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HunterTerryon 08-30-2003 02:22 AM

Who the heck are you to judge my skill? take a glance at your own playerworld the graphics are terrible they disgust me It could be I just personally hate the style but there might be more to it than that.Currently I am not working anywhere but I am planning something huge that will leave you shocked once it is released.That is all I have to say.


-Good day,Tony Rivers

Soul-Blade 08-30-2003 04:12 AM

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Originally posted by HunterTerryon
Who the heck are you to judge my skill? take a glance at your own playerworld the graphics are terrible they disgust me It could be I just personally hate the style but there might be more to it than that.Currently I am not working anywhere but I am planning something huge that will leave you shocked once it is released.That is all I have to say.


-Good day,Tony Rivers

Well, considering you posted your graphics, and they were about average in the graal community, and considering I am a little more known for my graphics (and could make 100x superior graphics then what you have shown) then I think I am a pretty good judge.

How many times have I heard people will say they will create something amazing, better then anything out? More then enough to know they are always full of crap.

HunterTerryon 08-30-2003 04:24 AM

ok mr amazing enlighten me with your astounding graphics I mean since you must be a gift to graal from the gods above and your 100x better than me...BUT since you have nothing to show other than your very ugly avatar that looks like something my cat barfed up then I won't hear anything you have to say.Also I will state that I am still learning graphics its hard to cross over from manga and anime to making pixel graphics for a game but I will try hard and who knows maybe some day I will be as good as you and your perfect graphics of which I am not worthy to see.

Deek2 08-30-2003 05:39 AM

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Originally posted by Soul-Blade


But see, the thing is, people can make there own things. Me and Konidias already tried to have a side project working together, but it didn't work out (the same day we started, might I add). But that doesn't mean we can't both make something great.

The fact is, those who are making their own PW are able. Myself, Konidias, G-Yoshi, Mad Martigan (And Team, Giltwist), they are able to make everything need. I can make everything, Konidias can make everything except script, and he isn't bad, but still gets help, G-Yoshi I think can do everything, Obvious with Mad Martigan. As far as I am concerned, Oasis, Doragon Koden, and Tribulation and (arrogantly) my own world are the only ones in the category of new and original, and in a quality class far above the rest. Right now, I see a bunch of people copying styles, and all around not understanding how to create a quality PW. Graphics truly are only 1 aspect, probably about 10-20% of what people think. The rest comes with gameplay, storyline, etc. There are a few exceptions to my list, such as Angel's classified project looks amazingly promising.

Sorry to be blunt, but the rest will either never finish, release and be trash like PWs online, or end up semi-good like Era but nothing compared to the originals still being created.

Went a little off track, but the point is, and I think the people I listed above (Konidias, G-Yoshi, etc) would agree with me (just not arrogant enough to say it) that you are not in the same league as us. Stop saying you are. It is annoying me.

Must of what you said is true, but not all of it. Anyone with enough willpower and skill can pull off there own playerworld if they put enough time and effort into it. From what I'm getting, you're saying only people with advanced skill (and know what they are doing) can make a good playerworld. You don't need skill to make a creative playerworld, skill doesn't give you that. You need to be creative to make a creative playerworld, and your scripting knowledge and how well you draw doesn't cling to how creative you can be.
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HunterTerryon: ok mr amazing enlighten me with your astounding graphics I mean since you must be a gift to graal from the gods above and your 100x better than me...BUT since you have nothing to show other than your very ugly avatar that looks like something my cat barfed up then I won't hear anything you have to say.Also I will state that I am still learning graphics its hard to cross over from manga and anime to making pixel graphics for a game but I will try hard and who knows maybe some day I will be as good as you and your perfect graphics of which I am not worthy to see.
How can you say this? You just contradicted yourself by saying your still learning to do graphics. Soul Blade knows very well what he is doing, while you still are learning baby steps. You can't tell him that his graphics are bad when you yourself can't do graphics at all.

Judge_S 08-30-2003 08:00 AM

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Originally posted by HunterTerryon
ok mr amazing enlighten me with your astounding graphics I mean since you must be a gift to graal from the gods above and your 100x better than me...
You do realize you're asking gim to do something that seemingly cannot be done? You are being stuck up, and set to your ways. You let no chance for change.

superb 08-30-2003 08:05 AM

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Originally posted by HunterTerryon
ok mr amazing enlighten me with your astounding graphics I mean since you must be a gift to graal from the gods above and your 100x better than me...BUT since you have nothing to show other than your very ugly avatar that looks like something my cat barfed up then I won't hear anything you have to say.Also I will state that I am still learning graphics its hard to cross over from manga and anime to making pixel graphics for a game but I will try hard and who knows maybe some day I will be as good as you and your perfect graphics of which I am not worthy to see.
You're judging his skills just on his avatar? Are you on crack? Soul's graphics rock.

MarkB 08-30-2003 08:38 PM

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Originally posted by superb


You're judging his skills just on his avatar? Are you on crack? Soul's graphics rock.


eep, wonder if he based deeks skill on his avatar too :rolleyes:

as for ps...no offense, but i heard you begged stefan to gst...that is sad dude

superb 08-30-2003 09:41 PM

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Originally posted by MarkB



eep, wonder if he based deeks skill on his avatar too :rolleyes:

as for ps...no offense, but i heard you begged stefan to gst...that is sad dude

Me? I'm not even a scripter.

HunterTerryon 08-30-2003 10:17 PM

well ive also seen some screens from his server they didnt impress me for all he brags then he dosn't have much to show.

Birdbird_0 08-30-2003 11:20 PM

You guys suck.


As Kaimetsu said:
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Whatever this secret team is making will not be NewWorld, except in name. It's not being made by the original crew, and it doesn't have the same amount of talent behind it.
I doubt anyone here could come close to the organization and effort put into that project.

Yeah, New_Gut and Kyle0654 were, They were ownage.

NewWorld just had such a good, I guess feeling about it, that no server has ever come close to, I don't think it's an Insult that people want to resurect it, but I doubt they could even come close to what it was.

MarkB 09-01-2003 04:20 AM

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Originally posted by Birdbird_0
You guys suck.


As Kaimetsu said:


I doubt anyone here could come close to the organization and effort put into that project.

Yeah, New_Gut and Kyle0654 were, They were ownage.

NewWorld just had such a good, I guess feeling about it, that no server has ever come close to, I don't think it's an Insult that people want to resurect it, but I doubt they could even come close to what it was.


*sigh* i dont know the whole story, did they just dump the project?

Judge_S 09-01-2003 06:23 AM

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Originally posted by MarkB



*sigh* i dont know the whole story, did they just dump the project?

Not officially. It just started slowing down, and continued until updates, private or public, were sparse.

draiden0 09-07-2003 09:05 PM

As long as you keep adding new stuff and don't stop I don't see the problem. Most people make 1 new graphic. Boast on it like it's the new order then never make anything beyond it. Of coarse it helps to have something like Photoshop.

Judge_S 09-07-2003 09:29 PM

I really don't think this thread needed to be brought back to life.

Deek2 09-07-2003 11:33 PM

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Originally posted by HunterTerryon
As for kinatt I am shure he worked there as he made part of the tile set if not all of it.Kinatt is one of those people who take everything with him hence the new world tiles on era.
Apparently this is not true. Kinatt requested me to point out that he did not work on NW at all. He was requested to join 3 times, all of which had been refused.

HunterTerryon 09-08-2003 10:11 AM

Well I know that kinatt is a person who makes something and then takes it whereever he goes.Thats why I thought it was him.Also if it wasnt him why are there nw tiles on era and who made them?

Tseng 09-08-2003 03:50 PM

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Originally posted by HunterTerryon
Well I know that kinatt is a person who makes something and then takes it whereever he goes.Thats why I thought it was him.Also if it wasnt him why are there nw tiles on era and who made them?
Eh, unixmad released NW material to servers who asked, there was a large argument about this quite some time ago.

Python523 09-08-2003 03:52 PM

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Originally posted by Tseng


Eh, unixmad released NW material to servers who asked, there was a large argument about this quite some time ago.

I think that was a going to release, I don't think he ever did

Python523 09-08-2003 03:53 PM

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Originally posted by MarkB



*sigh* i dont know the whole story, did they just dump the project?

kyle0654 left after unixmad posted that he was going to release all the NW materials

new_gut followed him a few days later

adam 09-08-2003 04:11 PM

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Originally posted by Python523


kyle0654 left after unixmad posted that he was going to release all the NW materials

new_gut followed him a few days later

:( Something I remember very very well.

Judge_S 09-09-2003 03:52 AM

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Originally posted by Python523
kyle0654 left after unixmad posted that he was going to release all the NW materials
Yes... That was the last straw. Boy was he angry.

DustyPorViva 09-09-2003 04:11 AM

Does anyone have pictures of NW?

I've only seen one and that was of some forest with a bridge and lighteffects.

I guess if you fear thieves you could PM me. I just want to see how NW actaully looked, and why people loved the GFX so much.

Judge_S 09-09-2003 04:19 AM

1 Attachment(s)
Here's an old level. Note that the transparencies didn't seem to work.
But, you get the general idea.

Deek2 09-09-2003 04:26 AM

I'd also volunteer to bring it back, thought I doubt it would happen.

HunterTerryon 09-09-2003 06:19 AM

Well If it does happen I might be willing to pick up the concept art and such where new_gut left off as for my skills I did some concept art for a mmorpg that died a while ago and I am waiting for a reply to see if I got a job designing original tattoos in anime style.But I don't have a scanner yet so it would cost me to scan stuff.

From that screenshot it looks as if new world had a cool thing going on but could use some improvement to bring it up to modern graal standards.But for that time it was VERY good and original.Also the best staffed server ever.

draiden0 09-09-2003 11:57 PM

A scanner is the best tool for a modern artist. The Hewlit scanners are pretty good and go for less than $100 now. I got mine for $50. Or you could get one of those computer pencil tools. But that may cost more than the scanner.

Judge_S 09-10-2003 03:19 AM

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Originally posted by draiden0
A scanner is the best tool for a modern artist. The Hewlit scanners are pretty good and go for less than $100 now. I got mine for $50. Or you could get one of those computer pencil tools. But that may cost more than the scanner.
A tablet. Most aren't as good as they sound.

davidpsy 09-10-2003 11:33 AM

I have a scanner but I dont use it I do all my graphic on the computer I wont say what program I use because you would all think I'm lieing. So lets just say I use a program that god uses to make his graphic.

HunterTerryon 09-10-2003 10:03 PM

Well I am thinking about getting a scanner but now all i have is a cheap logitech webcam =(


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