THIS IS ALL UR FAULT WERE BEING MEAN TO U........IF U JUST DIDDNT BLOODY KEEP BANNING PEOPLE IT WOUDNT HAVE EVER HAPPENED......GET IT INTO UR HEAD.........I ALWAYS HAVE TO PUT UP WITH PEOPLE SAYING **** ABOUT ME.....

Can't you imagine why I ban people?

Yeah, I can tell! The mad caps fit gives it away man.

NO I CAN NOT.............THERES LIKE NO HACKERS EVER ON GRAAL2001 THE ASST GM BEFORE U NEVER BANED PEOPLE SO OFTEN IN ONE DAY............SO I DONT KNOW WHY U BANNED PEOPLE ALL THE TIME.......I DONT THINK ZORRO BANNED ANYONE UNLIKE U

People *are* cheating and doing other bad stuff on Graal2001. I wished it were otherwise, but we have to live with that!

no-one hardly ever cheats.......and wat were talking about here.......UR BANNING PEOPLE FOR NO REASON!!!!!!

Stop arguing already. If Loriel bans somebody or has banned somebody, it is for a purpose. He's not being "corrupt" for banning these people, if they "cheat" or whatever, they deserve to be banned.

NO U R WRONG...........HES DOING IT FOR NO REASON......HAVE U NOT LOOKED AT THE OTHER THREADS.........HE BANNED ME CAUSE MY NAME WAS 'PLAY MY SERVER ON GRAAL 1.3'

Yes, many people cheat on G2K1...
Have you been sleeping under a rock? Have you heard of the market place attacks? Explosions, items being stolen...etc.

lol I doubt that's why he banned you.

cause hosting a 1.3 server is illegal!

Are you playing the same graal as us?

well see then he had good reason to ban him. Like I said Loriel doesn't just go ban people for "no reason."

From what I recall, hosting any server above 1.3 is illegal.
Because I sometimes host my own 1.3 server as a place for my close friends to showoff their work(levels, graphics).

*agrees* (hosting any version the internet is illegal to my knowledge)
And you were straight unbanned after you told me you did not know that, so don't complain!

I KNOW BUT IT WAS JUST MY NAME......U CANT BANNED ME FOR MY NAME.......LORIEL HAS STUPID REASONS FOR BANNING PEOPLE!

This is one of those occassions during which I want to give my opinion.
So, Loriel banned Antago. As usual, everyone is desperate for him to stay. Loriel shouldn't have banned antago? Fine. Loriel does imprudent things? Yeah, maybe. But he actually does things. Who can fail making ideas? They're just ideas. Implementers take the blame.

Loriel is one of only emotionally mature admins we've ever had. He doesn't "blow up." He doesn't call names. And he doesn't post huge ranting threads about the injustice of the world.

As for Antago, well, of course he's a genius. I'd rather he stayed and made some improvements to the game. But, I also know that he's exceptionally rude and arrogant. If I had to work with him, I'd probably end up banning him myself.

Do you even know what an ass bandit is?

I've still yet to see any hard justification for banning Antago, who, undoubtedly, was one of the few people capable of breathing life into a dying game. Ono, he called Loriel an idiot liek, at least once a day. Give me a break.

WELL I AM COMPLAINING.......WATS THE POINT DOING THE BAN ANYWAYS

I personally think Ibonic did the best job as an admin ever.

You advertised a server you had running with illegal software. Uh sure, no reason to ban you.

I strongly disagree about having someone have that admin access if he justs kills my NPCs.

Well, Antago calling Loriel an idiot isnt a banable thing, also I didnt see Antago actually delete any npcs even though he threatened to or whatever. I disagree on the fact that Antago messes or re-does Loriels work or whatever, that's messed up of him. Antago is arrogant like Dante said but he also does great work. Ive been thinking about it too, there really is no real logic reason for him to be banned. Maybe if he really did delete Loriels npcs or something. It must be hard to work with someone like Antago though , he has a bad attitude, and he should listen to what Loriel says so if I was Loriel and told him to do something and he just blew it off or whatever I would be pissed too...

..but I dont think he should have been banned.

the name wasnt even detailed enough for anything

I suggest you think of making it a global ban so he is unable to post on these forums, seeing as he is one of the people that degrades everyone and everything on here. :/

Re: Re: ¿el fin?
 

uhm, no he didn't...

If only there were a way to just... disable a person from using Graal on their computer period, that would be great =D

no it woudnt cause loriel would do it to everyone and not one person would be left in all of graal

Idiot, Loriel probley wouldn't be given that sort of power. It would be a Stefan only thing.

In that case ban shadrock. Look at most of his post putting graal down and the people who work for it.

(nothing against you shadrock, just an example :) )

I swear, I question the thought of whether you engage your brain before typing every message i read from you.

Exactly how I see him.
Every word there.

hmmm
 

so what ge had that play my 1.3 server name... who says he even had one? he could've been kidding (probly wasnt) but you never know. bannings shouldnt be given so hastily. and loriel, did you ever talk with antago? ask him to politely stop? or did you just ban him on a pur-of-the-moment impulse?

What i think.
 

i think he did some stuff that he shouldnt, "threatening" to do alot of things, i dont think thats a reson to be ban, but mabie a reson to disable RC, or take his rights away temporarly. This is just what i think, Antago to be honest you are a BIG ass to lots of people, and they did nothing, i guess its just a little pay back from Loriel for that and other things.

Loriel is doing his job, i dont think he is Currupt and i think it was the right thing to do though there are other things that could have been done it was 1 that i may have chosen. Antago thats sad that you are quiting cause of this, cause you cant get your way, well thats all i have to say.

Discussions about bans and staff complains are not
allowed on the forums, send me a forum PM or
email if you have questions about it or there is
a problem.
About Antago: the last time I have chatted with him
was yesterday, he made jokes about me and
acted very disrectfull.
I think when discussing about things on Graal you should
try to see both sides, and not just say bad things
about the admins who have just done their work.
It will not help the game if you bring all complains
to the forum or discuss it with all the players,
it will only make playing the game less fun
and give it a bad atmosphere. It's better and more
efficient to contact me.