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alskdjfhg 01-17-2012 07:55 AM

Post a pic, I wanna see this

ffcmike 01-18-2012 06:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ffcmike (Post 1671112)
V6 with OpenGL runs painfully slowly if I've had my computer running for several hours (6/7 +) beforehand, which kindof makes sense in a way but the slowdown is abnormal, other programs are running fine including V6 with DirectX.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skyld (Post 1671201)
Can you verify this with other OpenGL games? Does it just affect Graal?

It turns out that this problem is only occurring when I open the client while still using the shortcut method containing "-opengl" within the path. It's actually running fine when opening the client normally and using the F3 option to enable OpenGL.

MattKan 01-20-2012 03:54 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by alskdjfhg (Post 1681906)
Post a pic, I wanna see this

Correct.png = another player's client (left)
Incorrect.png = my client (right)

Yes, the colors on the correct.png do look awkward but that's because I set them using my own client- I did not mix up the images!

Sky 01-21-2012 06:36 PM

Always wondered why my graal v6 freezes when I start the task manager? I haven't looked through the thread to see if it was solved or posted before. The game just turns to a black screen and it seems the playerlist still works but the actual client does not.

MattKan 01-21-2012 10:15 PM

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Usually when I play a different game with Graal minimized (e.g. Minecraft, Civilization, Age of Empires) if I come back to Graal the screen is completely blacked out. I can still hear sound, but I can't see anything. If I minimize and bring the screen back up it is still black. I'm forced to restart. FYI, at first I thought it had something to do with full screen mode on other games (Civilization, Age of Empires), but then it started happening with Minecraft which I don't play in full screen mode.

Another problem is the tray icon not displaying correctly (see attachment).

Quote:

Originally Posted by ffcmike (Post 1673100)
Edit: Upon opening the client a 2nd time, this box hasn't appeared for me at all.

Same (attached)

callimuc 01-21-2012 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sky (Post 1682313)
Always wondered why my graal v6 freezes when I start the task manager? I haven't looked through the thread to see if it was solved or posted before. The game just turns to a black screen and it seems the playerlist still works but the actual client does not.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MattKan (Post 1682334)
Usually when I play a different game with Graal minimized (e.g. Minecraft, Civilization, Age of Empires) if I come back to Graal the screen is completely blacked out. I can still hear sound, but I can't see anything. If I minimize and bring the screen back up it is still black. I'm forced to restart. FYI, at first I thought it had something to do with full screen mode on other games (Civilization, Age of Empires), but then it started happening with Minecraft which I don't play in full screen mode.

Another problem is the tray icon not displaying correctly (see attachment).

Just resize the Graal screen. Also happens to me but resizing seems to help.

MattKan 01-21-2012 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by callimuc (Post 1682337)
Just resize the Graal screen. Also happens to me but resizing seems to help.

Doesn't help me.

Also my graal icon in the tray menu is now invisible.

Emera 01-28-2012 12:03 AM

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Don't know if anybody else is having this issue, but it's seriously starting to bug me. Whenever a GUI is created, it doesn't go where it should and ends up in random screen locations until it's refreshed for a second time. Image attached.

Tricxta 01-28-2012 06:15 AM

Nope, I think that's just you.

Emera 01-28-2012 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tricxta (Post 1682933)
Nope, I think that's just you.

I never had the issue on Ubuntu linux.

ffcmike 01-29-2012 01:33 PM

It seems as if no matter what server you log on, whether there are any scripted GUI controls or not, after opening the client for the first time GraalControl is unfocussed and you can't move until you click the screen, even happens when I attempt to force focus once everything has initialized.
This wouldn't be a problem for the vast majority of players, but in terms of someone logging on for the first time you never know, might not occur to them.

fowlplay4 01-29-2012 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ffcmike (Post 1683076)
It seems as if no matter what server you log on, whether there are any scripted GUI controls or not, GraalControl is unfocussed and you can't move until you click the screen, even happens when I attempt to force focus once everything has initialized.
This wouldn't be a problem for the vast majority of players, but in terms of someone logging on for the first time you never know, might not occur to them.

Maybe it's because of that intrusive download window that every Graal player instinctively closes as soon as it opens. Unless it's a tileset downloading that thing should never appear.

ffcmike 01-29-2012 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fowlplay4 (Post 1683094)
Maybe it's because of that intrusive download window that every Graal player instinctively closes as soon as it opens.

It's happening without this.

Andre2006 02-03-2012 08:56 PM

Did someone add the "Disable startup message" to V5 when trying to send a mass message? It is totally in the way of my writings ;[ (I know this has nothing to do with V6, but I couldn't find anywhere else to post it!)

ffcmike 02-03-2012 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ffcmike (Post 1683076)
It seems as if no matter what server you log on, whether there are any scripted GUI controls or not, after opening the client for the first time GraalControl is unfocussed and you can't move until you click the screen, even happens when I attempt to force focus once everything has initialized.
This wouldn't be a problem for the vast majority of players, but in terms of someone logging on for the first time you never know, might not occur to them.

I managed to fix this with a combination of using Chris Vimes solution:

Quote:

Originally Posted by cbk1994 (Post 1660518)
PHP Code:

function onFirstResponderChanges(temp.obj) {
  if (
temp.obj.dontStealFocus) {
    
this.lastResponder.makeFirstResponder(true);
  } else {
    
this.lastResponder temp.obj;
  }


Then you could just set dontStealFocus on any GUI control and it wouldn't steal focus.

plus:

PHP Code:

ChatBar_ToggleTaskBarButton.dontstealfocus true;
DownloadProgress_CloseButton.dontstealfocus true

and then upon all systems initializing, manually setting focus to GraalControl or whatever object should have focus via:

PHP Code:

obj.makeFirstResponder(true); 


cbk1994 02-04-2012 02:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andre2006 (Post 1683531)
Did someone add the "Disable startup message" to V5 when trying to send a mass message? It is totally in the way of my writings ;[ (I know this has nothing to do with V6, but I couldn't find anywhere else to post it!)

This is a GK bug, not a v6 or v5 bug.

Andre2006 02-04-2012 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cbk1994 (Post 1683566)
This is a GK bug, not a v6 or v5 bug.

Oh okay!

Emera 02-04-2012 01:54 PM

Also reported by another member on the forums.
For some reason, when starting up graal, it will randomly forget the nickname, account and password, which is quite annoying for people who haven't memorized their password.

xXziroXx 02-04-2012 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emera (Post 1683604)
Also reported by another member on the forums.
For some reason, when starting up graal, it will randomly forget the nickname, account and password, which is quite annoying for people who haven't memorized their password.

Solution: memorize your password.

Emera 02-04-2012 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xXziroXx (Post 1683609)
Solution: memorize your password.

You don't say...

TSAdmin 02-04-2012 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xXziroXx (Post 1683609)
Solution: memorize your password.

A noble solution, but it's still somewhat of a bug. However, such information is saved to the Windows Registry. Are you sure it's related directly to Graal itself and not a third-party software preventing certain programs from writing to the registry, or possibly doing a regular registry search and delete cleanup process (EG: An Antivirus/Firewall/etc scanner doing a regular "clean up")? This isn't a typical issue to come across, so I would probably assume it to be a problem locally rather than with the client itself (or we'd all be having this problem).

Andre2006 02-04-2012 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emera (Post 1683604)
Also reported by another member on the forums.
For some reason, when starting up graal, it will randomly forget the nickname, account and password, which is quite annoying for people who haven't memorized their password.

This only happens to me if I have disabled my firewall, to prioritise programs like Hamachi or Tunngle to play games online that usually don't find servers through the normal network.

Emera 02-04-2012 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andre2006 (Post 1683618)
This only happens to me if I have disabled my firewall, to prioritise programs like Hamachi or Tunngle to play games online that usually don't find servers through the normal network.

I've disabled mine after what you just said. It hasn't happened to me at all since then, and it normally has a 7/10 chance of doing it when I restart graal. Thank you <3

Andre2006 02-04-2012 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emera (Post 1683625)
I've disabled mine after what you just said. It hasn't happened to me at all since then, and it normally has a 7/10 chance of doing it when I restart graal. Thank you <3

Having your firewall disabled is not very smart! ;P

cbk1994 02-04-2012 09:48 PM

Graal has forgot passwords from time to time (on both Graal and RC) for as long as I can remember. Never had it forget my account or nick, though.

DustyPorViva 02-04-2012 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emera (Post 1683604)
Also reported by another member on the forums.
For some reason, when starting up graal, it will randomly forget the nickname, account and password, which is quite annoying for people who haven't memorized their password.

If you run an older version of Graal(like say, Graal 1.4) it uses a different encryption for passwords in the registry, but still stores it in the same registry value as the new versions. So it pretty much overwrites the registry for your saved password with a version that the current Graal doesn't decrypt, thus you lose your password.

Emera 02-04-2012 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andre2006 (Post 1683626)
Having your firewall disabled is not very smart! ;P

It's not permanently disabled. Only when logging in to Graal <3

ffcmike 02-04-2012 11:18 PM

The word "Admins" on the playerlist should really be changed to "Staff".

TSAdmin 02-05-2012 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ffcmike (Post 1683652)
The word "Admins" on the playerlist should really be changed to "Staff".

I agree with this, but I'd love to see it go even further. Perhaps at the bottom of the list, out of the way, (or even within the "Staff" list itself, although that may put RC's higher on the list than they need to be), all RC's should be grouped as "Non-Client Staff" or something to that effect.

It's no secret people are getting more ignorant to the point that what wasn't an issue 5 years ago is an issue today whereby you seemingly have to be on tag for people to realise you're staff, completely ignoring the fact that your RC is active. We need it to be easier for players to differentiate playerlist population that can help them from those that are just other players.

Crow 02-05-2012 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TSAdmin (Post 1683682)
I agree with this, but I'd love to see it go even further. Perhaps at the bottom of the list, out of the way, (or even within the "Staff" list itself, although that may put RC's higher on the list than they need to be), all RC's should be grouped as "Non-Client Staff" or something to that effect.

It's no secret people are getting more ignorant to the point that what wasn't an issue 5 years ago is an issue today whereby you seemingly have to be on tag for people to realise you're staff, completely ignoring the fact that your RC is active. We need it to be easier for players to differentiate playerlist population that can help them from those that are just other players.

I'd love if RCs were only listed in the playerlist if they are on tag. Otherwise, not at all. That'd be great.

MattKan 02-05-2012 05:13 PM

Now my Graal sound has stopped working and it's not even showing up in the volume mixer o_o

fowlplay4 02-05-2012 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MattKan (Post 1683703)
Now my Graal sound has stopped working and it's not even showing up in the volume mixer o_o

Try renaming your Graal6.exe to something else. Do you experience any other issues with your computer outside of Graal?

cbk1994 02-05-2012 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TSAdmin (Post 1683682)
It's no secret people are getting more ignorant to the point that what wasn't an issue 5 years ago is an issue today whereby you seemingly have to be on tag for people to realise you're staff, completely ignoring the fact that your RC is active. We need it to be easier for players to differentiate playerlist population that can help them from those that are just other players.

I disagree. I've been staff on plenty of servers, and players have never had trouble finding me when I was on RC. It helps on Era that RCs are given a special head that can't be used by players.

Graal needs a better support infrastructure, though. A lot of the problems with staff communication arise because players are using PMs instead of something like a support center. Era's is an example of a very effective one which helps a lot of players with complicated issues. I would like to see one on all servers, though.

Admins 02-06-2012 01:45 AM

There will be a new release in a few days which will improve some stuff.

Emera 02-06-2012 02:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stefan (Post 1683751)
There will be a new release in a few days which will improve some stuff.

Sounds good <3

fowlplay4 02-06-2012 03:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stefan (Post 1683751)
There will be a new release in a few days which will improve some stuff.

Quote:

Originally Posted by fowlplay4 (Post 1671684)
Still experiencing the issues with GuiScrollCtrl's and Highlighting.

When the mouse leaves the boundaries of an external window it no longer keeps track of the state (which buttons held down) or location of the mouse.

If you want people to be happy with Graal Client-based tools you really need to fix these issues.

The issues in my post here are still present in the current client:
http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...postcount=1207

Is the above fixed in your latest version?

Admins 02-06-2012 08:50 PM

Well it's fine in the Mac version, but I can also check in the Windows version.

Tigairius 02-10-2012 03:15 AM

Not sure if someone else has posted this yet or not, but I can't seem to draw fonts larger than size ~48. According to cbk1994, this is only a bug on Windows.

For example:
PHP Code:

new GuiTextCtrl("test_text") {
  
profile GuiBlueTextProfile;
  
useownprofile true;
  
profile.fontSize 72;
  
text "Hello";
  
screenwidth 2;
  
screenheight 2;


will draw the exact same size as:

PHP Code:

new GuiTextCtrl("test_text") {
  
profile GuiBlueTextProfile;
  
useownprofile true;
  
profile.fontSize 48;
  
text "Hello";
  
screenwidth 2;
  
screenheight 2;



MattKan 02-13-2012 12:39 AM

In the playerlist, the player's current level doesn't update - it just stays constant at wherever they logged into.

Admins 02-13-2012 03:37 AM

The size of bitmap fonts is limited to 48 pixels (was 30 before), and polygon fonts are disabled in the Windows version right now, but can check sometime to enable it again.


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