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Chandler 02-04-2007 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by zell12 (Post 1272809)
l o l z i r talk 2 stef4n more than u

too far.:p

Devil 02-04-2007 02:58 AM

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Originally Posted by zokemon (Post 1272771)
How old are you?
Do you major in Business?

WOW LOL.

I'm 20 sir, and yes I know quite a bit about business. I don't have to major in a business course to know anything about business, considering I have something you can't pay for, EXPERIENCE in the workplace. This comes from making Sales Manager in 4 months at the age of 18.

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Originally Posted by konidias (Post 1272800)
Well I have lost most contact with Stefan and Unixmad over the past few years, but I used to talk to Stefan and Unixmad almost every day at one point. (and argue with them frequently)

So I think that you have no idea what you're talking about. "Obviously".

What? I don't care what you did, I wasn't talking to you about what you could damn well do, I was talking about zokemon being able to get Stefan and unixmad in the same place, at the same time, listening to a bunch of players.

zokemon 02-04-2007 03:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Devil (Post 1272870)
What? I don't care what you did, I wasn't talking to you about what you could damn well do, I was talking about zokemon being able to get Stefan and unixmad in the same place, at the same time, listening to a bunch of players.

But they aren't players...They are classic managers which already have access to kingdoms debug and there for can already talk to Stefan.

Devil 02-04-2007 03:12 AM

Essentially the managers are going to pass on things from players are they not? You sound like you have no idea what you're doing, either that or you haven't thought this through.

Zideruic 02-04-2007 03:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Andy0687 (Post 1271982)
GOD WHO ARE THESE KIDS.

I wouldnt have to keep making the same point over and over if anyone was able to get them the first time around.

Just felt the need to quote this for future reference.

konidias 02-04-2007 04:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Devil (Post 1272870)
What? I don't care what you did, I wasn't talking to you about what you could damn well do, I was talking about zokemon being able to get Stefan and unixmad in the same place, at the same time, listening to a bunch of players.

I was pointing out that it's not impossible to get Stefan/Unixmad to listen to you or use your ideas. Because I quoted you saying that they "obviously won't be there" like you're so damned sure of yourself, when more than likely they WILL be there.

Get over yourself, you're not important in the least bit. Whoopdy doo, you own a house and several cars and were a sales manager at 18 and you bought a new computer and yadda yadda... All you ever talk about is your silly little accomplishments of personal gluttony. Congratulations.

Devil 02-04-2007 04:33 AM

He asked a question, and I answered it you fool.

Secondly, I bought a new computer, yes, and posted about it to see if anyone else had experiences with quad-core, forums are for talking yes? Sounds like you've got a big problem with this?

zell12 02-04-2007 05:22 AM

I was I was able to ban people, you and koni would be gone. ;)

konidias 02-04-2007 05:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Devil (Post 1272890)
He asked a question, and I answered it you fool.

Secondly, I bought a new computer, yes, and posted about it to see if anyone else had experiences with quad-core, forums are for talking yes? Sounds like you've got a big problem with this?

I quoted your answer and gave facts that showed your answer was a totally bullcrap and groundless opinion. Then you proceeded to attack me because of this.

You're the only person on these forums who goes on and on about their possessions. So far you've talked about your house, your cars, your computer, your job, I think your girlfriend or whatever... You're extremely ostentatious to the point where it's annoying.

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Originally Posted by zell12 (Post 1272899)
I was I was able to ban people, you and koni would be gone. ;)

Aww, I love you too.

DARKVILLIN 02-04-2007 05:49 AM

agreed

excaliber7388 02-04-2007 06:21 AM

I major in business.
Shaun did.
Unfortunately, they don't listen to you, no matter what you're studying.
I don't think they'd listen to their customers about anything, even if they really need your expertise.

DARKVILLIN 02-04-2007 06:24 AM

agreed...we've tried to talk to them before...customer's dont know whats best duh...lol *sarcasm*

excaliber7388 02-04-2007 06:27 AM

Yeah, it's the first thing you learn in any high school economics or business class.
"You customers don't know ****"
:\

Devil 02-04-2007 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by konidias (Post 1272903)
I quoted your answer and gave facts that showed your answer was a totally bullcrap and groundless opinion. Then you proceeded to attack me because of this.

You're the only person on these forums who goes on and on about their possessions. So far you've talked about your house, your cars, your computer, your job, I think your girlfriend or whatever... You're extremely ostentatious to the point where it's annoying.


Aww, I love you too.

You have a problem with this? Go ****ing do something about it. Take it to PM's.

LOL @ MG giving me bad rep. "I hope you treat your customers better than you treat Graal customers" WOW that's a bit hypocritical isn't it? Ofcourse I damn well treat my customers better, they're paying my damn wages! How about you treat your customers better.

xXziroXx 02-04-2007 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Devil (Post 1272969)
You have a problem with this? Go ****ing do something about it. Take it to PM's.

LOL @ MG giving me bad rep. "I hope you treat your customers better than you treat Graal customers" WOW that's a bit hypocritical isn't it? Ofcourse I damn well treat my customers better, they're paying my damn wages! How about you treat your customers better.

Now, now, that was uncalled for and we both know it.

Devil 02-04-2007 07:57 AM

Buh we're on AIM talking about it. It's going to stay out of this thread.

Andy0687 02-04-2007 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by xXziroXx (Post 1272992)
Now, now, that was uncalled for and we both know it.

I dunno that last part was pretty legit.

zokemon 02-04-2007 02:25 PM

Let me just say that things are going really great. We have 6/10 servers on the classic list. UN did refuse though. Only N-Pulse, Valikorlia and Shaded Legend is left!

Updates shown at:
http://wiki.graal.net/index.php/Proj...e_Graal_Reform

Rufus 02-04-2007 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by zokemon (Post 1273140)
Let me just say that things are going really great. We have 6/10 servers on the classic list. UN did refuse though. Only N-Pulse, Valikorlia and Shaded Legend is left!

Shaded Legend isn't on the Classic serverlist. I'm disappointed that Unholy Nation refused, I don't see why x_x and I'm sure N-Pulse will get involved.

excaliber7388 02-04-2007 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Devil (Post 1272969)
LOL @ MG giving me bad rep. "I hope you treat your customers better than you treat Graal customers" WOW that's a bit hypocritical isn't it? Ofcourse I damn well treat my customers better, they're paying my damn wages! How about you treat your customers better.

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Originally Posted by xXziroXx (Post 1272992)
Now, now, that was uncalled for and we both know it.

Nah, he's right.

zokemon 02-04-2007 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Rufus (Post 1273180)
Shaded Legend isn't on the Classic serverlist. I'm disappointed that Unholy Nation refused, I don't see why x_x and I'm sure N-Pulse will get involved.

I spent a good half hour at least explaining the entire system to Spryte and all I asked out of her was to attend a simple meeting after which she could leave if she wanted. She still said no. I don't want to degrade anyones character but I don't sense to much intelligence around those parts.

As for Shaded Legend: My rule basically said, any server that was at one time on the classic list.

konidias 02-04-2007 11:19 PM

I didn't receive any info on this. *sad*

zokemon 02-04-2007 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by konidias (Post 1273369)
I didn't receive any info on this. *sad*

I am trying to explain the project personnaly to classic managers since they a little more important then the other servers (which I can just send documents to). I'll try to contact you through aim.

konidias 02-05-2007 12:11 AM

That is so prejudice. >_<

But I guess N-pulse, Delteria and Atlantis with their fewer than 10 players average get priority. :p

Darlene159 02-05-2007 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by konidias (Post 1273394)
That is so prejudice. >_<

But I guess N-pulse, Delteria and Atlantis with their fewer than 10 players average get priority. :p

Last I looked, N-Pulse gets more than 10 players daily, but what does that have to do with anything?

Lord Sephiroth 02-05-2007 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Darlene159 (Post 1273402)
Last I looked, N-Pulse gets more than 10 players daily, but what does that have to do with anything?

Sorry, 11*.

Well no that might be exaggerating, but most days (Non-Tourny Days), it barely breaks 30 for more than an hour.

I don't really care what that has to do with the thread, I just saw an open chance to discuss how terrible N-Pulse is so I took it.

konidias 02-05-2007 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Darlene159 (Post 1273402)
Last I looked, N-Pulse gets more than 10 players daily, but what does that have to do with anything?

I said average. If you were to average the playercount of N-Pulse in a 24 hour period of time. It's most likely around 10. It's got 11 whole players and it's 6pm Eastern US time on a weekend. Compared to UN which has like 13 times the amount of players. I'm not talking about the maximum players N-Pulse is getting at it's peak time.

edit: It has everyting to do with the subject at hand. Why should a practically dead server get priority over a very lively developing server? It's really not a big deal to me. Zokemon has contacted me already since I made the post.

I just don't see why you're going to object to my claim other than your bias towards the server since you've previously managed it. If a server is getting less than a dozen players at 6pm on a weekend (and it's not a foreign server), then it's failing to hold player's attention.

Even 30 people... that's less people than you see walking around a Wal-Mart at any given time. This game is online and accessible to millions of people all over the world and N-Pulse is pulling in a whopping 30 of them.

zokemon 02-05-2007 01:11 AM

We only need N-Pulse, Valikorlia and Shaded Legend now. Just got Atlantis and Bomy Island :)

Andy0687 02-05-2007 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by zokemon (Post 1273366)
I spent a good half hour at least explaining the entire system to Spryte and all I asked out of her was to attend a simple meeting after which she could leave if she wanted. She still said no. I don't want to degrade anyones character but I don't sense to much intelligence around those parts.

One thing I can say after this is I have found a new respect for Spryte. I was hoping at least one server would not join.

They are the Behemoth of the serverlist, and if they dont feel like getting involved, they dont have to. I think it will be interesting to see what kind of backlash you can manage to dish out to Spryte for not involving herself or her server.

I dunno I think it was a good move, someone has to go against the flow to either prove it was a bad idea, or prove it was a good one, right?

Why not them? That dosent make them any less intellegent because they didnt want to accept your idea =/

Lord Sephiroth 02-05-2007 02:32 AM

BABYLON REFUSES!


rite james?

Darlene159 02-05-2007 02:52 AM

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Originally Posted by konidias (Post 1273416)
I just don't see why you're going to object to my claim other than your bias towards the server since you've previously managed it. If a server is getting less than a dozen players at 6pm on a weekend (and it's not a foreign server), then it's failing to hold player's attention.

Even 30 people... that's less people than you see walking around a Wal-Mart at any given time. This game is online and accessible to millions of people all over the world and N-Pulse is pulling in a whopping 30 of them.

Why are you getting so upset? I just asked a question. Based on my observations, Npulse has more players through the week at night (eastern time), and it seems to me the average is higher then 10. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. I just don't know what it has to do with anything as it seems this is being done to help Graal as a whole, and seems it shouldn't be about who has the most playercount. *shrugs* I could be wrong...

Andy0687 02-05-2007 03:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Lord Sephiroth (Post 1273440)
BABYLON REFUSES!


rite james?

I already dont think im allowed into their club anyways x_x

Devil 02-05-2007 03:09 AM

I'm happy that Spryte said no aswell, don't attack her intelligence because she said no?

I was so right about this thread/idea, you can't attack someone like that just because they said no to your idea, this doesn't mean they're not smart lol...

konidias 02-05-2007 03:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Darlene159 (Post 1273443)
Why are you getting so upset? I just asked a question. Based on my observations, Npulse has more players through the week at night (eastern time), and it seems to me the average is higher then 10. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. I just don't know what it has to do with anything as it seems this is being done to help Graal as a whole, and seems it shouldn't be about who has the most playercount. *shrugs* I could be wrong...

I'm not upset at all... I just answered your question. In order for the meeting to have any success, you'll need people there who know how to attract players and what works and what doesn't. It's obvious that the managers of the servers with 10 average players don't seem to fully understand this.

I don't really care to hear what some manager thinks about getting players when they can't do it themselves. Get it?

zokemon 02-05-2007 03:13 AM

I wasn't attacking her intelligence because she said no. There are many other reasons.

Devil 02-05-2007 03:20 AM

I couldn't care less, you're showing immaturity by saying things like that, when in fact someone in charge of something like this, should be acting as mature as possible, you're killing your own credibility here son.

Rufus 02-05-2007 03:21 AM

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Originally Posted by zokemon (Post 1273451)
I wasn't attacking her intelligence because she said no. There are many other reasons.

I've spoken to a few people and she may be coming, if not Skrobo will be taking her place in representing Unholy Nation ^^

konidias 02-05-2007 03:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Devil (Post 1273453)
I couldn't care less, you're showing immaturity by saying things like that, when in fact someone in charge of something like this, should be acting as mature as possible, you're killing your own credibility here son.

Calling him "son" is hurting the chances of anyone even caring what you have to say. Not to be getting on your case again, but if you're going to point this stuff out with other people, I find it necessary to point out your flawed logic.

Calling someone "son" or "kid" or "junior" is just showing that you're trying to demean him and place him underneath you in terms of intelligence or superiority or maturity.

Andy0687 02-05-2007 03:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Rufus (Post 1273455)
I've spoken to a few people and she may be coming, if not Skrobo will be taking her place in representing Unholy Nation ^^

Thats dissapointing news to say the least, I hope she dosent go, or if someone tries to do what she dosent want, that she does not back down and takes care of them.

Expecially after what he has said about her.

Rufus 02-05-2007 04:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Andy0687 (Post 1273458)
Thats dissapointing news to say the least, I hope she dosent go, or if someone tries to do what she dosent want, that she does not back down and takes care of them.

Expecially after what he has said about her.

What difference does it make to you, really?


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