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Tracker180 07-31-2007 07:01 AM

photons & saws & jets are ezpzlemonsqez

Sulukra 07-31-2007 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Tracker180 (Post 1335777)
photons & saws & jets are ezpzlemonsqez

Can't argue with that kind of sense.

Tracker180 07-31-2007 07:49 AM

HUWAJUX AND VULCAN RULESESORSlRS

Huwajux 07-31-2007 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Black_Wallstreet (Post 1335584)
That will never work. In one day I easily got 5,000 experience points which allowed me to equip many weapons (this was as a trial). A week later, Touya got even more than that, plus he had enough money for a jetpack and he earned a 1,500 bounty (back when bounty was much much harder to get back than, 10,000 bounty today is like 2,000 bounty back then). Anyways, he also did that on trial. So im sure that would not be a solution.

The entire Zone population doesn't account for just you (Although looking at previous playercounts I'm not too sure anymore). Not everyone can get 5k exp in one day, remember you are the 'King Of Zone' so how could anyone compare with such skill to gain that vast amount of experience?

pooper200000 07-31-2007 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Dante55555 (Post 1335731)
Do not listen to his seductive ways people! See the light! Sure, he may have more charm, poiz and intellect. But we have raw sexyness! And remember, you don't get to lame Anubis if you're on his side.

But if we go on anubis's side we can lame you :p

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Originally Posted by Huwajux (Post 1335854)
The entire Zone population doesn't account for just you (Although looking at previous playercounts I'm not too sure anymore). Not everyone can get 5k exp in one day, remember you are the 'King Of Zone' so how could anyone compare with such skill to gain that vast amount of experience?

You don't even have to be good. You just have to base lame long enough. I am pretty sucky and I can manage 5k exp in one day if I want to.

Ravenblade1979 07-31-2007 04:13 PM

Step 1: Fix guest accounts back to trial accounts

step 2: take out all items from shop

step 3: only have the gold subscription available to trials

Tracker180 07-31-2007 07:16 PM

again, Raven, why do you not want trials to be able to buy stuff?

Black_Wallstreet 08-01-2007 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Huwajux (Post 1335854)
The entire Zone population doesn't account for just you (Although looking at previous playercounts I'm not too sure anymore). Not everyone can get 5k exp in one day, remember you are the 'King Of Zone' so how could anyone compare with such skill to gain that vast amount of experience?

Any need to flame? Im not going to argue with you, again you are not worth it. Be immature if you wish, but dont drag me down with you.

Anybody, even the worst of players can get that much experience, maybe even more, with time and commitment. Remember that.

Ravenblade1979 08-01-2007 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Tracker180 (Post 1335999)
again, Raven, why do you not want trials to be able to buy stuff?

YOu don't read the forums do you. This is just one of the problems that p2p's are having. Trials being able to buy a chainsaw or something and use it on the p2p's to pwn them.

Crono 08-01-2007 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979 (Post 1336254)
Trials being able to buy a chainsaw or something and use it on the p2p's to pwn them.

Real trials can't pwn p2p. They sure didn't back when trials had full hp and such.

Ravenblade1979 08-01-2007 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Gerami (Post 1336279)
Real trials can't pwn p2p. They sure didn't back when trials had full hp and such.

lol I remember those days..lol.

MisterMastermind 08-02-2007 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Black_Wallstreet (Post 1336153)
Any need to flame? Im not going to argue with you, again you are not worth it. Be immature if you wish, but dont drag me down with you.

Anybody, even the worst of players can get that much experience, maybe even more, with time and commitment. Remember that.

... Jin was just more mature than Huwa. Wow, this new zone has signaled the start of the apocalypse.

Tracker180 08-02-2007 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979 (Post 1336254)
YOu don't read the forums do you. This is just one of the problems that p2p's are having. Trials being able to buy a chainsaw or something and use it on the p2p's to pwn them.

how bout they make it to where they can only use the ORIGINAL shop

Huwajux 08-02-2007 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Black_Wallstreet (Post 1336153)
Any need to flame? Im not going to argue with you, again you are not worth it. Be immature if you wish, but dont drag me down with you.

Anybody, even the worst of players can get that much experience, maybe even more, with time and commitment. Remember that.

You comment on what I said, saying it was flame. So you decide to instigate more flame within me by saying I am not worth it and that I should not 'drag you down with me'?

"With time and commitment". Wasn't your arguement that you could gain 5000 exp easily within a time space of just 1 day?

HitmanJ2XX 08-02-2007 11:03 PM

Hell, I couldn't get 5000 exp in 5 days, even on the older Zone.

But to restore order...its more than just pulling together. We need outside help, and lots/more of it. Now, Zone isn't amazingly HUGE, but you ever wonder why people are drawn to Unholy Nation, or Era, or Maloria, or Zodaic? The staff is able to do stuff, not just because there's a ton of them, but also because with that many people you can listen to the players. Also, with places such as UN you can count on several things to be the same. Quests, events, obscene amounts of spam that no one person should be subject to (so its passed to around 100+ people), and stuff to do that lets you hang out, without having to interact (not trying to be antisocial). But maybe Zone needs to turn into a Graal-wide project to help improve its wellbeing.

Black_Wallstreet 08-02-2007 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Huwajux (Post 1336594)
You comment on what I said, saying it was flame. So you decide to instigate more flame within me by saying I am not worth it and that I should not 'drag you down with me'?

"With time and commitment". Wasn't your arguement that you could gain 5000 exp easily within a time space of just 1 day?

Yes, that was my arguement, however I never stated that I was the only one who could perform such a task. I stated that anybody could with time and commitment, so there really was no need for you to claim me as the King of Zone just because I have it under my account name. If I labeled it Manager of Era, does that mean I am manager?

I must apologize to Daz for booting him out of that spot!

Huwajux 08-03-2007 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Black_Wallstreet (Post 1336712)
Yes, that was my arguement, however I never stated that I was the only one who could perform such a task. I stated that anybody could with time and commitment, so there really was no need for you to claim me as the King of Zone just because I have it under my account name. If I labeled it Manager of Era, does that mean I am manager?

You were also argueing against a recommended solution by saying you and Touya (Him on a trial) could gain 5k exp in just one day. You never mentioned anyone else could do it until a later post of yours. So that is why I argued that the entire Zone population didn't account for you.

I was also being sarcastic in that post if you didn't notice.

Tracker180 08-03-2007 01:28 AM

wow Timber's idea was completely ignored but it was really good :(

Crono 08-03-2007 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Tracker180 (Post 1336747)
wow Timber's idea was completely ignored but it was really good :(

I don't think so. Zone is the type of server where you log in and just simply start owning. It's not a server that needs constant updates. I always use games like Battlefield and Counterstrike as examples because it's the same deal, log in and start firing your guns and do it all again and again and again.

Zone is dying because it's not worth upgrading for. Not only this but unixmad thinks its a good idea to restrict trials more. He thinks people are willing to upgrade for Zone, when in reality Zone is NOT WORTH IT RIGHT NOW.

What Zone needs is an experienced staff to upgrade it, in terms of gameplay and appearance. Vulcan has some great ideas we'll try to implement but it'll take a little bit.

pooper200000 08-03-2007 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by HitmanJ2XX (Post 1336702)
We need outside help, and lots/more of it. Now, Zone isn't amazingly HUGE, but you ever wonder why people are drawn to Unholy Nation, or Era, or Maloria, or Zodaic? The staff is able to do stuff, not just because there's a ton of them, but also because with that many people you can listen to the players. Also, with places such as UN you can count on several things to be the same. Quests, events, obscene amounts of spam that no one person should be subject to (so its passed to around 100+ people), and stuff to do that lets you hang out, without having to interact (not trying to be antisocial). But maybe Zone needs to turn into a Graal-wide project to help improve its wellbeing.

I somewhat agree with that but... zone is also different than all of those servers because it is player vs player not player vs whatever. UN might be not p v p but I am pretty sure it is.
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Originally Posted by King of zone (Post 1336712)
Spam

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Originally Posted by Queen of zone (Post 1336730)
Spam

I now pronounce you king and queen, husband and wife with Gerami as the sole witness of your marriage.

anubis_wing 08-03-2007 04:43 PM

Who are the king and queen?
I CALL PRINCESS >:]

Ravenblade1979 08-03-2007 04:54 PM

*pounds his head on the desk* Ow

Then if people don't think its worth buying a gold subscription for then put it down to classic so more people will flock in and work on it then after a while let people know it might go gold and that they can purchase the zone gold subscription.

pooper200000 08-03-2007 04:54 PM

I CALL PRINCE! >:)
for king and queen click on the post locator things

Dante55555 08-03-2007 06:13 PM

Come on gang! Lets not sqauble! :)

Tracker180 08-03-2007 06:16 PM

I call Cammander of the Armed Knightss >: ) now back ontopic, zone Should go to classic for a few months / weeks just so people will see how good it is then more will upgrade :)

pooper200000 08-03-2007 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Tracker180 (Post 1336961)
I call Cammander of the Armed Knightss >: ) now back ontopic, zone Should go to classic for a few months / weeks just so people will see how good it is then more will upgrade :)

this was suggested with gk also. Either demolish gold servers or something. I don't think taking zone down would do much it would just boost up the playercount and allow us to have updates whenever we want/need them. But I don't think you are proposing it for that I think you are proposing it for that because yoiu want to be able to play it since you have lifetime classic.

zim5354 08-04-2007 03:14 AM

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Originally Posted by pooper200000 (Post 1337038)
this was suggested with gk also. Either demolish gold servers or something. I don't think taking zone down would do much it would just boost up the playercount and allow us to have updates whenever we want/need them. But I don't think you are proposing it for that I think you are proposing it for that because yoiu want to be able to play it since you have lifetime classic.

I doubt thats it, Zone as it is has around 5 players (counting rcs and the npc server) I think hes suggesting that to give the majority of the players a real taste of it by saving equipment, no limited play time etc. If they like it and its a hit when it goes back to gold people may subscribe for it.

MisterMastermind 08-04-2007 03:15 AM

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Originally Posted by zim5354 (Post 1337106)
I doubt thats it, Zone as it is has around 5 players (counting rcs and the npc server) I think hes suggesting that to give the majority of the players a real taste of it by saving equipment, no limited play time etc. If they like it and its a hit when it goes back to gold people may subscribe for it.

Wouldn't it be better to simply make classic players have the same rights and statistics as the trials used to have?

zim5354 08-04-2007 03:24 AM

i guess that would work to idk zones dead now though.

Ravenblade1979 08-04-2007 07:08 AM

At least people are starting to agree...now just to get vulcan and them to agree with our idea.

grawlgamer 08-04-2007 09:11 AM

Theres so many old zones, old old zones, new zones, I am getting confused. :) I don't think this big guild war would work, they boost the playercount on gk because there isn't normally a lot of PvP. On zone all there is, is pvp so a war between two "official" guilds won't change anything. Also I wish zone would go down to classic and get support by the willingly-to-work-for-FREE people who never get gold.. but its a low chance of happening.


P.S(maybe if you said a zone 2.0 is coming out like delteria, it would get highest playercount and then die down after about a week)

Crono 08-04-2007 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by grawlgamer (Post 1337215)
Theres so many old zones, old old zones, new zones, I am getting confused. :) I don't think this big guild war would work, they boost the playercount on gk because there isn't normally a lot of PvP. On zone all there is, is pvp so a war between two "official" guilds won't change anything. Also I wish zone would go down to classic and get support by the willingly-to-work-for-FREE people who never get gold.. but its a low chance of happening.

Old Zone was the one with Bloo Kat's graphics, I think it was late 2003/early 2004. Originally a CLASSIC SERVER.

Current Zone is, I believe, either late 2004 or early 2005...can't remember. Basically Stefan revived it and put it as a Gold server.

pooper200000 08-04-2007 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by grawlgamer (Post 1337215)
Theres so many old zones, old old zones, new zones, I am getting confused. :) I don't think this big guild war would work, they boost the playercount on gk because there isn't normally a lot of PvP. On zone all there is, is pvp so a war between two "official" guilds won't change anything. Also I wish zone would go down to classic and get support by the willingly-to-work-for-FREE people who never get gold.. but its a low chance of happening.

P.S(maybe if you said a zone 2.0 is coming out like delteria, it would get highest playercount and then die down after about a week)

zone can get help from the willing to work for free people who don't have gold... its called zone debug... zone debug isn't gold I think?

Ravenblade1979 08-04-2007 05:34 PM

Zone debug is gold. YOu have to have a gold account to go on it. Same as Kingdoms Debug.

Crono 08-04-2007 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979 (Post 1337314)
Zone debug is gold. YOu have to have a gold account to go on it. Same as Kingdoms Debug.

It used to be that VIP's could also go on Kingdoms debug on weekdays. I think it may be the same still.

Ravenblade1979 08-04-2007 07:56 PM

ah

Crono 08-04-2007 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979 (Post 1337337)
ah

Problem is that it's not currently like that on Zone Debug which really discourages me.

Tracker180 08-05-2007 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by pooper200000 (Post 1337038)
this was suggested with gk also. Either demolish gold servers or something. I don't think taking zone down would do much it would just boost up the playercount and allow us to have updates whenever we want/need them. But I don't think you are proposing it for that I think you are proposing it for that because yoiu want to be able to play it since you have lifetime classic.

no and partial-yes, no, it won't do much more than raise the playercount but we need that badly, I bellieve that the playercount is our biggest problem(although I might be wrong) we need the playercount up so we can get more people that have good ideas and suggestions for updates and to invite more people to join, one in every 5ish/10ish people have an idea, 1 in every 4ish/5ish ideas are good ideas that will boost the playercount up perminantly, partial-yes because a litle of the suggestion to make it classic was for my own personal gain, but you forget that I do not play Graal anymore except the occasional log-on to rick-roll the people of Era or UN for a few laughs.

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Originally Posted by zim5354 (Post 1337106)
I doubt thats it, Zone as it is has around 5 players (counting rcs and the npc server) I think hes suggesting that to give the majority of the players a real taste of it by saving equipment, no limited play time etc. If they like it and its a hit when it goes back to gold people may subscribe for it.

that's exactly what I was thinking.

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Originally Posted by MisterMastermind (Post 1337108)
Wouldn't it be better to simply make classic players have the same rights and statistics as the trials used to have?

I thought of that, but then again most classic players have retired or quit anything except Era or UN.

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Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979 (Post 1337156)
At least people are starting to agree...now just to get vulcan and them to agree with our idea.

yes, we need the full cooperation of the Zone community to create a unique idea that will stand out far above the rest and make the playercount thrive and grow as it once did before V5 but once that idea is found.

Ravenblade1979 08-05-2007 03:53 PM

OK so why does this topic keep going? Why doesn't zone staff make it classic...oh wait they need Stefan too..heh.

Black_Wallstreet 08-05-2007 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979 (Post 1337597)
OK so why does this topic keep going? Why doesn't zone staff make it classic...oh wait they need Stefan too..heh.

If the Zone players believe that this is a good idea, make a strong argument. Proper grammar, strong points..etc.

Good luck!


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