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Griffyn 07-22-2001 11:24 PM

:cool:

Torankusu 07-22-2001 11:27 PM

Nice.

Huggles 07-22-2001 11:27 PM

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Originally posted by HiryuuX
if you let bomys use swords and big robots when they can already make cash moneys a ton faster than humans, the races will become totally unbalanced, please stop trying to give bomys a huge advantage, take some time to think your **** out and come back with a quality product.
Antago planned for bomys to have this in the beginning the tridents atleast I think

RawPower 07-22-2001 11:34 PM

(Beowulf)
1. Bomys should NOT be allowed to use swords and shields.
2. SSmutz and THT are wrong about the BAES, Gonmon has been saying for quite awhile that bomys were psychic. I believe even Antago said so.
3. The suits should only be useable in Antora. If you make these BAES things able to go down waterfalls or fly over mountains, I'd have to scream.

HiryuuX 07-22-2001 11:35 PM

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Originally posted by Huggles


Antago planned for bomys to have this in the beginning the tridents atleast I think

Yes, but do they have swords and tridents? No, instead they kick, and the races are fair, Bomys can gain money faster and they are fast on water, humans run on land faster and can use swords, why mess up balance just to add a robot suit and ultra-super mind powers?

Gameo 07-23-2001 12:59 AM

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Originally posted by Huggles


Yay this means I can release my mech game?

TrueHeaT: NO

Merlin 07-23-2001 01:11 AM

LETZ RP DRIVING ARE GIANT ROBOTRON TO TEH JUMP AND RUN AND TEHN INVAED TEH DUSTRIE CASTEL AND HTEN TEH PIRAT SHIP SI OURZ

Vash 07-23-2001 01:20 AM

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Originally posted by HiryuuX

Yes, but do they have swords and tridents? No, instead they kick, and the races are fair, Bomys can gain money faster and they are fast on water, humans run on land faster and can use swords, why mess up balance just to add a robot suit and ultra-super mind powers?

bomys also have hella-health

Gameo 07-23-2001 01:22 AM

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Originally posted by Vash


bomys also have hella-health

TrueHeaT: And client-side attacks so they're really easy to hit people with.

Rekad 07-23-2001 01:39 AM

BOMYS DONT NEED ARMOR!!! THEY HAVE THOSE IMPENANTRABLE SHELLS!

RawPower 07-23-2001 02:26 AM

(Beowulf)
Goddamnit, Sisok, you idiot. It's not armor!!! SHUT THE HELL UP! It's meant as a way for bomys to have arms and legs when they wouldn't otherwise.

Gameo 07-23-2001 02:28 AM

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Originally posted by RawPower
(Beowulf)
Goddamnit, Sisok, you idiot. It's not armor!!! SHUT THE HELL UP! It's meant as a way for bomys to have arms and legs when they wouldn't otherwise.

TrueHeaT: YAY LET'S TURN BOMIES INTO ROBOT HUMANS!

RawPower 07-23-2001 02:38 AM

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Originally posted by Gameo

TrueHeaT: YAY LET'S TURN BOMIES INTO ROBOT HUMANS!

(Beowulf)
Personally, I would have made it wooden, but it's kind of hard to ruin Graal when it's already going straight down the shitter.

kyle0654 07-23-2001 02:51 AM

my god...

Nobody at all should be complaining that doesn't know the ORIGIN of the bomies, or everything behind Zalactic Labs, so basically, NOBODY should be complaining.

Zalactic labs has been around quite a while, and it was ALWAYS a high-tech facility in the graalian world. Some time ago when it was still running, the main lab room had computers and monitoring devices all over the main lab room, as the two original scientists studied the earth and the life of the earth. Unfortunately, shortly after the discovery of bomies, and the initial research, the lab was destroyed. The plans and research for a morphing device which would allow humans to turn into a bomy were lost along with the lab.

Whether or not Professor and Prephesur survived is yet unknown. Though a new scientist has been attempting to salvage the rubble and seems to have discovered some quite interesting stuff within the laboratory and the several caverns in Mt. Antora.

Dont' go complaining about all the high tech stuff...it was always there in Zalactic labs, before any of you played G2K1 in fact, there were always plans for it. So just wait and see what happens...I'm sure it won't add unbalance to the game, or be incredibly stupid and make no sense (there will be *gasp* a plot!), because I'll make sure Gonmon stays on track, and I'm sure he'd do a good job anyway.

Torankusu 07-23-2001 02:53 AM

So you are saying that Humans might be able to morph into bomys soon?

kyle0654 07-23-2001 02:55 AM

no...our (Antago and I) original plans were to let you be able to morph any time you want...but Stefan didn't like that...and I guess Antago started seeing his point. We could have made several ways to make it work, but having two races isn't all that bad.

Torankusu 07-23-2001 03:04 AM

Okay.

konidias 07-23-2001 03:11 AM

No.. I beg of you.. don't do this...

I don't care when this idea was thought up about bomy's having suits and psychic powers.. It just won't work.

Graal does not really have a set time in history, but there are SOME limitations.. there are swords and shields, and arrows and such.. then there's trains and nukeshots and stuff like that.. THAT is ok.. big bomy suits walking around will KILL graal..

I have been playing graal for 2 years and there has been some crazy stuff, but never bomy suits controlled psychicly.. It's stupid. Bomy's are cooler without stupid suits. And before you complain to me about not having good reasons.. here I go:

1. Almost all current graal players think the game is based in the past
2. Bomy's were never announced to have psychic abilities (thats like saying the humans have psychic powers as well)
3. The bomy's will have too great of an advantage
4. The suits will NOT match the current graal scenery
5. The whole lab idea is corny and the bomy's seem more like little pets than some super intelligent psychic race of creatures.
6. Not all bomy's are the same size.. you would have to make like 30 suits for them all to have a good fit without looking even stupider.
7. Bomy's would become too much like human's ruining the point of having distinguished races.


This all sounds like some stupid idea you got into your head and now no one can tell you otherwise. It is a bad idea, and many people will tell you this.. If this gets online, than I want mobile suits for players as well.. and they get psychic powers, and the ability to fly, morph, and teleport.. and have magic powers, and can turn into model train sets that can move super fast...

Just kill the idea I will not enjoy it, and nor will a lot of other people.. I don't care if bomy's get more stuff, as long as they don't have this great advantage over human players. Plus I feel this is just a sad attempt to get revenge since bomy's are obviously weaker fighters.. you are just making it uneven by giving bomy's all the advantages the human players had over them.

To bluntly put it.. It's stupid.

FatherDante 07-23-2001 03:19 AM

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Originally posted by Gameo

TrueHeaT: And client-side attacks so they're really easy to hit people with.

TrueHeaT, I know you don't play much, but that was taken out months ago.

As for fairness, simple economic principle can be applied to show that bomys are not balanced with humans until they are desirable enough that about the same number of people play both. Right now, humans outnumber bomys almost 10 to 1. So keep making bomys better, please!

Gameo 07-23-2001 03:22 AM

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Originally posted by FatherDante


TrueHeaT, I know you don't play much, but that was taken out months ago.

As for fairness, simple economic principle can be applied to show that bomys are not balanced with humans until they are desirable enough that about the same number of people play both. Right now, humans outnumber bomys almost 10 to 1. So keep making bomys better, please!

TrueHeaT: Oh D:
They can make them better without phycic robot suits (of the future!)

SSmutz2 07-23-2001 03:53 AM

It looks 1337 but it's not for g2k1 :-/

kyle0654 07-23-2001 04:02 AM

lol, nobody actually probably knows about all the spiffy little stuff you can change on bomies to make them better in different areas...I mean, hp isn't the only customizable part about bomies (other than setbomy, which ruined having each type of bomy have special attributes)...there's a TON of other variables that affect the bomy morph...they're just never used...

Zalactic labs a dumb idea? There's absolutely no way I'd let anyone do anything if it wouldn't fit...I'm big on stuff fitting a plot. Zalactic labs is where all this stuff came from though...I mean, it's the faint shard of plot in the G2K1 world...it should have been integrated more in the beginning, but it wasn't...

evilive 07-23-2001 05:03 AM

Whew... I missed alot during my few hours of sleep. Any ways....

Kyle is right. Zal labs has been around b4 all of you. And yes, Dante, the Humans do have a major advantage over bomys in different areas such as number, speed, and attack ratio. I will be starting either an entier thread when Zalactic Labs is released or maybe a web page stating all the specs and information about the BAES.

And Beo, the swords/shields thing. Swords will be just another way of attacking. It will use bomb power as well. Also, the attack will not be used like humans, taking up about 5 or six sprites for one chop. Instead, it will be a simple straight forward attack in place of a kick. It might not just be swords, but tridents and spears instead.

Now then, everyone quit complaining.

Rekad 07-23-2001 05:17 AM

I think we should have a quest were we humans get to kill and bomy and steal his shell!!!!!!! so we can get to be able to shield ourselves and shoot through the water!

kyle0654 07-23-2001 05:42 AM

clean out your PMs or get on ICQ Gonmon)!@($&^)!$@

evilive 07-23-2001 05:45 AM

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Originally posted by kyle0654
clean out your PMs or get on ICQ Gonmon)!@($&^)!$@
Cleared and Online, sir. All I'm doing right now is waiting for Stefan's reply to this entier thread.

Valder_2 07-23-2001 06:13 AM

It reminds me of Martin from A. I.

LilNiglet 07-23-2001 08:15 AM

Finally bomys have a chance in wars, spar tourneys etcetc
this is gonna be COOL

freddyfox 07-23-2001 08:20 AM

Hmm... guess we won't be needing any need for Mechano anymore.

Rekad 07-23-2001 09:51 AM

I think we need some human mechs like taht if bomies get em.... all we get are stupid hats :(

Evil-Magus 07-27-2001 08:28 AM

Hmm, It would go better on my server
 
This Baes thing would go 10000000000000 times better on my server, with the futuristic theme and all, but i'll just have to make a mech of my own, I guess.Graal2001 seems like it is in medievil times, its like in 1600, Camelot is at war with some mech's, just doent seem right.Oh well!
Lol, and tomorrows my 15th birthday!

Rekad 07-27-2001 09:12 AM

Re: Hmm, It would go better on my server
 
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Originally posted by Evil-Magus
This Baes thing would go 10000000000000 times better on my server, with the futuristic theme and all, but i'll just have to make a mech of my own, I guess.Graal2001 seems like it is in medievil times, its like in 1600, Camelot is at war with some mech's, just doent seem right.Oh well!
Lol, and tomorrows my 15th birthday!

NO I HAVE SPACE SERVER

07-27-2001 09:27 AM

I WUN DA GONDEMS!!! GOONT VEESONS EF BAES FER OOMUNS!
EN WA OOS SIKIK POOERS TOE!!!! :D
Down with BAES untill we get Gundams!
Or better yet DONT PUT THE BAES ON G2k1 EVER!


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