps he suspects that you named the guild as such with full knowledge that it was offensive. If that were the case then his rudeness would be fully warranted.

Sure, he suspected that I know Lithuanian x_X, he was rude to other people as well, so this is not the reason.

Go Kaiametsu!
I totaly agree with you, though, I think Tiki handled this a bit... wrong, he had every right to deleat the guild.

You're not listening, or you don't understand. It wasn't in English. So? It would've been offensive to Lithuanians. Are you saying that Lithuanians don't deserve the same protection from offense as Americans?

They're separate incidents so they're separate issues. The two aren't directly related.

Other people in the guild, who would've also known what the guild means?

No, but he seems to be the only one x_X, so it's harming only one person. It shouldn't be hard to find an offensive meaning to half of the guilds in other languages that I doubt anyone knows =\

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They're separate incidents so they're separate issues. The two aren't directly related.

Not directly, but I'm talking about the way Tiki handles the guilds =\

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Other people in the guild, who would've also known what the guild means?

Hardy anyone knows this language in Graal (maybe no one but Tiki actually), so no =\

damn now it looks like all we can do now is make me guilds admin hmmmmm ;)

please stfu :)

hahahahahah

:P

It doesn't matter how many people use it. We don't want Graal to be offensive to anybody, no matter how much of a minority.

He's free to judge otherwise. In any case, that level of rudeness isn't particularly excessive. I could name higher staff who'd do worse.

So nearly half of the guilds should be deleted for offensive meanings in other languages? And others that offend only a few people?

Tell me the names x_X with examples then.