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CharlieM 05-21-2009 11:01 PM

The doors actually this door recolored black from atrius, I would post an image but I don't seem to have one on my this PC. Someone submitted that door to me once as an application for GFX I can't remember who though

Crow 05-21-2009 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by salesman (Post 1492887)
Yea, I wouldn't doubt it if they have an old backup of Era that they are just stealing from. It's kind of hard to prove without access to their scripts though.

Could try to find and abuse some exploits in old code. If you can exploit it the same way, it's probably the same code :p

DuBsTeRmAn 05-21-2009 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Bell (Post 1492814)
Stefan would like to see them go hosted since players seem to enjoy the server

No wonder they have so many players, It is almost the same as Era.. And people like Era.

Matt 05-21-2009 11:24 PM

<sarcasm>Glad to hear Stefan supports this, and even happier that this situation seems to be handled lighter than it should be</sarcasm>. This is obviously way more than just stealing a few things here and there.

Frankie 05-21-2009 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DuBsTeRmAn (Post 1492896)
No wonder they have so many players, It is almost the same as Era.. And people like Era.

players can get stuff on graal ghetto that they wouldn't normally be able to get on era. i'm sure over at graal ghetto they don't care much for their economy and probably hand out weapons and items everywhere. i'm sure if era did that these kids won't be flocking to graal ghetto. not suggesting that era should do that, i'm just saying.

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Originally Posted by Bell
Be specific in your complaints though. Frankie for example at least showed which images were Era's. For those of you without that ability if you specified what an item was and what level you found it in, it will make it far easier for them to track down. You will have to expect some recolors though. Lets be realistic here, if every recolored image on Graal was deleted, we would have every server looking exactly the same. Almost everything on Graal is a recolor or remake of something else and I doubt anyone could even track it to its origins any longer.

the whole reason why they recolor the images is so they can basically say it's not the same image. clearly you can see that a lot of stuff has the same exact layout except they probably threw a color filter over it in photo shop.

with your logic I can probably recolor all of era's graphics and make my own server and there's not a thing anyone can do about it, lol.

Bell 05-22-2009 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 1492902)
the whole reason why they recolor the images is so they can basically say it's not the same image. clearly you can see that a lot of stuff has the same exact layout except they probably threw a color filter over it in photo shop.

with your logic I can probably recolor all of era's graphics and make my own server and there's not a thing anyone can do about it, lol.

You're taking my comment about recoloring a little too literal. A good example of that is the upper left image of the stairs. Thats just a recolor of the gold colored stairs in pics1. The sofa is another example. That same sofa comes in almost every color of the rainbow. I believe it was blue in its global image form.

Guns are another thing I wonder how anal I should even get. A glock is a glock, a colt is a colt. Aren't they actually going to look alike anyway if you think about it? How many pixels difference should I consider something not being a recolor.

I am not defending their actions. Its quite well known amongst the developers of Graal Ghetto, Utopia and Atrius that I would prefer never to see sight of these servers again. As far as I'm concerned everything they've developed on their servers had its origins in Era. Saying that however I cannot deny all modern servers just because they all have similar features.

zephirot 05-22-2009 01:54 AM

I'm going to start a GK clone so everyone can access it, who is with me

DarkRenji 05-22-2009 12:35 PM

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I wonder if he has changed from his old ways?

CharlieM 05-22-2009 12:55 PM

I was wrong about the door, I was thinking it was the recolored door from atrius but sales showed me that the door from there and the door on era were the same colors, Atrius's door was larger and had sharper corner

Pelikano 05-22-2009 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkRenji (Post 1493054)
I wonder if he has changed from his old ways?

He is indeed allowed to do stuff like that untill his Server goes Hosted.

Vima 05-22-2009 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkRenji (Post 1493054)
I wonder if he has changed from his old ways?

Hahaha, thats a new one for me.
WOW, Managers trading staff positions for weapons on other servers.

Bell 05-22-2009 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Vima (Post 1493097)
Hahaha, thats a new one for me.
WOW, Managers trading staff positions for weapons on other servers.

Not really advisable to do though. There's consequences when the major servers don't allow cross server trading.

DuBsTeRmAn 05-22-2009 06:20 PM

He also tryed to do that to me a while ago..

Elizabeth 05-22-2009 07:39 PM

screenshots or it didn't happen.

emoman 05-24-2009 01:03 AM

I was hired as a PR on this server, 2 days later i was fired from complaints about doing my job.

"EMOMAN JAILED MY BEST FRIEND FOR NO REASON ALL WE WERE DOING WAS TESTING OUT ARTMONEY ON THE SERVER"

THe PR admin who hired me does nothing but sell all of his guns on tag. I've seen players go up to ask him for help all he does it say "IDK ask one of my PRs, or shadow"


As for Shadow, LMAO. I pmed him saying "say...that fishing gani looks awfully familiar, is it from Zodiac ?"

"No, i made it"

"You sure ?"

"Do you want jailtime ?"


This server is trash and will be nothing more then trash.


NOT TO MENTION
I've seen him give away staff positions for money and items on era, and sometimes even USD.

Stryke 05-24-2009 08:26 AM

There's a whole video on Shadow trading Graal Ghetto items for Era items on YouTube.
Why is he even allowed to own a playerworld?

cbk1994 05-24-2009 09:29 AM

Shadow is a pretty poor manager. It's well known that he trades staff positions and spawned items for stuff on other servers, as well as jailing/banning anyone he dislikes.

The reason, as others have started, that Graal Ghetto has so many players is the same reason why Utopia and every other modern server had so many players. They virtually give out items.

Graal Ghetto is never going to go Classic, or even Hosted. There cannot be two Eras on the server list, especially when they are near carbon copies (except that one works).

I'm not saying there couldn't be another modern server, but it would need to do something totally different. Look at Zone. That has guns, but it has a totally different idea than Era.

DuBsTeRmAn 05-24-2009 10:09 AM

Rofl great story down here..
Yesterday i went online to Graal Ghetto on my other account and i walked to Shadow.
Me: Hey Shadow! Could you tell me why you steal scripts and images from my server?
Shadow: We didn't steal anything..

Me: Then why does your gun looks almost exactly as ours?
Shadow: Graal Ghetto was online way earlier then your server..

-- Some other trash talking --

Then after a while..
*Shadow uses his dragging tool and puts me on a wall*

Shadow: Omg hacker! You getting banned!
Me: Ehm actually you have put me on here :]

Shadow: No i didn't hacker!
Me: Ye sure, Corrupt *******? XD

Then he banned me for 'wallhacking'

Pelikano 05-24-2009 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by DuBsTeRmAn (Post 1493608)
Rofl great story down here..
Yesterday i went online to Graal Ghetto on my other account and i walked to Shadow.
Me: Hey Shadow! Could you tell me why you steal scripts and images from my server?
Shadow: We didn't steal anything..

Me: Then why does your gun looks almost exactly as ours?
Shadow: Graal Ghetto was online way earlier then your server..

-- Some other trash talking --

Then after a while..
*Shadow uses his dragging tool and puts me on a wall*

Shadow: Omg hacker! You getting banned!
Me: Ehm actually you have put me on here :]

Shadow: No i didn't hacker!
Me: Ye sure, Corrupt *******? XD

Then he banned me for 'wallhacking'

Somethign similiar happened to me.
I asked him to be a NAT, showed him some of my stuff and **** like that, then he gave me RC and a second later banned me for "wallhacking", no idea what his problem is :p.

Btw. you were really hacking once Name :]


However, I am pretty sure some of his scripts are stolen. As example he has the EXACT same script for the Glock18, which Litter wrote :o

Pelikano 05-24-2009 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by cbk1994 (Post 1493601)
Shadow is a pretty poor manager. It's well known that he trades staff positions and spawned items for stuff on other servers, as well as jailing/banning anyone he dislikes.

The reason, as others have started, that Graal Ghetto has so many players is the same reason why Utopia and every other modern server had so many players. They virtually give out items.

Graal Ghetto is never going to go Classic, or even Hosted. There cannot be two Eras on the server list, especially when they are near carbon copies (except that one works).

I'm not saying there couldn't be another modern server, but it would need to do something totally different. Look at Zone. That has guns, but it has a totally different idea than Era.

What about Spawn?
What about... what was it again... *TheJames server, I forgot it's name

Stryke 05-24-2009 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by DuBsTeRmAn (Post 1493608)
post

LOL. :noob:

DuBsTeRmAn 05-24-2009 11:46 AM

It's true ye sam, I did hack there.. But this time i didn't, And when i don't hack i get banned there and when i do hack they let me go on XD

DuBsTeRmAn 05-24-2009 12:03 PM

Shadow should be globally banned, And his server deleted..
He steals items from people @ other servers (Cross server trading)
He let them pay things on good servers for items on his crappy server which they will lose anyway

Video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGFWhvcEeTs

Nataxo 05-24-2009 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DuBsTeRmAn (Post 1493627)
Shadow should be globally banned, And his server deleted..
He steals items from people @ other servers (Cross server trading)
He let them pay things on good servers for items on his crappy server which they will lose anyway

Video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGFWhvcEeTs

I don't know if he steals or not but that video is from the old Graal Ghetto.

DuBsTeRmAn 05-24-2009 04:57 PM

Doesn't care if it is old or not, The fact that he does/did it is already wrong.

Nataxo 05-24-2009 05:08 PM

I thought he recived its punishment :o

DuBsTeRmAn 05-24-2009 05:10 PM

Well probally not, he is still abusing.

Pelikano 05-24-2009 05:14 PM

He still does it :]

Cloven 05-24-2009 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DuBsTeRmAn (Post 1493663)
Doesn't care if it is old or not, The fact that he does/did it is already wrong.

'Does' and 'did' are discernibly different instances at times, however. If we were to judge everything solely on what happened with it in the past, most if not all of the Classic and Gold servers combined would need to be lumped in with servers like Graal Ghetto. After all, some of them (some dramatically more than others) are servers where thievery either was, or, currently still is supported to varying extents by Management. [Not that I agree with the ones who are still doing this]

DuBsTeRmAn 05-24-2009 05:34 PM

Well you are right there.. o.O

CharlieM 05-24-2009 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Pelikano (Post 1493614)
What about Spawn?
What about... what was it again... *TheJames server, I forgot it's name

Atrius, and its nothing like Era...If you logged on it once even you would have been able to tell.....

Pelikano 05-24-2009 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Cloven (Post 1493676)
'Does' and 'did' are discernibly different instances at times, however. If we were to judge everything solely on what happened with it in the past, most if not all of the Classic and Gold servers combined would need to be lumped in with servers like Graal Ghetto. After all, some of them (some dramatically more than others) are servers where thievery either was, or, currently still is supported to varying extents by Management. [Note that I agree with the ones who are still doing this]

*cough* Smu *cough*

WanDaMan 05-24-2009 06:17 PM

I logged on & logged off within 5 minutes; I'd suggest you make it more interesting for new players who have no idea what to do or where to go. Also, I'm not a huge fan of all the windows popping up as soon as I log on! Goodluck

Switch 05-24-2009 08:59 PM

Graal Ghetto is an epitome of failure, at least for now, and probably forever.
You need some direction to go in for a good game, otherwise it's just nonsense bull****.

DarkRenji 05-25-2009 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Nataxo (Post 1493669)
I thought he recived its punishment :o

Even after making that video, and getting some screenshots I don't think he got in that much trouble, I think he only got reset on era or something.

Frankie9011 05-25-2009 03:45 AM

The guns you start off with are direct edit's of Era's old Mk23 graphics.
I heard/saw so much stolen material I almost puked.
This playerworld is quite literally "Era Ghetto".

xXMonkeyManXx 06-02-2009 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by bahamutstevetff (Post 1491236)
more era clones. *yawn*

LOL Rofl...oh so true.

pig132 06-03-2009 12:48 AM

stop reviving this ****ty server that nobody plays

Pelikano 06-03-2009 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by pig132 (Post 1496542)
stop reviving this ****ty server that nobody plays

There are some people that play it so stfu


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