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Shorty2Dope 02-25-2002 02:15 AM

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Originally posted by Griffyn

ok, so now the admins have to spend a few months to 'debug' the staff, even though it uses a similar script to the zal rifle. :rolleyes:

Do you script anything at all? Besides Hello World in C++? No matter if you use the same script or not and then add stuff it will still have bugs. Besides the damn staff just got finished Friday and the quest is almost done. Sometime this week it will be available to the public from what I understand.

Gangster88 02-25-2002 02:15 AM

I think this is all wrong birdbird and loreil should have there RC back i think they are doing a good job and i got no clue why bird got banned

Griffyn 02-25-2002 02:17 AM

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Originally posted by Shorty2Dope


Do you script anything at all? Besides Hello World in C++? No matter if you use the same script or not and then add stuff it will still have bugs. Besides the damn staff just got finished Friday and the quest is almost done. Sometime this week it will be available to the public from what I understand.

sorry, i know nothing about scripting, i suppose i shouldnt judge that much (i couldnt script my way out of a brown paper bag). i play the game, i dont make it. and if it is out in a week i have to re-upgrade :\

Shorty2Dope 02-25-2002 02:19 AM

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Originally posted by Griffyn

sorry, i know nothing about scripting, i suppose i shouldnt judge that much (i couldnt script my way out of a brown paper bag). i play the game, i dont make it. and if it is out in a week i have to re-upgrade :\

I have like 14 days left on my account I need to upgrade soon :(

Slaktmaster 02-25-2002 02:44 AM

A question for Loriel, has the stuff been sorted out?

Warcaptain 02-25-2002 02:45 AM

theres much more stuff that i dont like either.

that affects me as owner too >_<

Loriel 02-25-2002 02:56 AM

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Originally posted by Slaktmaster
A question for Loriel, has the stuff been sorted out?
Bird is still banned, and I cannot access Graal2002 or get on my PW with RC.

Shorty2Dope 02-25-2002 02:57 AM

Is contego limit, contego?

shaggy_elven 02-25-2002 02:58 AM

SAVE GRAAL

Mustang1988 02-25-2002 03:01 AM

I could picture this thread in a Graal Talk Show :p..

Hahahaha.. People pulling out towers of papers filled with RC logs, with all the people involved sitting on a debate stage thing, with the Graalians watching. Okay, back to the real world.

What is this stuff about GodSpeed getting banned, too?

Warcaptain 02-25-2002 03:05 AM

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Originally posted by Loriel

Bird is still banned, and I cannot access Graal2002 or get on my PW with RC.

loriel owns a pw?

:lost:

Warcaptain 02-25-2002 03:10 AM

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Originally posted by Shorty2Dope
Is contego limit, contego?

no.. it seems tehre are many graal legend imposters latley..

i saw a Galen on, a Manny (fake) and now Contego Limit.

next is Ibionic Legends :rolleyes:

Mr. Bear 02-25-2002 03:19 AM

LETS HOLD HANDS IN A CIRCLE AND SING AS A COMMUNITY.

;)

ZanderX 02-25-2002 03:20 AM

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Originally posted by Warcaptain



no.. it seems tehre are many graal legend imposters latley..

i saw a Galen on, a Manny (fake) and now Contego Limit.

next is Ibionic Legends :rolleyes:

Haha.

Of course, the real galen is now on quite often. :P

Valder 02-25-2002 03:22 AM

There still needs to a staff rehaul on 2k1

Faheria_LAT3 02-25-2002 03:37 AM

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Originally posted by Crono Illusion
I was informed recently that contego has given out Mithica's FTP information to Unholy Nations or one of the other servers at least once. contego, that's really, really low.
SILVER:
The only times Contego went on Mithica was to fire Kerin for the 2nd time and then to fire Gabiani because Kumada gave out the FTP info on the forums and to other people.

gozen 02-25-2002 04:11 AM

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Originally posted by Domini
Things like this never happened when Mr. Bear and NightLord were CGO.
Nothing really happened when They were staff.

AlkarenHyralt 02-25-2002 04:18 AM

I am still confused though..so is HR still around with their "authority" and is nem still asst. gm or whatever postions contego's asst. is?

Valder 02-25-2002 04:47 AM

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Originally posted by AlkarenHyralt
I am still confused though..so is HR still around with their "authority" and is nem still asst. gm or whatever postions contego's asst. is?
No, Nem was fired.

Lyndzey 02-25-2002 04:51 AM

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Originally posted by Valder


No, Nem was fired.

What?! What for?!

Valder 02-25-2002 04:53 AM

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Originally posted by Lyndzey


What?! What for?!

Well, Unixmad said no more asst GM which means nem was fired because he was asst GM. There was no need for him and he didn't really do anything anyway.

draygin 02-25-2002 05:01 AM

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Originally posted by Griffyn
all the admins didnt have toys, not while stefan was in charge, i even see people like 'madmartigan; or 'ne0' with a frickin staff of light. no toys. do you get to bring a nerf gun to an office?
You ***** I dont even know what the hell a staff of light is yet alone ever used one so get your facts straight before you start whining and slandering other people.


-Madmartigan

vsignasv 02-25-2002 05:03 AM

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Originally posted by ZanderX
No offense, Lyndzey, but...

Contego was a great GM who interfered where he shouldn't have.

A great GM who tried to run other people's servers for them.

Birdbird DID ban Contego. There's a log, and I'll send it to you if you wish.

It most likely will change your opinion of Contego.

I know I am a little late on this one but I'm definately ganna have to side with BirdBird. I saw the log and Contego was being a complete ass. He strolls in like he owns the place. At that point he didn't even know who ran the server or who Birdbird even was.

Any problems or death threats relating to this post.... You know how to contact me.

draygin 02-25-2002 05:04 AM

and another thing to further show your stupidity after talkin with Shadow Knight

he got the people mixed up its a different neo, hes staff there and the staff of light is coming out for every one soon - Shadow Knight



-Madmartigan

Torankusu 02-25-2002 05:14 AM

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Current state.
 
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Originally posted by Mr. Bear


LORIEL its not always about you. Its about who works under you that you need to watch for. I saw about 20 people with warpto running around on G2K1 the first day i was back. Explain that? I also some staff im not going to mention flashing their npcs that they made for themselves in the markets.

Uhm,
A few have it:
Konidias, Falados, Loriel, Birdbird, Alkaren, and reese. Galen, I think.

Lady Auron, Bhala, and people like that shouldn't even have it.

Gangster88 02-25-2002 05:20 AM

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Originally posted by Torankusu
Uhm,
A few have it:
Konidias, Falados, Loriel, Birdbird, Alkaren, and reese. Galen, I think.
Lady Auron, Bhala, and people like that shouldn't even have it.

Yup i think you deserv RC since you FAQ Chief.

Torankusu 02-25-2002 05:21 AM

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Originally posted by Lyndzey
I really don't think people should be giving out RC logs like that...

Contego did a great job on Classic, and I think he's just trying to help out by making 2001 have better staff. I'm not sure if 2001 needs good staff that work hard and answer PMs, but they could use a few new people and get rid of a few people.

Lyndzey. Let me ask you this.
Did you see the log?

DeathChill 02-25-2002 05:42 AM

hmm I am still unsure what I do now..Because I can't do anything with the emails if they need help that requires email change,etc.hmm

Lyndzey 02-25-2002 06:22 AM

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Originally posted by Torankusu
Lyndzey. Let me ask you this.
Did you see the log?

I did. He did not fire you. He does not fire without talking to unixmad, which is the right thing to do.

HeeroYuy2000 02-25-2002 06:55 AM

hmm? what happend?

Er1c 02-25-2002 07:55 AM

What a dumb idea... This is the complete opposite from what Graal needed to make it's staff managed better. Every staff desision now needs to be made by one of two people who are near impossible to get in contact with... what a _great_ idea :grrr:

And now even the account managers don't have level 4 RC (the level that allows them to manage accounts)... another GREAT management desision!

Please, Stefan and Unixmad, consider revising your decisions before you scare off too many people from subscribing to Graal -- nothing will get done like this.


And like Torankusu asked before, why is the playworld inspection team now reviewing playerworlds, and why is the graphics team (graphics copywrite team, whatever you want to call it) checking online playerworlds for illegal content such as scripts, sounds, ect., when the playerworld inspection team checked for ALL OF THESE?

Birdbird_0 02-25-2002 08:00 AM

Mr. Bear, you are overexsadurating. People with RC that are local are
Loriel, Me (not now ;\), Shadow Knight, Konidias, Falados, Alkaren, Reese, Soto.

So Alkaren is the one who manages police and he hardly warps on graal, he is part of the curruption cuase for managing police?

Falados is also part of the curruption for devioping things for the server, as is Konidias?

Shadowknight is part of the curruption because he makes good npcs and some need to be debuged and tested?

Loriel is corrupt because he manages staff and stands up to people who falsely accuse him and make bad assumtions?

I am a currupt staff for putting up (as will all staff members) with hords of usless and stupid pms, helping people, developing and doing the best I can to work on 2k1?

The fact is the global staff are basing all their assumtions and opinyons on one or two people yelling at them, or the forums Witch isnt 2k1. Mr. Bear, when you got on alot of people warped to you wether global or local to say hi because they missed you.

As for the admin npcs in the market. All npcs such as that were restricted to testing in test levels a while back so if that happens you report that to me or loriel just like any other player rather than using it as in your defence as staff being corrupt so is the whole server.

As for 2k1 and me losing power as loriel.
DO you guys have ANY idea how hard it is just to logg on rc? I get around 20-50 pms the minute I logg on, and I look at everyone, doesn't mean I respond to all of them (like LDSJFKJF HI HI HI SUP HI) (PLZPLZ GIVE MONEY PLE?!) and such, but It takes a while to deal with those problems. Than when some one wants me to do something it ends up taking 5x as long because I'm answering the pms and doing about 3 other things.

The staff are not corrupt as you potray them to be. This opinyon alot of people whold is part of a mass influence created by few that spread like a virus.

The rc I had on 2k1 was for managing staff (I had to fire corrupt people who abused their powers, and hire people that want to work) and for developing. I don't sit on rc ploting out how I will abuse my powers and come down to kill you every day. There are many things we do on rc that you people fail to realize or just ignore. What do you think about that?

And for Contego. No no no, now you guys are totaly ignoring what happend about him. He came on and fired toran withought consulting me directly or Loriel, instead he tells Soto to tell one of us. I logg on rc to see what happend. Contego ignores me, and I step in to say to contego that he has no right to do this. INstead of acutaly confronting me he replys with a "*yawn*"
Do I really need to take that? No, so I start to talk to him some more, saying to adress me right and to talk to me good, he says whatever. Than I say Stop Acting like a 10 year old and talk to me . Then this escilates.
Not only did he show this ignorance but disrespect and inexperance on 2k1.

I didn't want him on 2k1 because he has very limited time and experance on 2k1 (its more about knowing the players rather than just the staff) and because he has 0 respect for other people he deals with in my opinyon (on 2k1)

I do NOT want some one like Contego being the Tyrant of 2k1, not because of him replacing me, because I want whats best for 2k1, and having someone like him in that position, who knows jack about the server is wrong.

If you guys want to talk about this more do it here, I'm swamped on icq and aim already.

Asuka 02-25-2002 08:00 AM

I still think the entire GO staff should all commit suicide and the players should be turned into monkeys. THAT WOULD SOLVE ALL THE PROBLEMS

Griffyn 02-25-2002 08:02 AM

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Originally posted by Asuka
I still think the entire GO staff should all commit suicide and the players should be turned into monkeys. THAT WOULD SOLVE ALL THE PROBLEMS
long time no see...and you cant call me un-popular anymore :p

Providence_Admin3 02-25-2002 08:09 AM

I guess I don't get my global PW Administration tag for a while.

Birdbird_0 02-25-2002 08:28 AM

... About this whole situatio, I feel pretty bad about it, a bit depressed

Tyhm 02-25-2002 08:30 AM

ASSISTANT account admins are at level 1. The Account Admin still has the insano powers.

Hulk Hogan 02-25-2002 08:36 AM

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Originally posted by Birdbird_0
Mr. Bear, you are overexsadurating. People with RC that are local are
Loriel, Me (not now ;\), Shadow Knight, Konidias, Falados, Alkaren, Reese, Soto.


You forgot about me.
I've had local RC there for MONTHS as ART and ART Admin....

I answer pm's.. I usually dont get the ones about adding dolls and hats and stuff because people know by what i can and can not do. I occasionaly get a pm from someone asking for money...But not a whole lot...

cloudstrifevii 02-25-2002 08:38 AM

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Originally posted by Birdbird_0
my Birdbird_0 is account banned and Loriel's rc is level 1 still :(
So that why you were on under different acct.

Shorty2Dope 02-25-2002 08:38 AM

Everything seemed fine to me, before contego came along =/

I think the staff has been doing great (besides giving me my damn football team back which was tooken with out my consent.)


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