I like it too, but it only shows one part of Graal, it shows nothing of the classic graal.

Love that one. ^^

I think that it's very important we don't orient the webpage to the existing community members, but potential community members. I don't think we should emphasize some western sense of equality and try to get every aspect (or even the more popular aspects, from the community point of view) of Graal into the introductory page.

This image has a nice ambience about it, but as a header its too dark.

Yes, this only makes sense.

I mean, it would be awesome to show all styles of servers on GraalOnline, but you have to think about the "potential community" as stated by Stephen that they need to see something that will possibly be attracting to them.

I just don't want to create a header that is simply for potential players but something that feels warming for existing members. So right now I'm battling myself on how to implement eye candy with alot different features Graal has to give, without it being a "2D newbfest LAWL".

I mean who wouldn't be attracted at the view of a 3D looking game that has some originallity to it? Thats why I picked Graal Kingdoms, but more headers is on the way were I'm really going to try to catch ALL aspects of Graal. (i.e Zone, Classic, GK, Era, ect.)

I thought so too, but it all depends on what color Jeff decides to make the template I suppose, if the template will be dark, I want something that wont contrast too much with the rest of the template.

Well, I didnt mean all the different styles. There is a big difference between classic style and gold server style. That's what I meant.

Not sure how much I like this one:

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e1.../newheader.jpg


I don't take credit for this artwork at all, I just edited/spiced it up a bit. (I believe the credit goes to Cyberjoeurs):

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e1...estheaderr.jpg

Needs something that looks exciting, also there is better things you can get from GK than slashing a bomy, possibly some pvp or something?

Could just create a bunch of banners for different servers and randomly rotate them every time the page loads. It would look much better than trying to make one banner out of all the different themes and styles.

I personally prefer the classic "Graal" (wish the swoosh) style banner. I have the PSD source file from the banner I created for the classic iPhone app if I can find where I saved it... it's in the same style.

That's a good idea

Can't say I really support this idea, Graal is already lacking a centralized theme as it is, making a website constantly shift themes would just add to the confusion.

Then Graal needs a more centralized theme before that can happen. However, apparently the topic is not about a centralized theme, so I think I can safely disregard that sort of approach. So until that happens, I'd rather random banners than a jumbled one that tries to reflect the many servers.

Stuck on looking for a centralized theme? Lost for focus on the most impressive Graal features? Well Luda and I have came up with quite possibly the best representation of Graal, and more importantly it's best feature.. Flying Technology!

Attachment 49712

Let us know if it needs more contrast.

Well, part of the website building is also to build a nice centralized theme. I have someone working on a new login screen theme and stuff and plan to eventually have a centralized theme. I think I'd like it if we actually worked towards a good goal rather than working towards a quick fix of a bunch of random banners (which requires more work anyways).

Well, their direction doesn't seem to be going that way, and since they're the only ones who seem to be trying, I'm at least going to cater my suggestions to what they're doing.

However, seeing as Graal itself needs to be centralized as well, I don't think that should be the work of two players who are just trying to help out.

I also never said I agreed with their work, but if something is going to try to fit a bunch of screenshots of different servers, or focus on one, may as well make them go through them all in an elegant fashion. That's only if the banners are going to try to reflect specific servers, however.

Creating a theme that best represents Graal is going to be hard because... well, it's been said, Graal is made up of a bunch of random stuff. The closest thing we have is the Graal2001 logo. I think this needs to be a separate thing that's done first, however, rather than leaving it all up to webdesigners, because like I said, Graal itself is in need of it.

Here's my header for the grael site.

http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/2564/47706825.png

We're trying to lose the pink theme :\

Pink LMAOXXDDDDDD, srsly though i see red.

Hahahaha... =]

lmao!

Get me a gun; I need to shoot down a balloon. We'll all mourn Luda's passing - or try to catch him.

Think u guys should use my banner its gud.

http://i35.tinypic.com/2hnon6w.jpg

that's some old school for you ;) sorry saved it as a gif X_x I did like this layout from back in the day.Attachment 49716

Lol... notepad open "cubes password"

Are we trying to scare them away o.o j.k

I pretty much would like seeying that one lol

That banner actually wouldn't be too bad, if it were vectorized or professionally draw. :cool:

LOL most awesome one here, next to Deo's of course.

You bastard.

I'm not sure I know what you mean by this?

Me likes. This looks great. :) A classic styled server themed like that and we're good to go. ;)

Less paint brush tool, more pen tool imo. :)

Here we go. they should make it look maybe something like this from back in the day ;)

*Update*
Jeff was showing me a update on the template and it's looking great.
I think he is going to wait until it's finished or near finished before he releases anymore. But I can assure you guys it's looking great and has a good old school look for us community members and a good look for newcomers as well :)

Looking forward to seeing it. I have a few concepts that KAi and his girlfriend made, I'll see if he's ok with posting them on here. Once we have a good concept, I have a few volunteers who are willing to help code the site if need be.

Make a freaking team if you have to! whatever it takes to get rid of the disgusting current one

The background image is nasty, i prefer the last background image they used. The char images under the login would be better if colored with pastel. Navbar titles should be another color than white. Overall, i like it, and it's already better than what there is now, not bad at all. :)

After that gets up, how about making only 1 template, instead of the... I think 3 different ones now depending on how you go to the site. theres a blue, a pinkish, and the green one.