Kindly click here.

:rolleyes:

Why would that be necessary?

Sure I would never learn 3D things, and make 3D things if I havent seen your work before. Couse I liked so much that I had to learn it. The idea of a sphere, you can trust me I didnt copy you. Since I made the whole engine to read face index.. And vertex index.. So To make a sphere we use a special math form to put the whole vertex and face in their position, I got from a book, the same I used to the cube or the cylinder.. I could put the whole information, like I made when I imported that Astronaut to my script. But with these equations the script is smaller. But I copied the idea of the light in mouse. Since I dont remember seeing it in other place.. Probably I got from you the idea. I also copied from you the idea of learning 3D, and post the code here. I really like your work, I just dont like how you act, just read how you post, now started saying I copied you, not sure y.. but ok, I will respect. But its my own opinion, everybody can have the own opinion about someone.

Because you did, and because it justifies my original implication that you did.

It should be taken to PMs because it's gone way of topic..

It's more about flaming than about the 3D topic itself. Just give it a rest, I know none of you will admit if you're right or wrong.. I can see this thread in it's 60-70 pages if it dosn't get closed.

I think i asked you something? I did not affirm anything. I never said that you said that there was something wrong on it.

[sarcasm] Oh yea, monkeys can't read very well.[/sarcasm]

You're right Wan, this is all PM material. But think of it this way, if they can do it SO CAN WE!!11

If we do it, we get banned Crono. ^^

This has not been demonstrated.

No.

That would be because you lack the capability to judge when it is or is not more appropriate to PM someone. Discusson of a server's website pornography is PM material. What you consider to be offtopic posting is not.

Lance don't blame this crap what you've started on me.
Discussion going off topic is also a rule, is it not?

So what are you doing now bub?

In the history of the forums, it has not been.

I am posting a reply, and then I am going to probably look at some other threads. I haven't decided just yet.

Oh god you're more *****ic than I had thought.

Oh look what moonie has said in another thread!

Darlene159
I will say this one more time, no more talk of the Loriel incident, back on topic...I dont want to have to close this thread. The topic is about the new picture tag thingy's

For one, PM is what that would be for, even if your global. If you read the posts... "the I implied" part... Kai had corrected me, because I used the wrong wording, it was meant to be "I inferred". Like I said, you havent followed it or read them.
At one time both of you are jumping on me about the same thing, that is a double team. Its not "your out to get me". Kai stopped/didnt start doing the nuub flaming things and we have had quite a casual discussion. You seemed to insist on telling me the same thing, im dumb, childish, stupid, etc.,. Which is pretty hypocritical if I would say so myself. Mainly because you either havent read or dont understand it. It appears you havent been reading. I will pm you the explanation if you want it and I will "clear it up for you". So you can rest in peace. Let me know if you want it.

Your suggested course of action -> possibly apologize -> admit your fault -> read through again if you wish to continue to post -> follow your own advice (cease childish behavior) -> contribute to the discussion.

If your too good for that -> Exit -> Learn Respect -> Learn that nobody is always right, not even yourself -> Find better ways to talk to people -> Consider different thought processes -> Return -> Then begin first chain

But since you insist on posting what you did, I shall reply for the thread readers to follow... but for the relevance to the topic

vvvvv
to Kai: Do you have any kind of levels or imgs to post?

Naturally this is an excellent, valid point.

Except that happens to be a post, not a rule. Nice try, though.

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Except I had pointed that out as well. I am quite on track, here.

But when I asked how we were double-teaming you, you said that the double team was not directed at you, but at Amon-Ra. Here is the contradictory part that does not make sense.

You are what you are. However, once you have identified your problems, you will be well along the road to solving them.

Except here you show that you do not at all understand the meaning of the word hypocrisy.

I'm sorry, but if you had been reading as you claim, you would have made a reply much like this one about 4-5 posts ago.

You have 'cleared it up' just fine by illustrating the contradiction between what you said and what you think you said/meant.

I do not plan on dying anytime soon.

I don't.

Hey, you didn't follow mine, why should you expect me to follow yours?

If she's used it in that thread, I believe it's allowed in any topic.

HAHA!

Directing one thread is not the same as there existing a rule for all threads.

I am glad your foolish tirades amuse yourself so much.

Uh Lance, if Moonie can lock threads that are off topic then she could lock this one. Now, if she has the right to do so then something's wrong..possibly just shaving a rule? If not then whats the point of complaining about off topic when it's not against any rules?

If something is off topic could it be considered spam?

That's her prerogative as a supermod, but we haven't exactly broken any rules here from the topic shifting, man.

The precedent has been that folks (folks being either the thread creator or a moderator) can request that a thread be held on-topic from the onset. In that event, off-topic posts can be dealt with accordingly. However, this has not occured here. If you make a thread and it doesn't go the way you want it to, you're not allowed to go back and say "Hey, wait, you can't go this way." (unless, of course, you are a nifty supermod and can do that - not to say that it should be done without some compelling reason, though). It already has gone.

It depends. If the topic of the thread is shifting, then the off-topic post is by definition off of the original topic, but it is by assumption still relevant to the thread and thus not spam. That make sense?

Then why did you continue to bring it up when it was already corrected?
Dragging it on? Trying to add to your list of flame bull.

Your telling me not to be childish, yet, you are being childish because of the way your telling me about it...
Specifically the overused flame tactic. The guessed reason of WHY you are doing that is because you havent read/followed/understood everything. Yes I know very well how the word hypocrisy is used and what it means. I dont feel like getting into extreme depth with you, about what you dont understand because of your oneway mindset, pride, and stubbornness.

There is another example of the narrowmindedness... there are other meanings.

How about being uneasy... If you are uneasy, you will rest uneasy.
1+1=2 but so does 1x2. Consider the other possibilities...broaden your mind. ;)

Mine was sarcastic and mocking your other flame tactic. If it werent ridiculous enough for you to have posted it in the first place... since you do flame alot I would have figured you were better at it than using the comeback you just gave... *I asked you first* x_x

I would go indepth on everything just to show you how wrong you are but I dont want to embarrass you and plus by then, this thread will be closed. Its just too bad you didnt catch it and had to start ranting about my VALID point.

Lance: Global: Making up excuses or using loopholes to why he is allowed to stray: Full of crap

I admit, should be PM. But if he's gonna post to me, I will reply.

Amon-Ra did you like develop Kai's idea or did you do it completely on your own? I didnt catch that.

I'm going to go with the "You persisted in having no idea what I was talking about, so I had to repeat myself until you managed to figure it out" option. I figured that if we talked about it for a while, you'd figure out what I was referring to. And, thankfully, you did. It just took several posts.

How am I being childish? I am trying to have an intelligent discussion, and instead of responding to my points you are simply dismissing them with a bunch of rhetoric.

Except nowhere am I flaming you, good sir. What you may be referring to are nothing more than appropriately-applied labels, and neither flame nor attack.

You may know its definition, but you do not seem to understand its use.

Of course I'm proud. I have quite a few reasons to be. However, your other allegations are pretty baseless. As I have asked you before: either provide some iota of proof for your statements, or be prepared to justify them when they are challenged.

It shall be duly noted that it was an attempt at humor. But I am the one who is narrowminded about other meanings. ;)

The derivative of x ^ 2 is 2x, and so is the derivative of x ^ 2 + 1. I can throw simple math equalities right back at you, but I don't think it's really accomplishing anything in either direction.

And mine was mocking yours. I guess you didn't see that, though.

Hey, you posted some more:

I'm not sure about that. Most of your posts so far have seemed to be with the intent to embarrass or cause trouble for those evil scripters you made that thread about.

What, the incoherent, contradictory one?

You missed the point: I don't have to make up an excuse. The rules are the rules.

I do find your posts specifically to me telling me Im dumb or my point is invalid is quite hot to me.


I just proved your claim here wrong, but you still dont get it, but whatever. Everyone else does. They got it the first time Im sure.

Ive shown you several examples but your to stubborn to admit to them.
I dont think you will either, (should you? yes) so I suppose I would have better luck with a wall.
Not the best timing but at another juncture, sure.

I hope your joking...


Even so, "Im mocking your mock that is mocking me." -simplified Lance
[sarcasm]Good one![/sarcasm]


My thread was taken to heart by a lot of people. Actually, I am quite impressed with Kai, who I recall was also posting against me in that thread.

If its just you that dont get it, and you dont want me to PM to explain it, drop it. Your never gonna get it and admit to it because your too stubborn. Your digging a deeper hole < kinda punny with the previous posts.

Yeah ok.

If you aren't, then stop acting that way. It does not help you, nor does it acquire you any amount of pity.

I thought Kaimetsu already explained to you (and you agreed) that numbers are irrelevant. Why, then, do you still try to pass it off as valid reasoning...?

Additionally, you neither proved me wrong nor do you have the support and understanding of 'everyone'.

No, you haven't. You just keep saying the same tripe over and over again.

I do agree that you will have better luck with a wall. Connect your head with it several times.

But you predictably missed the point, again. You called me narrowminded for not accepting that there were other possible ways to read something, yet you did not follow your own advice. That is the point.

I was illustrating in my own way the lack of relevance of your example.

Sigh. I am beginning to think you are a lost cause.

Except that it lacked validity, so anyone who took it to heart was either pretty gullible, pretty ignorant, or some combination of the two.

Because he wasn't around to point out your stupidity in this thread? That's a pretty pathetic reason to respect someone.

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Sigh. Look, I will put this all very simply. Do not excuse your slowness and misunderstanding as "no you didn't understand." That doesn't work. You screwed up. You made an incorrect statement sparking this whole discussion by saying that Kaimetsu and I were doubleteaming you. Then, you corrected yourself by saying that the double team was not directed at you, but at Amon-Ra. Next, you said that neither was correct, and I had no idea what you were talking about. Finally, you indicated that the original statement was the proper one (and that Kaimetsu and I had double-teamed you in this thread somehow, which I already responded to in my initial post about this). You still insist that there is no contradiction whatsoever. This is my problem. You have fought me every step of the way instead of acknowledging that one of these was the meaning you intended:

a) You meant exactly what you said the first time in the first post. Kaimetsu and I double-teamed you. Choosing this possibility is noting that your correction was a mistake. It also notes that my first reply about Kaimetsu and I double-teaming you was completely valid, and admits that I have been "with it" for the duration of this post.
b) You meant the correction. Kaimetsu and I double-teamed Amon-Ra, not you. Choosing this possibility notes that my reply to your correction was valid, and admits that I have been "with it" since you made that correction.
c) You meant neither of these. Choosing this possibilty will result in me replying stating that there is no way I could have figured out your meaning from your original post, as it impossible to determine what you meant without some sort of magic spell, because it certainly was not visible in your post.

I dunno about you Lance. Practically everything you have just addressed here has already been covered. Either you REALLY like to drag things on until you are totally pinned to the ground or you really dont get it. You seem to be quick to tell me of my "lack of knowledge" and your "superior intelligence" but you have quite proved the opposite. When you ask for proof, all I would simply do is post quotes. If you were intelligent enough as you say/think you are, you would just read? I also find it funny you bring up the old thread. You think I am "out to get you" and think im here to "embarrass" you. Whatever embarrassment you feel is because you are digging a hole by dragging this on. If I were out to get you "evil scripters", wouldnt I be attacking Kaimetsu also?? Seems to me Kai and I are having a perfectly normal conversation. Your just being paranoid.

I stopped reading at the last 2 posts. Dear god.

I leave this thread talking about a fun machine thinking we are all happy and see what happens ?

Now I've had read and illusion guy, you are totally wrong. It's amazing how you continuously use things "you inferred" as a basis of an arguement. If someone tells you things about 8 times, please begin to understand it, as it becomes annoying for the rest of us.

As for going off topic, no their is no rule. Moonie is just being dumb and not knowing her own rules.

Pick one of the three.

Don't be stupid. Illiterate though you may be, I doubt even you could express yourself quite so poorly. You were clearly implying that I had disapproved of his actions.

Of my sphere? Yeah, here's the original level. But you're taking the blame if certain people think I'm turning this into a thread about me.

Surely I have already answered this.

It turns out Lance deleted my 2nd to last post and warned me. I find that to be a rather LARGE error on his part. One, there was nothing obsene. I left that WIDE open, HIS imagination made it what it was. Two, because it had my rebuttle to him and also to the other person who said something about me being wrong. Three you can shove that warning right up your x_x , I did nothing wrong. You should be suspended.

I find it very breathtaking that you have nothing else to resort to other than to delete my responses. That is clear sign of defeat. I hope people see what your doing, haha. :asleep:

If you look at the code, Amon used Brazillian names to name his script, whilst Kai probably used mathmatical terms..

So yes, he probably did code it himself.

Lance spams.

Sigh. The forums, much like life, are not about 'winning' or 'losing'. You were obscene, you know you were obscene, and your post was deleted for being obscene. Deal with it.

Oh, sorry Lance. But arn't your posts 'obscene'? :\

I made completely on my own.. Make a sphere is like draw a circle in a paper.. everybody can make.. and alot of peopla make it.. In 3D world the first thing you make is a cube.. second is a sphere.. Pretty ridiculus saying someone copied someone.. I just dont know how to stop this.. couse Kaimetsu´s brain is pretty strange.. I said "ok you own" to see if he stop.. but he never stop.. also this thread is too off-topic.. I will ask to my friend close it for me.. So if you people wanna talk about stupid things use "Non-Graal-related threads" forums.. This one is not talking about 3D since the 1st page.

Thanks for all comments.. and sorry for anything..
Hope you people like alitlle bit more of 3D