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excaliber7388 01-26-2007 04:24 PM

The fact that you seem to know everything?
And think you're better/right because of it?
People aren't happy, get it?

Darlene159 01-26-2007 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by excaliber7388 (Post 1269768)
The fact that you seem to know everything?
And think you're better/right because of it?
People aren't happy, get it?

*shakes head*
I'm not replying to you anymore. You aren't even reading what I am saying, and only looking for openings to insult me.

excaliber7388 01-26-2007 04:29 PM

You provide them to easily.
Oh, and you ignored my post, you know the whole "unhappy customers" part.

Crono 01-26-2007 04:31 PM

Cali man just chill for a while. One thing I've learned over the year is to keep the arguments in an appropriate thread/time. You guys gotta realize when arguing with mods is going to be useful and when it's just going to be stupid and useless.

It's useful when you have a thread like before when Stefan or someone similar posts because then you can have some kind of debate or argument. But in a thread like this, Cali, it's just useless and annoying. Sides, I think we can agree that Moonie isn't really the main problem.

Sam 01-26-2007 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Gerami (Post 1269772)
Cali man just chill for a while. One thing I've learned over the year is to keep the arguments in an appropriate thread/time. You guys gotta realize when arguing with mods is going to be useful and when it's just going to be stupid and useless.

It's useful when you have a thread like before when Stefan or someone similar posts because then you can have some kind of debate or argument. But in a thread like this, Cali, it's just useless and annoying. Sides, I think we can agree that Moonie isn't really the main problem.

I agree.

excaliber7388 01-26-2007 04:47 PM

Moonie isn't the source of the problem, no.
She doesn't need to be so strict, however.
And she does excise the power of the mods too much.
But the most blame lies with the guy who almost never posts...Unix

zell12 01-26-2007 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gerami (Post 1269772)
Cali man just chill for a while. One thing I've learned over the year is to keep the arguments in an appropriate thread/time. You guys gotta realize when arguing with mods is going to be useful and when it's just going to be stupid and useless.

It's useful when you have a thread like before when Stefan or someone similar posts because then you can have some kind of debate or argument. But in a thread like this, Cali, it's just useless and annoying. Sides, I think we can agree that Moonie isn't really the main problem.

Wait for it.... wait for it....



Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam (Post 1269775)
I agree.



lol

Googi 01-26-2007 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by excaliber7388 (Post 1269778)
She doesn't need to be so strict, however.

Stop using overly abstract terms like "strict". It doesn't matter how "strict" or not "strict" a moderator is. There are good moderations and there are bad moderations. What we want is to get rid of the bad moderations, nobody cares about some arbitrary measure like "strictness".

Infernix 01-26-2007 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darlene159 (Post 1269769)
*shakes head*
I'm not replying to you anymore. You aren't even reading what I am saying, and only looking for openings to insult me.

You follow Unixmads commands you yet you get nothing out of it except the hatred of others. Nice life you live.

Sam 01-26-2007 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Infernix (Post 1269883)
You follow Unixmads commands you yet you get nothing out of it except the hatred of others. Nice life you live.

Yes, we are sitting at home and crying all the time, because we feel so hated...

excaliber7388 01-26-2007 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam (Post 1269888)
Yes, we are sitting at home and crying all the time, because we feel so hated...

If you don't you should.

Evenglare 01-26-2007 10:08 PM

lol why does excaliber think hes a somebody on these boards

excaliber7388 01-26-2007 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Evenglare (Post 1269896)
lol why does excaliber think hes a somebody on these boards

LOL WHY DO YOU? caps

Spark910 01-26-2007 10:18 PM

I'm sure its already been said, but creating a new layer of authority, making communication even more complex isn't the way to fix problems people may see.

Lets face it, people have issues with set moderators for whatever reason, and those people are not going to be happy until they are gone. The idealistic idea of someone who overrules everything they do is unlikely to happen, as anyone put in such a position will have to co-operate with the moderators (and vice versa) and I'm pretty sure nothing much will change to satisfy those who are not currently satisfied.

Twinny 01-26-2007 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by excaliber7388 (Post 1269895)
If you don't you should.

Why do you send any progress backwards?

Evenglare 01-26-2007 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by excaliber7388 (Post 1269898)
LOL WHY DO YOU? caps

because i know what gender i am

dude2020 01-26-2007 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by excaliber7388 (Post 1269895)
If you don't you should.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evenglare (Post 1269896)
lol why does excaliber think hes a somebody on these boards

ok, really ima laugh at you both when this thread get's closed and we have 2 or more to blame... (i didn't read the rest of the thread...)

zell12 01-26-2007 10:56 PM

My brotheren of thy sword, cease communication with darlene, you are not going to make any progress. Let's start on SAM. :)

excaliber7388 01-26-2007 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twinny (Post 1269905)
Why do you send any progress backwards?

Lol, you believe in progress with the admins
Quote:

Originally Posted by Evenglare (Post 1269907)
because i know what gender i am

So do I, fool.

Devil 01-27-2007 03:36 AM

Just think about this, forum users.

Darlene and Sam have to quit/die/be fired some time. ;)

excaliber7388 01-27-2007 03:56 AM

You're RIGHT!
I bet if we wait 60 years, everything about Graal will be different!

Devil 01-27-2007 04:05 AM

Considering Moonie doesn't have another 60 years left in her, and you need to stop riding Graal's balls alot Excal, you're putting too much time and effort into something people are going to forget about in a couple of days.

Go get a job or something.

Tyhm 01-27-2007 04:22 AM

You know what else'd be cool?

If the forum administrator could forward the more popular ideas to Stefan. So instead of hoping he sees one of the 99 mentions of his name on the forums, begging for this or that, he just says "Hey Moonie, any prayers for me today?" and she can be all "Well, Excal didn't have anything nice to say about you, your country, or your mother, but he did come up with a few ideas for mac development tools" and Stefan can be all "D'oh! I knew I forgot something! Tell him if he can make me the frontend for it and comment in what he wants the buttons to do I'll just translate over the PC version and get it finished when I can", and then, you know, stuff'll get done.

'cuz PMing takes forever. Seriously. I'm lucky if I get 1 response out of 10, never with a Read Receipt, and even then it takes a couple weeks to a month. If he's busy, the system should take that into account.

Devil 01-27-2007 04:27 AM

Screw talking about the ideas, Graal won't put them up, or work on them, and that causes them a loss of money and wages. That's their problem.

If they actually listened to players, they would make more money. So essentially they're screwing themselves over.

Darlene159 01-27-2007 04:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Devil (Post 1270004)
Considering Moonie doesn't have another 60 years left in her

How do you know? I could live to be 101. people have done it before.>_<

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tyhm (Post 1270010)
You know what else'd be cool?

If the forum administrator could forward the more popular ideas to Stefan. So instead of hoping he sees one of the 99 mentions of his name on the forums, begging for this or that, he just says "Hey Moonie, any prayers for me today?" and she can be all "Well, Excal didn't have anything nice to say about you, your country, or your mother, but he did come up with a few ideas for mac development tools" and Stefan can be all "D'oh! I knew I forgot something! Tell him if he can make me the frontend for it and comment in what he wants the buttons to do I'll just translate over the PC version and get it finished when I can", and then, you know, stuff'll get done.

'cuz PMing takes forever. Seriously. I'm lucky if I get 1 response out of 10, never with a Read Receipt, and even then it takes a couple weeks to a month. If he's busy, the system should take that into account.

Stefan reads that stuff. He spends a great deal of time looking in the future improvement section, tech support, etc....

Devil 01-27-2007 04:31 AM

Your fear of where you live for one, stress can and will cause an early death, or the people breaking into your house going from a simple burg to a murder scene.

Anyway.

Darlene159 01-27-2007 04:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Devil (Post 1270016)
Your fear of where you live for one, stress can and will cause an early death, or the people breaking into your house going from a simple burg to a murder scene.

Anyway.

Pfft, it is like that everywhere, I definately don't stress over it. I live in a nice area compared to alot of places.

ViperZakuto 01-27-2007 04:36 AM

i see there was only 3 people that agree with this thread. I have been in many discussions on these forums. Only one or two of the threads have been deleted.

instead of demanding how rules are inforced. why not read the rules and try not to break them? I didn't really have a hard time doing that.

You don't have to read it all word for word. Most of it is commen since.a lot of the rules are about having good "manners"
which it seems most people have lost these days.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam (Post 1269888)
Yes, we are sitting at home and crying all the time, because we feel so hated...

lol at that, i had a good laugh. =D

pooper200000 01-27-2007 04:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darlene159 (Post 1270017)
Pfft, it is like that everywhere, I definately don't stress over it. I live in a nice area compared to alot of places.

sometimes people enjoy going on long vacations from there home. you should look into that. Get a sewing hobby? :D

Darlene159 01-27-2007 04:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pooper200000 (Post 1270019)
sometimes people enjoy going on long vacations from there home. you should look into that. Get a sewing hobby? :D

I am, this year sometime, probably in the summer, for a week or two, and I hate to sew.

pooper200000 01-27-2007 04:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darlene159 (Post 1270021)
I am, this year sometime, probably in the summer, for a week or two, and I hate to sew.

knit? eat? well you should because you look to skinny? baking? you can get rich off that. I hope you don't leave too long or else Ill have no one to argue with me. :cry: sam doesn't count because hes too good at arguing.

Infernix 01-27-2007 04:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ViperZakuto (Post 1270018)
i see there was only 3 people that agree with this thread. I have been in many discussions on these forums. Only one or two of the threads have been deleted.

instead of demanding how rules are inforced. why not read the rules and try not to break them? I didn't really have a hard time doing that.

You don't have to read it all word for word. Most of it is commen since.a lot of the rules are about having good "manners"
which it seems most people have lost these days.



lol at that, i had a good laugh. =D

Your 262 post show it for sure, maybe you should just check the first page of each section of the forums and look at the locks on the side.

Tyhm 01-27-2007 04:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darlene159 (Post 1270015)
How do you know? I could live to be 101. people have done it before.>_<

Yeah, every day on the Today Show, Willard Scott wishes another bunch happy birthday. (Man, is Willard Scott still alive?)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Darlene159 (Post 1270015)
Stefan reads that stuff. He spends a great deal of time looking in the future improvement section, tech support, etc....

1) He's overworked as it is - but I'm not about to tell him how to spend his time, I'm not the boss of him.
2) He doesn't have the time to respond, thus his passage goes largely unmarked. Maybe if there was a feature for "This thread has been viewed 297867 times. This thread has been viewed by Stefan.", it'd help - we'd at least know he knows what we're talking about, and we can hope exactly as fervently that he thinks it's a good idea and will be in the next version.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Darlene159 (Post 1270021)
I am, this year sometime, probably in the summer, for a week or two, and I hate to sew.

You should, it's fun. I was thinking of making plush Graalians a few years ago. Easy enough once you get down the pattern - almost all the heads are just recolors and modifications of Fung Si Yan or Anime Girl or I Has A Helmet, and there are only so many body-files on the Classicstyle servers. Other servers is(are?) where it gets complicated.

Devil 01-27-2007 04:52 AM

OH SORRY IF ONE OF THE MEMBERS WENT OFF OF TOPIC, THEY'D GET THE ASS FROM THE FORUMS.

But pooper and Darlene? Who is here to enforce the rules ON Darlene..

ViperZakuto 01-27-2007 04:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Infernix (Post 1270024)
Your 262 post show it for sure, maybe you should just check the first page of each section of the forums and look at the locks on the side.

ok... maybe people should be more "mature". I don't think i know any four year olds who play graal... but i know a lot of graalians who act like it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Devil (Post 1270032)
OH SORRY IF ONE OF THE MEMBERS WENT OFF OF TOPIC, THEY'D GET THE ASS FROM THE FORUMS.

But pooper and Darlene? Who is here to enforce the rules ON Darlene..

I don't see her breaking any rules. If unix thought she was doing a bad job. We wouldn't see her anymore. So therefore in the eyes of unix she is doing a good job. so i suggest you take this up with him.

Infernix 01-27-2007 05:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ViperZakuto (Post 1270037)
ok... maybe people should be more "mature". I don't think i know any four year olds who play graal... but i know a lot of graalians who act like it.



I don't see her breaking any rules. If unix thought she was doing a bad job. We wouldn't see her anymore. So therefore in the eyes of unix she is doing a good job. so i suggest you take this up with him.

Just like people fight to change laws in every country for the right of man, the people on graal have the right to fight for a change in rules for the right of its players.

A lot of people didn't women to vote and I'm sure a lot of people said the same thing. "Just follow the law" Not the best example but hopefully you get the point. Call all these people immature just because they want a change if you want.

Devil 01-27-2007 05:14 AM

Viper is just sucking up to administration.

Don't waste your time replying to him, because he won't take on board what you just said.

GodCoder 01-27-2007 05:56 AM

It seems to me there needs to be someone to moderate the moderators. From what I have seen they are doing a bad job. They have split the forums up.. yeh, that's really a good job.

excaliber7388 01-27-2007 06:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GodCoder (Post 1270061)
It seems to me there needs to be someone to moderate the moderators. From what I have seen they are doing a bad job. They have split the forums up.. yeh, that's really a good job.

New guy's pretty smart ;)
Let's keep him.

ZanderX 01-27-2007 08:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GodCoder (Post 1270061)
It seems to me there needs to be someone to moderate the moderators. From what I have seen they are doing a bad job. They have split the forums up.. yeh, that's really a good job.

So you want a moderator moderator?

Oh wait, you mean a super moderator. Oh wait, we have two of those. Someone to moderate the super moderators? Do you mean administrators? We have two of those two!

Someone to administrate the administrators? Why, gosh, we could call them super administrators! Or maybe just the owners.


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