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Tricxta 06-12-2011 10:18 AM

Nice vinka, I dont think you should have any shine on that rock though and the statue on the fountain should be bigger imo for a more grand appearance since it is someone of royalty lol. Nice work!

Vinka 06-12-2011 06:15 PM

Just this little baddie I'm working on
http://i1206.photobucket.com/albums/...ad-update7.png

Unkownsoldier 06-12-2011 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vinka (Post 1654486)
Just this little baddie I'm working on
http://i1206.photobucket.com/albums/...ad-update7.png

Will the baddie be able to move?

kia345 06-12-2011 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Unkownsoldier (Post 1654499)
Will the baddie be able to move?

Animating hand drawn things is tedious work.

That said, the results are usually nice to look at, even with little technical detail. So if Vinka actually does it, it will be some impressive ****.

Emera 06-12-2011 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vinka (Post 1654486)
Just this little baddie I'm working on
http://i1206.photobucket.com/albums/...ad-update7.png

Little? Lolz vinka good job mate its sweet.

DeCeaseD 06-12-2011 11:08 PM

Looks neat, except it's in a rather complex pose to be used as a baddy.. o_O

skillmaster19 06-12-2011 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vinka (Post 1654486)
Just this little baddie I'm working on
http://i1206.photobucket.com/albums/...ad-update7.png

I just realised a potential problem. How are you going to animate it if you hand draw it?

BigBear3 06-12-2011 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unkownsoldier (Post 1654499)
Will the baddie be able to move?

Quote:

Originally Posted by kia345 (Post 1654502)
Animating hand drawn things is tedious work.

That said, the results are usually nice to look at, even with little technical detail. So if Vinka actually does it, it will be some impressive ****.

Quote:

Originally Posted by skillmaster19 (Post 1654522)
I just realised a potential problem. How are you going to animate it if you hand draw it?



ughhh? BRO HE JUST REALIZED A POTENTIAL PROBLEM

Supaman771 06-12-2011 11:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigbear3 (Post 1654526)
ughhh? Bro he just realized a potential problem

get to the choppa!

Vinka 06-13-2011 12:01 AM

Hell yes we are going to animate this baby :)
For this one I will probably just animate the front two arms and his head, while the rest of his body is either strapped down by chains or stuck somewhere in a dungeon, as one of the hardest dungeon bosses in the game.

Either that or I will scale him down.

And animating this hand drawn image isn't any different than animating a pixelart image.

P.S. awesome animation PoJo o:

BigBear3 06-13-2011 12:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vinka (Post 1654529)
P.S. awesome animation PoJo o:

Yeah, legit. I never saw that until now.

Eskimo 06-13-2011 01:06 AM

It's amazing to see how much progress Vinka makes in the span of a few days.

skillmaster19 06-13-2011 01:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vinka (Post 1654529)
Hell yes we are going to animate this baby :)
For this one I will probably just animate the front two arms and his head, while the rest of his body is either strapped down by chains or stuck somewhere in a dungeon, as one of the hardest dungeon bosses in the game.

Either that or I will scale him down.

And animating this hand drawn image isn't any different than animating a pixelart image.

P.S. awesome animation PoJo o:

Be sure to animate its body too to show it to trying to get free.

Vinka 06-13-2011 02:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eskimo (Post 1654538)
It's amazing to see how much progress Vinka makes in the span of a few days.

Thanks :) I do my best

Quote:

Originally Posted by skillmaster19 (Post 1654546)
Be sure to animate its body too to show it to trying to get free.

Yep!



Made some new trees; excuse their awkward placement :asleep:
http://i1206.photobucket.com/albums/...ad-update8.png

oo_jazz_oo 06-13-2011 03:47 AM

Oh come on...the reaslism on this server is just so ridiculous....trees growing on cobblestone!? Get it together, man.

All seriousness...beautiful. :')

Crono 06-13-2011 03:52 AM

hd gfx

Vinka 06-13-2011 04:15 AM

<3


I really gotta slow down for a while now though... I feel a slight burn out coming my way :frown:

Nonepwnz 06-13-2011 05:54 AM

Vinka you are just awesome, yeah take a break and stuff. Dont burn yourself out, you have lots of time. And the sword sketch, just amazing man. Everything is, I am so excited for this server haha!

Keep up the good work man, its fantastic! =D

Kiwi27 06-13-2011 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Vinka (Post 1654547)

They are very pretty. So pretty. So very pretty. YOU KNOW WHAT, YOUR PRETTY, TOO!

Vinka 06-13-2011 07:51 AM

You guys are too nice :]]

Gothika 06-13-2011 02:23 PM

I love seeing the evolution of your work. It makes me appreciated and enjoy the end result a lot more seeing the build up of stages that goes into making the masterpiece.

Vinka 06-13-2011 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gothika (Post 1654593)
I love seeing the evolution of your work. It makes me appreciated and enjoy the end result a lot more seeing the build up of stages that goes into making the masterpiece.

Thanks, that means alot :D



Heres a pic of the first 2 handed weapon that's almost finished:
http://i1206.photobucket.com/albums/...d-update10.png

Stefan finally backed some files up, including the very first level you will be in when loggin into Europa; your grave(in space):
http://i1206.photobucket.com/albums/...ad-update9.png

patrickp2p 06-13-2011 09:57 PM

I am so proud of you! you came so far in the course of a few months! I especially love the trees and the outlandish twisty street lamps! Keep it up!

Eskimo 06-13-2011 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gothika (Post 1654593)
I love seeing the evolution of your work. It makes me appreciated and enjoy the end result a lot more seeing the build up of stages that goes into making the masterpiece.

^ this.
I hope you don't mind me showing my art teacher and web teacher some of your art :O

Felix_Xenophobe 06-13-2011 10:41 PM

this has so much ****in potential it makes me happy

BigBear3 06-13-2011 10:58 PM

I like Essence's reaction.

"This doesn't look like Graal."

Vinka 06-14-2011 12:54 AM

These comments are real nice to read.. But three minutes ago I decided to shut down the server (probably temporarily). I realized working on it for at least 10 hours a day, 2 weeks straight and losing alot of sleep isn't healthy. Probably because I'm a type of guy who likes to do things a 100% or nothing at all.

I'm just going to have to really think about my plans on the server and hopefully let you know what those plans are soon. I don't want to make the same mistake again.

kia345 06-14-2011 01:08 AM

Sleep is just going to break your momentum. Don't sleep until the server is 120% complete.

Geno 06-14-2011 02:03 AM

sleep is for the weak

Vinka 06-14-2011 02:39 AM

Yeah you guys do have a point, but healthy amount of sleep=more focus.

Conqueror 06-14-2011 02:53 AM

Man, these updates are killer bro! Seriously. I don't care if this server takes you an entire year to create! Don't burn out bud, take your time-- everyone is excited about your work here on graal.

BigBear3 06-14-2011 03:12 AM

You always quit after we do a news feed. :(

patrickp2p 06-14-2011 04:51 AM

Coming from someone who too has a server and hasn't had it for long, I 100% understand! It's like you can't sleep and you get up in the middle of the night and are like "I could add this!" (Ctrl + I). So yah. Get lots of sleep and come back strong! WE NEED SERVERS LIKE THIS. (:

Nonepwnz 06-14-2011 05:41 AM

This is so sad to hear, for real. This server would be a big up for Graalonline, something new, something exciting, something we haven´t really seen in long time.

I think you should make a schedule when to work, when to not work, and just sleep whenever you feel tired. Dont feel any pressure at you man, you don´t have any, believe me. I can wait a long time for this server, its worth the time waiting.

I hope to see you come back on your feets again, but maybe with a schedule or something like I just said, something that will make you able to work, get sleep and just enjoy it. Don´t make it your job, make it your hobby.

Good luck brother, I hope too see it back soon very soon again <3

kia345 06-14-2011 05:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nonepwnz (Post 1654680)
This is so sad to hear, for real. This server would be a big up for Graalonline, something new, something exciting, something we haven´t really seen in long time.

You're putting way too much on the graphics. Right now, we just have that it looks nice. It's not anything new and exciting yet, and aside from beautifully drawn graphics, Vinka hasn't brought anything new to the table.

Nonepwnz 06-14-2011 06:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kia345 (Post 1654683)
You're putting way too much on the graphics. Right now, we just have that it looks nice. It's not anything new and exciting yet, and aside from beautifully drawn graphics, Vinka hasn't brought anything new to the table.

From what I have heard, it will be very sweet stuffs. Maybe not that much new features, BUT, with these graphics it will be a whole new style of gameplaying. I believe its pretty new.

Something new to the table will show up, I am sure.

Vinka 06-14-2011 06:58 AM

Wow, I'm surprised at how supportive the Graal community can be :), I'm really grateful.

Right now, at 6:30 AM while I'm writing this and having been thinking for hours I'm happy to tell you my decision has been made. I am simply changing my approach, and I'm definitly not quitting.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigBear3 (Post 1654664)
You always quit after we do a news feed. :(

Well, the thing was, 80% of me said slow dooown, 3% said quit now! and 17% said; stop whining and get a move on!

The server right now is just set to staffonly, I think there's a connection between me being burned out and having it be in the public while it's still under heavy construction, the pressure was high because a positive first impression is of high importance. After having over 300 unique visitors on the server within one day after the news feed I don't think of it as that bad making it staff only, or is it?

Quote:

Originally Posted by kia345 (Post 1654683)
You're putting way too much on the graphics. Right now, we just have that it looks nice. It's not anything new and exciting yet, and aside from beautifully drawn graphics, Vinka hasn't brought anything new to the table.

Thanks for being honest. People like you, too, are needed to pull people like myself back on the ground when needed be. Though I hope you understand what it means to create something 'new and exciting' especially within Graal.

Although I definitly have ideas I am bound to execute which I consider to become 'new and exciting', I just don't like to magnify the theoretical side of things, rather to actually SHOW the people when it's done. And aside from that I am more grounded in my plans of taking the right approach on gameplay, content and a well nurtured economy to have those three components in the right balance. In order to create what in my eyes would be a fun, socially engaging, skill oriented, refreshing experience without any real sense of 'grinding' and repeating a mundane process 1000s of times to be at a certain level to compete fairly with others. All of this would be something 'new and exciting', or would it not?

Raspberry 06-14-2011 07:52 AM

I went on Eurpopa to check how things were going and im impressed with your progress ^^

kia345 06-14-2011 08:04 AM

Vinka, I don't deny that you'll, at the very least, do something interesting with your server. Don't get me wrong, I totally expect good things in the future.

Kiwi27 06-14-2011 11:55 AM

You haven't been sleeping just to reach my pretty-ness needs?! Your meant to sleep...

... But now I feel bad.

I wanna be just like Vinka when I grow up, he's my hero! - Baby Kiwi, in his Graal-tastic dream the night before :0


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