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RawPower 08-12-2001 07:41 AM

Re: Re: The Rha Project
 
Quote:

Originally posted by T-Squad


Complex scripting? Few points:

Complex scripting does NOT require the NPC server. Plus, scripting which does require NPC Server and is complex will not work offline. So that was *** to say...unless you use bravo as a testing grounds...but even then I doubt someone with lack of script knowledge, like you, could possibly get the full potential our of the NPC Server...

You item system will, I suspect, not beable to support new things like the default one. What I mean is, it will most likely be pre-set.

Most likely, based on the garbage script on old bravo and new, none of this scripts use arrays for spacing and showing the images...or recording the position of the items...meaning it is most likely a 700 line script which cause Kyle0654 to have seizures and is very bad.

The images are not very good...

The name is not original...

Barely nothing done...

Seems to be managed by unskilled...

All around looks ***.

Other then that, it looks good.

Dont be mean >=(

BocoC 08-12-2001 08:23 AM

That was pretty mean. First off, yes, I DO use Bravo to test the system, because I DO need the npcserver. The npcserver is used to gain EXP for killing a player. When you attack, you send your damage, account name, x position, and y position to the target. The target uses the damage string to figure out how much damage he recieved, and the x and y position to figure out where to get "knocked" back. Now, if the player "dies", then he uses the account name of the attacker and sends it to the npcserver control npc, which then uses 'getplayer' to send EXP back to the attacker.

Also, we want townsfolk to wander around, go to work, church, and other things, so we need npcserver to let the npc's wander out of their level.

Now. The item system. It DOES have limitations, yes. One of those limitations is that item pictures bigger than 32 by 32 pixels have a change to "bleed" or "spill" out into other items. That is why we are making all icons 32 by 32 pixels. The item system uses npc's that your player has, loading the npc name and picture into the system and displaying it. I COULD have the item system support unlimited items, but that is unrealistic:rolleyes:

I am skilled, T-Squad.

As for the pictures of the Inventory, I am just about to create an options window where you can change the image of the inventory. People can send in custom built inventory window's and we can upload them. I am also going to program into the options and option where the inventory automatically closes when you are attacked.

We have no levels currently, yes. I am waiting to do levels last, because I don't wanna create thousands of levels to find that I have to go through them all again and modify the npcs because I changed the system... But, we got a map done and are going to start working on levels soon.

Now, for the question I am going to ask. I currently have the system where after a certain amound of EXP points, your character levels up. I was wondering. Would people rather have it that way, or where your stats level up depending on how much you use them. Like, if you use Magic alot, your magic will level up, and if you use a lot of swords and axes, your strength will level up. See, your characters can be more like what you do if you use the stat's level up upon use system, besides the EXP level up system.

Hmm. I know I forgot something I was going to write, but oh well. This has been my reply. Please tell me your preference on which level up system to use.

T-Squad 08-12-2001 08:54 AM

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Originally posted by BocoC
That was pretty mean. First off, yes, I DO use Bravo to test the system, because I DO need the npcserver. The npcserver is used to gain EXP for killing a player. When you attack, you send your damage, account name, x position, and y position to the target. The target uses the damage string to figure out how much damage he recieved, and the x and y position to figure out where to get "knocked" back. Now, if the player "dies", then he uses the account name of the attacker and sends it to the npcserver control npc, which then uses 'getplayer' to send EXP back to the attacker.

Also, we want townsfolk to wander around, go to work, church, and other things, so we need npcserver to let the npc's wander out of their level.

Now. The item system. It DOES have limitations, yes. One of those limitations is that item pictures bigger than 32 by 32 pixels have a change to "bleed" or "spill" out into other items. That is why we are making all icons 32 by 32 pixels. The item system uses npc's that your player has, loading the npc name and picture into the system and displaying it. I COULD have the item system support unlimited items, but that is unrealistic:rolleyes:

I am skilled, T-Squad.

As for the pictures of the Inventory, I am just about to create an options window where you can change the image of the inventory. People can send in custom built inventory window's and we can upload them. I am also going to program into the options and option where the inventory automatically closes when you are attacked.

We have no levels currently, yes. I am waiting to do levels last, because I don't wanna create thousands of levels to find that I have to go through them all again and modify the npcs because I changed the system... But, we got a map done and are going to start working on levels soon.

Now, for the question I am going to ask. I currently have the system where after a certain amound of EXP points, your character levels up. I was wondering. Would people rather have it that way, or where your stats level up depending on how much you use them. Like, if you use Magic alot, your magic will level up, and if you use a lot of swords and axes, your strength will level up. See, your characters can be more like what you do if you use the stat's level up upon use system, besides the EXP level up system.

Hmm. I know I forgot something I was going to write, but oh well. This has been my reply. Please tell me your preference on which level up system to use.

Haha you must know nothing. Have you ever heard of triggeraction and params? You COULD have triggeraction as attacking, then the player you attacked could reply with triggeraction as well. Think you are smart by trying to sound intelligent? You aren't using the NPC server correctly...which proves what Is aid about you knowing nothing.
Your item system seems terribly laggy, imagine 10 people using it at once, or 100. And your whole system with experiance..imagine many people using that as once. Plus you will have tons od database NPCs...it would be lag central...plus you most likely frequently use timeout...that will probably cause alot of NPC server crashes...

You are skilled? Sure didn't show you were on bravo...that server is very ***. I expect the same with the server you are working on..and anyone else with a brain should to. People don't often instantly go from no skill to good skill, which is the case for you. So i'd say you are still at no skill.

And I am Soul Blade *****, and, as Shadrock would say, Don't you have any observing skills? (he said something like that at least)

You have now been added to my ***** list as king *****.

RawPower 08-12-2001 08:59 AM

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Originally posted by T-Squad


Haha you must know nothing. Have you ever heard of triggeraction and params? You COULD have triggeraction as attacking, then the player you attacked could reply with triggeraction as well. Think you are smart by trying to sound intelligent? You aren't using the NPC server correctly...which proves what Is aid about you knowing nothing.
Your item system seems terribly laggy, imagine 10 people using it at once, or 100. And your whole system with experiance..imagine many people using that as once. Plus you will have tons od database NPCs...it would be lag central...plus you most likely frequently use timeout...that will probably cause alot of NPC server crashes...

You are skilled? Sure didn't show you were on bravo...that server is very ***. I expect the same with the server you are working on..and anyone else with a brain should to. People don't often instantly go from no skill to good skill, which is the case for you. So i'd say you are still at no skill.

And I am Soul Blade *****, and, as Shadrock would say, Don't you have any observing skills? (he said something like that at least)

You have now been added to my ***** list as king *****.

And you sir, need to add me to your cool list, or you will DIE! :D

T-Squad 08-12-2001 09:02 AM

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Originally posted by RawPower


And you sir, need to add me to your cool list, or you will DIE! :D

Hmm...a fair exchange...I get added to yours, and I add you to mine.

The Soul Blade Cool People List is a incredible list to be on!

BocoC 08-12-2001 09:04 AM

Um. What did I ever do you, Soul Blade? Are you angered at something? Or do you just like spreading hateful messages to people.

As for just using triggeraction to send back data, what if the player that killed you is laggy or what if the player leaves the level? The triggeraction will never hit him and he won't gain experience.

And, why would it cause horrible lag if lots of people are using the system? Its all client-side on the player's account. How would that cause lag? Please tell me so I can fix it.

Oh, and I DO know about triggeraction and parameters. All weapons use triggeraction to send info to the player.

And, I am not going to have every npc in the game be inside the npcserver database! That is plain stupid! Only key NPC Characters will be in the database, like the kind that will quest with you, or lead you somewhere.

Also, I restrict my timeout use. If the system is not being used, it goes into an "idle" mode with a higher timeout, as not to lag the player up as much.

RawPower 08-12-2001 09:06 AM

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Originally posted by T-Squad


Hmm...a fair exchange...I get added to yours, and I add you to mine.

The Soul Blade Cool People List is a incredible list to be on!

My cool list is better, I started the cool list trend. Its a great honor to be added to my list. All other lists are ordinary, mine is extraordinary!

Oh by the way im just playing around ;-)

T-Squad 08-12-2001 09:11 AM

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Originally posted by RawPower


My cool list is better, I started the cool list trend. Its a great honor to be added to my list. All other lists are ordinary, mine is extraordinary!

Oh by the way im just playing around ;-)

Ha! The mere fact that I, Soul Blade, created my list makes mine beyond incredible to be on! Yours may be original, but mine is great and stuff...

Hmm I forgot to add Smokey Bear to my list...

RawPower 08-12-2001 09:13 AM

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Originally posted by T-Squad


Ha! The mere fact that I, Soul Blade, created my list makes mine beyond incredible to be on! Yours may be original, but mine is great and stuff...

Hmm I forgot to add Smokey Bear to my list...

Many people will disagree with you, many people wont disagree with me. HA! I win =)

LiquidIce00 08-12-2001 09:17 AM

T-Squad im sorry but you are a *****.
Listen to Boco he has much to teach you.
and actually he is a really really really good scripter...
Just because he works on Bravo and not much of his work is seen or whatever doesnt mean he sucks ;)
and no1 will be having seizures. There is a difference between a long needed code and a long un-needed code.
And hes looking for staff he didnt post here so you can make urself look stupid.
so piss off

08-12-2001 09:19 AM

*I like cheese* That's all i have to say about this. Except the fact that I know Boco knows what he's doing. =):eek: :)

T-Squad 08-12-2001 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BocoC
Um. What did I ever do you, Soul Blade? Are you angered at something? Or do you just like spreading hateful messages to people.

As for just using triggeraction to send back data, what if the player that killed you is laggy or what if the player leaves the level? The triggeraction will never hit him and he won't gain experience.

And, why would it cause horrible lag if lots of people are using the system? Its all client-side on the player's account. How would that cause lag? Please tell me so I can fix it.

Oh, and I DO know about triggeraction and parameters. All weapons use triggeraction to send info to the player.

And, I am not going to have every npc in the game be inside the npcserver database! That is plain stupid! Only key NPC Characters will be in the database, like the kind that will quest with you, or lead you somewhere.

Also, I restrict my timeout use. If the system is not being used, it goes into an "idle" mode with a higher timeout, as not to lag the player up as much.

Who said the player would send back experiance data? It would send data like a counter attack, or anything else like that. Experiance should be completely client side, if a player dies then a person gains experiance, not to hard to do without lagging the server like you will do with your system.

If you do not have a npc in the database it cannot switch levels, meaning you can't have a village full of npcs which can go to different levels...

Why do you people always use timeouts? They are not dependable, and not good to work with...

Oh and, with triggeraction, if the player is lagged he won't get hit in the first place. The instant a trigger is set on the player it would reply...

Any more stupid questions? You need a combo of intelligence, creativity, image skill, level skill, script skill, gani skill, and all that stuff in order to make a good server...wether that skill comes from a few people combined or from 1, it what any successful server needs. You seem to have low script knowledge, no graphics skills, no level skills, no intelligence, no creativity...

Soul Blade's prediction: *** server.

T-Squad 08-12-2001 09:22 AM

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Originally posted by RawPower


Many people will disagree with you, many people wont disagree with me. HA! I win =)

woah..thats...deep...*trys to absorb these words*...could you refrase that :D

RawPower 08-12-2001 09:23 AM

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Originally posted by T-Squad


woah..thats...deep...*trys to absorb these words*...could you refrase that :D

Um I think it basically says mine is better, k.

T-Squad 08-12-2001 09:25 AM

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Originally posted by LiquidIce00
T-Squad im sorry but you are a *****.
Listen to Boco he has much to teach you.
and actually he is a really really really good scripter...
Just because he works on Bravo and not much of his work is seen or whatever doesnt mean he sucks ;)
and no1 will be having seizures. There is a difference between a long needed code and a long un-needed code.
And hes looking for staff he didnt post here so you can make urself look stupid.
so piss off

Haha you one to talk? How can someone who owns one of the ***est servers and obvious has none of the skills I listed in my post previous to the post previous of this rate how skilled another is?

Boco has much to teach me? ROFLOL. Thats all I'm going to say, because I could outscript him in 5 seconds...not to mention make far better images, levels, and anything else far better then him.

He worked for bravo, that should tell everyone about his stupidity.

08-12-2001 09:25 AM

Ok... who the heck is Mafukie...???? He's been using my account and i dont know how he got a hold of it. ~.~

T-Squad 08-12-2001 09:26 AM

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Originally posted by RawPower


Um I think it basically says mine is better, k.

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SMOKEY BEAR ISNT IN YOUR LIST!!!!

Hes the one who says

"Only YOU can prevent forst fires"

HOW COULD YOU LEAVE HIM OUT!!!!!!!

And you have Godspeed only once in your ***** list :(

RawPower 08-12-2001 09:31 AM

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Originally posted by T-Squad


!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SMOKEY BEAR ISNT IN YOUR LIST!!!!

Hes the one who says

"Only YOU can prevent forst fires"

HOW COULD YOU LEAVE HIM OUT!!!!!!!

And you have Godspeed only once in your ***** list :(

Wally Bear is cooler than Smokey Bear. Godspeed is a ***** I dont need to say it more than once when my point gets through the first time >_<

T-Squad 08-12-2001 09:34 AM

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Originally posted by RawPower


Wally Bear is cooler than Smokey Bear. Godspeed is a ***** I dont need to say it more than once when my point gets through the first time >_<

Whos Wally Bear?

Smokey Bear will eat wally bear, because smokey bear has a hat and says "only you can prevent forest fires"!

RawPower 08-12-2001 09:36 AM

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Originally posted by T-Squad


Whos Wally Bear?

Call the number under Chronos avatar. Dont do drugs.

BocoC 08-12-2001 09:36 AM

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Who said the player would send back experiance data? It would send data like a counter attack, or anything else like that. Experiance should be completely client side, if a player dies then a person gains experiance, not to hard to do without lagging the server like you will do with your system.
So. You are basically telling me that you should earn the same experience for killing a level 1 newbie and a level 50 warrior?
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If you do not have a npc in the database it cannot switch levels, meaning you can't have a village full of npcs which can go to different levels...
Not all of the npcs will switch levels. Only "key" npcs, like ones that take you places or show you around.
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Why do you people always use timeouts? They are not dependable, and not good to work with...
What would you work with?
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Oh and, with triggeraction, if the player is lagged he won't get hit in the first place. The instant a trigger is set on the player it would reply...
Hmm. Maybe, but I don't think so. Will have to try that...
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Any more stupid questions? You need a combo of intelligence, creativity, image skill, level skill, script skill, gani skill, and all that stuff in order to make a good server...wether that skill comes from a few people combined or from 1, it what any successful server needs. You seem to have low script knowledge, no graphics skills, no level skills, no intelligence, no creativity...
I take it that you are judging me because of where I work. You think that everybody on Bravo Online sucks at everything they do. I pitty you.

T-Squad 08-12-2001 09:38 AM

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Originally posted by RawPower


Call the number under Chronos avatar. Dont do drugs.

...

THE CHESE ITS IN YUOR AVITER LOEK S) REOL I WAONT TE EIT TEM

BocoC 08-12-2001 09:42 AM

Cheeze-its....... Yum......

T-Squad 08-12-2001 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BocoC

So. You are basically telling me that you should earn the same experience for killing a level 1 newbie and a level 50 warrior?

Not all of the npcs will switch levels. Only "key" npcs, like ones that take you places or show you around.

What would you work with?

Hmm. Maybe, but I don't think so. Will have to try that...

I take it that you are judging me because of where I work. You think that everybody on Bravo Online sucks at everything they do. I pitty you.


Haha you really are an idiot.

1 - Bravo online has never had good NPCs, in other words, you either aren't doing your job, is ***, or don't know how to script.

2 - You are contridicting what you said about all the npcs in villages will move from level to level.

3 - If you had any knowledge of script you would know other less laggier more dependable ways to replace timeouts.

4 - There are other ways to give experiance based by another players properties...the way you plan on doing it will cause an incredible amount of lag.

5 - Yes, everyone on Bravo staff is horrible at what they do.

6 - Soul Blade don't talk to *****s, so don't bother replying because you are defined as a *****.

08-12-2001 09:43 AM

I personally think lists=waste of post space. Even though i dont really post anything, i dont know what im talking about!!! :D

BocoC 08-12-2001 09:50 AM

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1 - Bravo online has never had good NPCs, in other words, you either aren't doing your job, is ***, or don't know how to script.
Bravo Online has some neato npc's. My fishing pole script impressed Vincent Valentine and he passed Bravo. (Oh no. Now you shall diss Vincent calling him stupid enough to pass Bravo, and call my fishing script stupid.)
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2 - You are contridicting what you said about all the npcs in villages will move from level to level.
Nah. I just wasn't making myself clear. I don't re-read my stuff sometimes.
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3 - If you had any knowledge of script you would know other less laggier more dependable ways to replace timeouts.
Oh greatest scripter, give me your wise advice and instruct me on how to check for a keydown event with the Q key without timeout....
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4 - There are other ways to give experiance based by another players properties...the way you plan on doing it will cause an incredible amount of lag.
Such as...?
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5 - Yes, everyone on Bravo staff is horrible at what they do.
Wow. You ARE anti-Bravo. What other servers have you decided to hate?
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6 - Soul Blade don't talk to *****s, so don't bother replying because you are defined as a *****.
So?

RawPower 08-12-2001 09:52 AM

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Originally posted by BocoC

So?

oh brother..:rolleyes:

BocoC 08-12-2001 09:53 AM

Heh. I guess 'so' didn't cut it...

General 08-12-2001 11:00 AM

i guess a loop would do the trick

08-12-2001 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by LiquidIce00
T-Squad im sorry but you are a *****. I SECOND iT
Listen to Boco he has much to teach you.
and actually he is a really really really good scripter...
Just because he works on Bravo and not much of his work is seen or whatever doesnt mean he sucks ;)
and no1 will be having seizures. There is a difference between a long needed code and a long un-needed code.
And hes looking for staff he didnt post here so you can make urself look stupid.
so piss off

basicaly, I SECOND LIQUID!

damn, most of the cool and good bravoians are getting popular and famous, but... is till ahvent done ****...lol, yeah i owned and own bravo, yeah i'm like one of the oldbies to them, but the thing is, i still ahvent done ****, sitting back and watching the world go....by,

so in order to become popular at such rates of quickness, i dont need, i'll just defend my friends and watch them become popular and then finnaly become even mroe popular and famous again

thank you for reading

- This is a offtopicish rant about this topic, and it';s really a statement, not a rant,.. ahh i'm just too tired right now!

08-12-2001 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by T-Squad

5 - Yes, everyone on Bravo staff is horrible at what they do.

hmm, so if you are anti=bravo, then you must hate UN, Enigma Xone and a couple other decent servers, unless you are stupid, thoes three are direct Bravoian decendants, all from Bravoians and all of thoes bravoians that amade htoes where staff

so and i quote (directed at you, cause i know retards dont knwo anything and have to explain SLOWLY
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Originally posted by T-Squad

Haha you really are an idiot.


LiquidIce00 08-12-2001 11:14 AM

Soul blade..
1. ur a *****
2. ur a *****
3. ur a *****
4. ur a *****..
3 years later..
10902930293. ur a *****.
10902930294. stfu

get out ur stupid and ur saying stupid things. go use ur trigger action if it makes u happy. it wont really matter . ur might be a little less laggy but way more buggy =(
and bravo sucks because brandon wasnt on doing much ..
and actually timeouts are perfect. if you want to make a loop with sleep go ahead feel free . i hope you know thats even laggier =(
and i hope you know trigger action is pretty *****y about x,y . so you would need to run a loop for that too.

entravial 08-12-2001 11:14 AM

I could go on for ages and ages and explain how dumb all your posts are soul blade, but I'll focus on a couple.

1. Learn to spell

2. Let me think, last week you were saying I want to help bravo because it was my fav. server. Nothing further on this topic.

3. 'If you had any knowledge of script you would know other less laggier more dependable ways to replace timeouts. '
Show us them then.

4. You were talking about how boco can't script. If he can't script then how was he hired huh?

5. Unholy Nation and Bravo have made it online, and, hmmm, umm, I wonder if your server has made it online huh? I wonder if it has.

6. How many times has the name 'Soul Blade' been used? It's not original. And he never said he was going to name it that, it's just a code name.

7. What have you got against him anyway?

Edit:

by the way from your sig:

**People who think they are cool/skilled when in fact they are ***/unskilled**
Boco, Godspeed, Falados, umm and some other people (perhaps you)

funny how thier servers made it up and they are sooo unskilled hey?

08-12-2001 11:29 AM

entravial is right, LEAVE US ALON YOU N00BY LITTLE BASTARD!

there, thats all of it in summary

now that sig thing, take it off ok, or you will be forever imprinted as a florking lamer, stupid ass n00b and a person who doesn't know good cept for his own self centered ****

Torankusu 08-12-2001 11:35 AM

Re: please stop
 
Quote:

Originally posted by slp
stop posting servers that havnt ever started and other things like that, you should acualy start and get alot of things done before u talk about a server project.
Haha, you are not the one to be talking... there were like 6 Frolic threads on stupid unfound updates..

Torankusu 08-12-2001 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by LiquidIce00
Soul blade..
1. ur a *****
2. ur a *****
3. ur a *****
4. ur a *****..
3 years later..
10902930293. ur a *****.
10902930294. stfu

get out ur stupid and ur saying stupid things. go use ur trigger action if it makes u happy. it wont really matter . ur might be a little less laggy but way more buggy =(
and bravo sucks because brandon wasnt on doing much ..
and actually timeouts are perfect. if you want to make a loop with sleep go ahead feel free . i hope you know thats even laggier =(
and i hope you know trigger action is pretty *****y about x,y . so you would need to run a loop for that too.

go away..

Bravo has bowling.

BocoC 08-12-2001 11:51 AM

Was that anti-bravo or for-bravo? LOL! I have a feeling it is both...

LiquidIce00 08-12-2001 12:00 PM

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Originally posted by Torankusu
go away..

Bravo has bowling.

=\
Torankusu u go away. read the thread u making it look like I am anti bravo.
I was like one of the highest staff before it was p2p.
and Soul Blade can i be on your list too ?

Asmodeus-James 08-12-2001 12:04 PM

HEY DUDES OUT THERE I AM ELITE SO PUT ME ON YOUR LIST, OK?

RawPower 08-12-2001 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by LiquidIce00
Soul blade..
1. ur a *****
2. ur a *****
3. ur a *****
4. ur a *****..
3 years later..
10902930293. ur a *****.
10902930294. stfu

get out ur stupid and ur saying stupid things. go use ur trigger action if it makes u happy. it wont really matter . ur might be a little less laggy but way more buggy =(
and bravo sucks because brandon wasnt on doing much ..
and actually timeouts are perfect. if you want to make a loop with sleep go ahead feel free . i hope you know thats even laggier =(
and i hope you know trigger action is pretty *****y about x,y . so you would need to run a loop for that too.

Your so smart but yet you fail to use proper english ...:rolleyes:
Word of advice: Do not put down other servers unless you have a server that is better than it. Cuz from the looks of it UL and Bravo are both downhill..


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