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NotoriousBLT 03-24-2002 04:15 AM

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Originally posted by Mman


1. Babord looks like ****, period.
2. Anything is better than compulsive PKing
3. How the hell do know how much skill I have
4. Oh making people walk long distances everywhere to make a quest harder is a good thing? LOL. Taking the warps out did nothing but add inconvenience.

1. No it doesn't, let's see you make a better town.
2. PKing is awesome, period.
3. Obviously you don't have much skill because you don't pk, and if you had alot of skill a good way to show it off is pking.
4. The quests on classic are perfect, they're long hard and confusing. Let's see you do better than Tyhm and his team.

ApEhAx 03-24-2002 06:22 AM

No Offense
 
no offense but i don relly like nay of them but if i had to choose it would be graal 2001 :) and i think graal 2002 is just a cheap rip off of what they have now becuase just putting the ghost mode is made some of my friends quit graal but any way

DarkPyro_2001 03-24-2002 06:41 AM

Remember people, I am not associated with this person known as "Fox Star 70". :rolleyes:

Mman 03-24-2002 12:22 PM

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Originally posted by NotoriousBLT

4. The quests on classic are perfect, they're long hard and confusing. Let's see you do better than Tyhm and his team.

Quests on Classic are *too* long, that's why I like the ones on UN, they're tough but short, you don't have to spend ages completing a quest.

Vincent_TK 03-24-2002 01:06 PM

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Originally posted by Mman


Quests on Classic are *too* long, that's why I like the ones on UN, they're tough but short, you don't have to spend ages completing a quest.

Classics quest actually take some effort! Wow! I forgot most of these 2001'ers want everything handed to them on a silver plate.

Common now, Classics quest arent even that long. There perfect length for online games. Your trying to pick a everything Classic has thats different from the others and make it look bad, when its actually good.

Bortlad 03-24-2002 01:48 PM

2k1 is just not even close to being as fun as classic

I played 2k1 a little on a firends account and saw that it was no fun. you had to get money to get things and getting money was just borring (this was in july-august 01)
I never planned on upgrading my own account because classic was just plain better.
but I was forced to upgrade mine to make a guild, i now have under 2 hours on 2k1 and almost 800 on classic
yeah there are some "neat" things on 2k1 but they get old fast and everyone pauses when you attack them :mad:

Tyhm 03-24-2002 02:15 PM

I'll see if I can rig up an old version of Classic as PW for those of you who love to winge about the good old days...

Psyker 03-24-2002 02:19 PM

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Originally posted by Tyhm
I'll see if I can rig up an old version of Classic as PW for those of you who love to winge about the good old days...
About this:

http://forums.graal2001.com/forums/s...756#post503756

konidias 03-24-2002 08:51 PM

::laughs::

Vincent you have such a GREAT plan there.. you say people on classic are mad because they don't get all the cool features like on 2k1, and you say that classic people should get those new features.. well, doesn't that COMPLETELY DEFEAT THE POINT OF PAYING?

If classic had all the features that 2k1 could have, no one would ever upgrade to see the lighting effects and play on servers with npc servers on them because ALL the servers would have all the features.. You aren't just paying to play 2k1 when you get an upgrade, you're paying to be able to play p2p servers with all the new features.

Classic used to be fun.. it is no longer fun. Vincent, you can defend it all you want, but I have been playing Graal for about 4 years and I have seen the good days of classic. I go on now to find nonstop pking.. I mean, seriously, pking is fun and all, but doing it for hours on end is not progress.. wow you get more kills.. big whip. I sat in angel clan (infamous pk area) and people just die as soon as they swing their sword once. People attack newbies like it's a sport, and that isn't making new players want to upgrade and play Graal more.

If you step on to classic with a fresh account, you don't know what the heck you're doing.. you manage to finally get gloves to lift up the rocks to get into the world, and then you get killed 500 times before you can blink. All the other people have max hearts, are faster, and stronger, and new players don't stand a chance. I remember when classic was all about guilds, guildwars, and sparring. THAT was fun.. now it is no longer fun.. especially because of all the cheaters. 95% of the people on classic cheat to get the stuff they have, so it's pointless.

When I went on I got a bunch of mass messages, things like "who wantz 2 cybur?" "i jurst peekayed thsis n00b har hra" "whoo wanst 2 join miy gild suprursayenl3e7guyz" "NE gurlz lookeng 4 a b/f?" "i r haxing moness neer teh banke!!@11"

:rolleyes:

Saga2001 03-24-2002 09:03 PM

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Originally posted by Mman
2001 and UN are good, I can't see why anyone voted for classic, classic is crap and it should have been trashed a long time ago
Its there so that newbies can play a server and not me like "why do I never get out of ghost mode?". It used to be good, now its just too crowded...

DarkCloud_PK 03-25-2002 12:22 AM

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Originally posted by konidias
::laughs::

Vincent you have such a GREAT plan there.. you say people on classic are mad because they don't get all the cool features like on 2k1, and you say that classic people should get those new features.. well, doesn't that COMPLETELY DEFEAT THE POINT OF PAYING?

If classic had all the features that 2k1 could have, no one would ever upgrade to see the lighting effects and play on servers with npc servers on them because ALL the servers would have all the features.. You aren't just paying to play 2k1 when you get an upgrade, you're paying to be able to play p2p servers with all the new features.

Classic used to be fun.. it is no longer fun. Vincent, you can defend it all you want, but I have been playing Graal for about 4 years and I have seen the good days of classic. I go on now to find nonstop pking.. I mean, seriously, pking is fun and all, but doing it for hours on end is not progress.. wow you get more kills.. big whip. I sat in angel clan (infamous pk area) and people just die as soon as they swing their sword once. People attack newbies like it's a sport, and that isn't making new players want to upgrade and play Graal more.

If you step on to classic with a fresh account, you don't know what the heck you're doing.. you manage to finally get gloves to lift up the rocks to get into the world, and then you get killed 500 times before you can blink. All the other people have max hearts, are faster, and stronger, and new players don't stand a chance. I remember when classic was all about guilds, guildwars, and sparring. THAT was fun.. now it is no longer fun.. especially because of all the cheaters. 95% of the people on classic cheat to get the stuff they have, so it's pointless.

When I went on I got a bunch of mass messages, things like "who wantz 2 cybur?" "i jurst peekayed thsis n00b har hra" "whoo wanst 2 join miy gild suprursayenl3e7guyz" "NE gurlz lookeng 4 a b/f?" "i r haxing moness neer teh banke!!@11"

:rolleyes:

Eh, I agree about the fetures, I personally do not want to see Classic with a whole bunch of lighting effects.

You are wrong about the other stuff though, it is very exagerated and outdated, hell, I haven't seen you since you were fired from FAQ there 7 months ago. Please get your head out of your ass and get all the new facts before you make a statment.

PK has seemed to die down a tad since a year ago, not to many people attack newbies anymore, and if they do, they are warded off by Tyhm's newbie saint, this prevents a lot of the newbie killing. A lot of the reform in the beggining parts of Graal as well.
A whole new starting village has been added after onlinestartlocal called Tule Village, teaches the newbies everything they need to know, a lot better than 2001's get your race and pump you out into the clothes shop.

You want proof though?...I have that as well, I wanted to see if the reform had worked about a month ago, I made a new account, new name, new look, just to see how a newbie would be treated. I wasn't killed until an hour into the game, and if I was a newbie, I would have known where to go if I had half a brain. I was treated overall well by the other players.

So please, if you don't know what is going on, please shut up.

Vincent_TK 03-25-2002 03:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by konidias
::laughs::

Vincent you have such a GREAT plan there.. you say people on classic are mad because they don't get all the cool features like on 2k1, and you say that classic people should get those new features.. well, doesn't that COMPLETELY DEFEAT THE POINT OF PAYING?

If classic had all the features that 2k1 could have, no one would ever upgrade to see the lighting effects and play on servers with npc servers on them because ALL the servers would have all the features.. You aren't just paying to play 2k1 when you get an upgrade, you're paying to be able to play p2p servers with all the new features.

Classic used to be fun.. it is no longer fun. Vincent, you can defend it all you want, but I have been playing Graal for about 4 years and I have seen the good days of classic. I go on now to find nonstop pking.. I mean, seriously, pking is fun and all, but doing it for hours on end is not progress.. wow you get more kills.. big whip. I sat in angel clan (infamous pk area) and people just die as soon as they swing their sword once. People attack newbies like it's a sport, and that isn't making new players want to upgrade and play Graal more.

If you step on to classic with a fresh account, you don't know what the heck you're doing.. you manage to finally get gloves to lift up the rocks to get into the world, and then you get killed 500 times before you can blink. All the other people have max hearts, are faster, and stronger, and new players don't stand a chance. I remember when classic was all about guilds, guildwars, and sparring. THAT was fun.. now it is no longer fun.. especially because of all the cheaters. 95% of the people on classic cheat to get the stuff they have, so it's pointless.

When I went on I got a bunch of mass messages, things like "who wantz 2 cybur?" "i jurst peekayed thsis n00b har hra" "whoo wanst 2 join miy gild suprursayenl3e7guyz" "NE gurlz lookeng 4 a b/f?" "i r haxing moness neer teh banke!!@11"

:rolleyes:

I dont really care about the NEW features, I just wish they hadnt implemented stuff like Ghost mode to Classic. If you want to pay for some lightning effects and some amusment park server with curuption, thats on you. I agree, Classic did get boring but Graal all around has got boring. Some PK'ers try to kill the newbs, yes, but alot of them just kill anyone whos around them. I dont really believe you about the newb account thing, I made a new account before when i was bored and I had 5 hearts, level 3 sword and the lizard shield in an hour...maybe in an hour and a half. New players to Graal shouldnt be as stupid as to know how to move with the arrow keys, if they are, they deserve to be PK'd. Most of the cheaters left Graal so that 95% thing isnt true anymore unless im unaware of new trainers.

Now about those quotes, you can easily block mass message and they arent as annoying as "Can you support my guild plsp ls pls pls" every 1 minute or "RLMAOLMAORLMAOAMLRMAOMRAL"<-exageration. I really do hate most of these new abreviations you guys make up, soon you guys are going to abreviate whole damn sentences.

_0AfTeRsHoCk0_ 03-25-2002 04:57 AM

Role-playing on 2001 has picked up, so I like going there a bit more now...

I personally would like to see the Old Classic back. I don't know how old you are talking about. I started playing Graal about 1 year ago and I remember going on Classic was plenty of fun. Guilds were still heavily emphasized and there were always these wars between east and west, nrth and south etc. Those were great fun :D

I also remember Undine, "Queen" of Graal. Holy crap, that was hilarious

Psyker 03-25-2002 05:01 AM

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Originally posted by _0AfTeRsHoCk0_
Role-playing on 2001 has picked up, so I like going there a bit more now...

I personally would like to see the Old Classic back. I don't know how old you are talking about. I started playing Graal about 1 year ago and I remember going on Classic was plenty of fun. Guilds were still heavily emphasized and there were always these wars between east and west, nrth and south etc. Those were great fun :D

I also remember Undine, "Queen" of Graal. Holy crap, that was hilarious

I've got a surprise for you. ;)

http://forums.graal2001.com/forums/s...threadid=26219

Minoc 03-25-2002 05:37 AM

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Originally posted by _0AfTeRsHoCk0_
[B
I also remember Undine, "Queen" of Graal. Holy crap, that was hilarious [/B]
Undine wasn't on "old classic", I remember her =P, she got banned after someone named "werewolf" caused her to download a trainer that sent him her password, so he got on her account, harrassed people, made some of her followers hate her, and lots of other fun stuff =P

_0AfTeRsHoCk0_ 03-25-2002 06:06 AM

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Originally posted by Psyker

I've got a surprise for you. ;)

http://forums.graal2001.com/forums/s...threadid=26219

Hehe, yes, I read that. I am looking forward to it. It should be fun playing a Classic (no pun intended), I've heard so many good things about it so it'll be interesting

_0AfTeRsHoCk0_ 03-25-2002 06:07 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Minoc

Undine wasn't on "old classic", I remember her =P, she got banned after someone named "werewolf" caused her to download a trainer that sent him her password, so he got on her account, harrassed people, made some of her followers hate her, and lots of other fun stuff =P

Yeah, I know. But for me that was old classic.

screen_name 03-25-2002 06:35 AM

Graal2001

*sniff*

*sniff*

Mman 03-25-2002 08:02 AM

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Originally posted by Vincent_TK

soon you guys are going to abreviate whole damn sentences.

HTNABI (Hey that's not a bad idea) :D

DarkDragon452 03-26-2002 12:38 AM

Restoring Old Classic=Great Idea.

Dark Cloud=Funny

This topic=Pointless

That's all.


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