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Mr. Bear 04-26-2001 01:49 PM

No im repeating I have no power over and over so people will understand that I cant just replace staff like im getting emails about.

StoneColdRichie 04-26-2001 01:49 PM

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Originally posted by Lycia
Oh, thats effective, The Game.

Get rid of admins that actually do work on the game instead of going on extended vacations.

Whatever.

I guess you would be right if any of the admins I mentioned actually did work.

Lycia 04-26-2001 01:50 PM

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Originally posted by CalinRubeus
so your not repeating how you have no power over and over because you want the spot?
No, he's stating that if Zorro can't do the job, then maybe he should hand it over to someone who can.

CalinRubeus 04-26-2001 01:51 PM

Okay then Bear. I will stop arguing now.

Thak2 04-26-2001 01:52 PM

i wish i was a graal online admin :/

04-26-2001 01:53 PM

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Originally posted by StoneColdRichie


I find that hard, you can't even put a castle together. :(

heh
my eyes hurt
i've been up till 2 am the last 5 school nights
i'm sore
my back, neck, and wrists hurt
i seem to have lost what creativity and ideas i had for the castle
I'm working on it right now, and it's hard.

FatherDante 04-26-2001 01:53 PM

Give Graal positions equal to Stefan and Unixmad's in a corporate manner- to stockholders or executives elected by stockholders. They would be contracted employees, responsible to the company. This is my recommendation, not my mandate.

As for any other staff issues, they should be dealth with by Cyberjouer as the company sees fit, not as we see fit. After all, in the long run, it's the profts that matter, and none of us have true stake in the profits.

Mr. Bear 04-26-2001 01:54 PM

Because now you see...

I'm not here for me or my stupid power. I'm here for you because I don't think this bull **** should go on. Graalian emails deserve to be answered.

StoneColdRichie 04-26-2001 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by FatherDante
Give Graal positions equal to Stefan and Unixmad's in a corporate manner- to stockholders or executives elected by stockholders. They would be contracted employees, responsible to the company. This is my recommendation, not my mandate.

As for any other staff issues, they should be dealth with by Cyberjouer as the company sees fit, not as we see fit. After all, in the long run, it's the profts that matter, and none of us have true stake in the profits.

That is the smartest thing I've heard.
Neither Lycia, nor Bear, nor Zorro, nor any of these current admins should exist.
They should be hired by Cyberjouer as employees, like Drakaden.

Thak2 04-26-2001 01:56 PM

i must admit, i was suprised when bear gave out his icq :) no one else dares do it lol i guess maybe he does want to help...... so do i *cries*

Lycia 04-26-2001 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by FatherDante
Give Graal positions equal to Stefan and Unixmad's in a corporate manner- to stockholders or executives elected by stockholders. They would be contracted employees, responsible to the company. This is my recommendation, not my mandate.

As for any other staff issues, they should be dealth with by Cyberjouer as the company sees fit, not as we see fit. After all, in the long run, it's the profts that matter, and none of us have true stake in the profits.

Oh really? So, basically, Cyberjouer's customers have to suffer due to understaffing?

CalinRubeus 04-26-2001 01:57 PM

Stefans ICQ isn't hard to find...lets see... "Nickname: bomber Name: Stefan Lastname: Knorr " heh

Mr. Bear 04-26-2001 01:57 PM

I'm not even going to go into the pay situation. First we need a decent staff.

04-26-2001 01:58 PM

Hmmm
they're not rich I think..

Thak2 04-26-2001 01:59 PM

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Originally posted by CalinRubeus
Stefans ICQ isn't hard to find...lets see... "Nickname: bomber Name: Stefan Lastname: Knorr " heh
maybe not, but he never answers you onthat one, nor does he go on it very often. his personal one is much harder to find :(

Lycia 04-26-2001 02:00 PM

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Originally posted by TrueHeaT
Hmmm
they're not rich I think..

THT, I'm not referring to paid employees like Drakaden, I'm referring to staff members that are hired on a volunteer basis.

FatherDante 04-26-2001 02:01 PM

Actually, both staff quality and CyberJouer's budget would improve. Theoretically. Trying to say it would cause the players "suffering" is simply ridiculous and snesationalistic. -.-

Thak2 04-26-2001 02:02 PM

someone explain the drakeden situation, who is he x_X and why is he payed ?
sorry, i dont know much o_O

Lycia 04-26-2001 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by FatherDante
Actually, both staff quality and CyberJouer's budget would improve. Theoretically. Trying to say it would cause the players "suffering" is simply ridiculous and snesationalistic. -.-
Guess what? If you make a product better, you get repeat business. If you hire better staff that have both good public and customer service relations, then you will get repeat business.


Asuka 04-26-2001 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lycia


Guess what? If you make a product better, you get repeat business. If you hire better staff that have both good public and customer service relations, then you will get repeat business.


You have neither good public nor good customer service relations which means termination goodbye.

04-26-2001 02:10 PM

stop the fighting... it's giving me a headache...
or maybe that's the monitor...
no... it's the fighting...

Lycia 04-26-2001 02:13 PM

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Originally posted by Asuka


You have neither good public nor good customer service relations which means termination goodbye.

Do you have proof to back up this claim?

I may not possess public skills, however, I do harbour fantastic customer service skills.


StoneColdRichie 04-26-2001 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lycia


Do you have proof to back up this claim?

I may not possess public skills, however, I do harbour fantastic customer service skills.


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Lycia 04-26-2001 02:16 PM

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Originally posted by StoneColdRichie


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StoneColdRichie 04-26-2001 02:17 PM

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Originally posted by Lycia



Mmmmmmmmkay.

An extremely stupid response from an extremely stupid person.

CalinRubeus 04-26-2001 02:18 PM

And you had a exetremely stupid Remark Richie. Now if you want to fight with her do it over ICQ or on Graal because no one here wants to hear it.

FatherDante 04-26-2001 02:21 PM

Firstly, quality costumer service doesn't reconcile inadequate job emperformance.

Secondly, a corporate employment model will almost certainly improve service. The current model seems to do the opposite.

Thirdly, there is no reason to believe that continuuing the current model will result in an increase of costumer satisfaction, or that changing it will cause the opposite.

StoneColdRichie 04-26-2001 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CalinRubeus
And you had a exetremely stupid Remark Richie. Now if you want to fight with her do it over ICQ or on Graal because no one here wants to hear it.
I don't see how it was stupid. I don't appreciate being called Richie here.

Lycia 04-26-2001 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by FatherDante
Secondly, a corporate employment model will almost certainly improve service. The current model seems to do the opposite.
Not really.

In some cases, someone who is hired on a volunteer basis will do much better than someone who is paid to do it simply because they have their hearts in it, while the paid model will feel that since he's being paid, he can just lounge around and do nothing.

CalinRubeus 04-26-2001 02:26 PM

You dont think you scrolling that shes corrupt isn't stupid Game?

StoneColdRichie 04-26-2001 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lycia


Not really.

In some cases, someone who is hired on a volunteer basis will do much better than someone who is paid to do it simply because they have their hearts in it, while the paid model will feel that since he's being paid, he can just lounge around and do nothing.

You must have had your heart into deleting guilds and giving out money.

Asuka 04-26-2001 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lycia


Do you have proof to back up this claim?

I may not possess public skills, however, I do harbour fantastic customer service skills.


Yes great customer service skills by abusing your power to get into places you shouldn't be such as my bar and throne room.

StoneColdRichie 04-26-2001 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CalinRubeus
You dont think you scrolling that shes corrupt isn't stupid Game?
No, actually, I don't. I'm proving a point.

FatherDante 04-26-2001 02:30 PM

It's not a paid employee, it's a corporate executive. The response seems to be irrational, and skewed by its presenter's own affiliations with the current system. Obviously in such a position it's impossible to be objective.

Asuka 04-26-2001 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lycia


Not really.

In some cases, someone who is hired on a volunteer basis will do much better than someone who is paid to do it simply because they have their hearts in it, while the paid model will feel that since he's being paid, he can just lounge around and do nothing.

You seem to have your heart in your RC not in graal. If you haven't noticed many of the players are bringing entertainment to graal with this Graalian Kingdoms idea but we have no rc nor do we have any power. We are doing this for graal not to achieve any sort of power. This also goes back to your FAQ thing you may have created it but why do you need so much power from it? Should me or THT have level 4 RC just because we work hard on this? (note me and THT are not the only ones working hard on this i just used us as an example)

StoneColdRichie 04-26-2001 02:32 PM

Asuka seems to be right all the time.

Lycia 04-26-2001 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Asuka


You seem to have your heart in your RC not in graal. If you haven't noticed many of the players are bringing entertainment to graal with this Graalian Kingdoms idea but we have no rc nor do we have any power. We are doing this for graal not to achieve any sort of power. This also goes back to your FAQ thing you may have created it but why do you need so much power from it? Should me or THT have level 4 RC just because we work hard on this? (note me and THT are not the only ones working hard on this i just used us as an example)


Oooooooooh. So, you come up with an idea, and you should get all applause for it?

Okay!@#@!

*claps violently*

BRAVO!!!!!!!!!

StoneColdRichie 04-26-2001 02:33 PM

You come up with an idea and want SUPREME POWER OVER IT!

Lycia 04-26-2001 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by StoneColdRichie
You come up with an idea and want SUPREME POWER OVER IT!
You betcha!

Asuka 04-26-2001 02:36 PM

YAY congrats game you got the point.

Lycia, your entire argument over why you should have Level 4 RC and why you should be FAQ Chief was that you helped create it. Of course you can't recognize analogies.....


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