Exausted, after reading all these post of why we dont like your idea do you still feal the same way with your idea?

Why didn't you ban him for that spam thread?

Create more ridiculous threads please. :asleep:

So now the idea has changed from getting the player to switch servers, to now locking them out so they can't go back for 5 hours? UN does not compare to the experience you may have found on Era, or N-Pulse.

Most likely if they can't play the server they want, when they want. They are just going to exit Graal and go do something else.

If people want to play the other servers, they should have to go their naturally whether it be an advertisement or a news update that convinces them to go visit and try it out.

Just because you enjoy classic style gameplay on one server doesn't mean you're going to like it on another. In fact in the case of classic styled server it's the community that makes the server and making people switch servers would scramble up the community, most likely for the worst in most cases.

As Darlene said above, what if you're doing something important on the current server and it decides HEY TIME TO LOCK YOU OUT. Now you're interrupted and most likely pissed. A good example of this is when you're playing a game and your controller gets unplugged and the game doesn't pause, end result you die in-game.

Also even a global posted a joke in your thread, your support for this idea is minimal to none. The cons of the idea heavily outweigh the pros, and I think we've spelled it out for you enough.

There's a reason why the top 3 servers have the playercounts they do, and it's not because "LOL THEY HAD HIGH PLAYERCOUNTS BEFORE".

wow I'm quite amazed Exausted, my mind wouldn't even be able to come up with something like that :O

o wow

How in the hell was that trolling? XD! I don't think you even know what trolling is, but if you're not serious, then congratulations on trolling all these people.

DAMNIT TIGAIRIUS I WAS JUST ABOUT TO DO THAT except i was going to say "your eyes must be exhausted :("


I HAD IT ALL READY AND EVERYTHING




!pissed!!pissed!!pissed!




ontopic: ya this isn't that great of an idea but some of u guys r being jerks which is rly unneeded

o.o...he posted that quite awhile ago liz...are you sure? You sound exhausted, go get some sleep x3

i haven't slept in two days :)

i only rate people's trolling when they ARE trolling.

i already did this earlier in the thread, except with - to outline the individual points

you make a really good point. hopefully stefan can get around this by taking requests by server managers to temporarily keep the server unlocked during the day of the event.


i'm not randomly giving trolling ratings to everyone that disagrees. all i do is rate them whenever they mock me, or make sarcastic posts.

yes, i know but this idea would improve graal if people would get over themselves and just go with the flow. don't you want to see graal improve?

because no one has really told me why it's a bad idea. there are people that say they'd quit, they wouldn't like it, but losing a few players isn't that big of a deal compared to how great it'd be for the game




n-pulse is pretty much UN, except smaller playercount, different items. both of them are only alive because of events (fighting over mass messages also keeps UN alive though)

i think that you should make this a poll on zodiac:
If you were locked out of a server and forced to play any other one for a few hours before coming back, would you quit Graal?

i agree with the bolded, but it looks like most graalians have siwtched servers from time to time anyway.

yes, i know this is a problem. i've said before there are more pros then cons to this idea. change won't happen over night.. but if stefan actually implemented this, you would slowly see graal getting better. developers would constantly be inspired to make new and better stuff because they'd keep getting an influx of new players

i didn't see the global disagreeing with me, though..

holy heck wall of text alert. sry but taking graal srsly isnt good for u exhausted

1/10 rating, laura.

anyway, @ fowlplay4
i forgot to mention that if people know they have a time limit (like how trials have a time limit showing for their gameplay before ob mode sets in) they won't do things that'll take more time then the amount of time they have left

like if i see i have 10 minutes left of zodiac, i'm not going to go to pyras to fight mumra, but if i had 5 hours left, then yeah i would

i forgot to respond to this. thanks for your support, i'm glad someone finally is open minded enough to agree. whenever i can rep someone again, i'll give you a positive one.

It's bad enough that trials gameplay is already limited like this, but now this would affect everyone, not just non-paying players.

It would actually limit and ruin gameplay on the servers like observer mode already does.

In fact why don't you start a poll and see how many people like or dislike the idea.

Notice how he tactically skipped my last post.

it wouldn't ruin gameplay. you see, what my idea will do is improve servers. so you play a server for a few hours, and then you're locked out, and then you just go play another enjoyable server for a few hours, then you're locked out of that one, and you go back to the other server and it's just life as usual

you make my idea sound really bad even though it's n ot

it's because you think graal is WoW

It will improve servers how exactly? By kicking out players in the midst of an event because his 5 hours are over? By Decreasing the player count every once in a while because the 5 hours of some other players were over as well?
For some people, there are no "other enjoyable servers". You can't send Era players to UN saying they got some CS clone or whatever. You can't send them to Zone because that's just completely different anyway. Life is not "as usual" when you are forced to go somewhere else every 5 hours.

I suggest you let the others decide whether your idea is bad or not. Others as in all the other forum members and possibly also Graal Online management members around here.
I don't care if you "studied" psychology or whatever and think you can predict the mass of players. Obviously you can't, and you don't seem to be aware that your idea as it is now would be a pretty stupid "gameplay" addition interfering with lots of things.

Your idea assumes that every server they play will be enjoyable, and that simply isn't the case with Graal.

It definitely does not improve servers either.

Now I still think you need to make this into a poll so the numbers can effectively show how well the idea is liked or disliked. Considering our posts aren't getting through to you.

Here I even asked players of Zodiac over shout channel (unfiltered).

None of those statements are positive towards the idea.

This is what I think.
If I am going to pay to play/develop, I do not want to be kicked off servers I decide to play/develop.
It's a bad idea no matter how you look at it.

a pretty irrelevant post. i already told you how it'll improve servers. when i said "life as usual", i mean whenever they are able to return to the server they want to play the most.

my idea is pretty good, no one has proved to me that it's a bad idea. there have been good points raised but like i said earlier.. for every idea, some people like it, others don't. in this case, more people would benefit in the long-run then not. as for the bolded part, see below.


Obedience (60 Thief): I wouldn't like it, but i'd just go to era.
^ this is EXACTLY what i'm talking about. he would accept it and go to another server, and that server, with a nice variation of servers would be inspired to develop more efficiently. thanks for that, fowlplay.

as for making a poll, how do i make a poll in a thread already created? i don't want to make a thread just for a poll about this and have two threads going on about the same thing

well like i said earlier, this system would do more good then harm. sure, it would annoy/anger some players, but there are a LOT of benefits. maybe this idea could just be put in for a couple months, and then when the servers finally increase in quality exponentially, stefan could let you play a server as much as you want

see guys, you don't have to insult me and put a negative spin on my threads to have a civilized discussion

i want to write a post that can tell exhausted, in a way that he understand and respects completely, that his ideas are completely useless in helping graal in any way; that no one has ever supported any of his ideas and probably his further ideas since they are so unconventional and outlandish, and that they will never, ever be implemented into graal. i'd also want to write the post in such a way that it is not degrading way towards exhausted personally, nor post in a way that conveys that he should stop posting - only that he should really think through on these ideas before posting them, looking very closely at the negative affects his ideas would create and the trouble it would be in implementing them, that he should learn how to take constructive criticism instead of assuming everyone is out to make fun of his ideas, branding them a "troll" instead of realizing that people are just posting, and that if he would admit his mistakes and admit that his idea really won't help graal at all, that the rest of the forums would be a lot more accepting and gentle in the way that they disagree with any of his further ideas

however, i don't have the time nor the patience to type such a post out, and i highly doubt exhausted cares anyways. well on the way to a double red-rep (if that's even possible)

I figure the only way to make a poll would to create the new thread with the poll and have Darlene merge the two threads together for you.

But back to the topic..

There are NO solid benefits, only short-term for maybe a day of playing then the player will quit because he's sick of not having any freedoms of which server he can play only that he has to make a choice for 5 hours, then suffer another 5 on a server that he may or may not enjoy.

There is no sense implementing this idea, because there's already people who change servers when they want to play something else.

Like I said before, it should be the Management of the servers that make the effort to advertise, provide updates and get their server out there. Not by some sort of lockout system.

Someone close this thread, looks like everyone is gonna reply forever x_X

people have supported my ideas, even someone earlier in this thread. i do think about my ideas before posting them.. why do you think diferently?

i don't randomly label people a troll when they disagree with me. i've said this like 10 times. sometimes i get flamed/mocked - that's trolling.

i completely agree with you there. hmm how about

you have 5 hours of play time on your favorite server and then you have to play for 2-3 hours on other servers... or 8 hours on your favorite, and 4-5 hours on another before you can go back to your favorite, and then managers can advertise so people will want to spend most of their time on that server and keep coming back after they're locked out and then let back in..

if this thread gets out of hand, darlene will close it

Where? Only one person said he wouldn't have thought of it himself, not that he supported your idea.
To be honest, no one has supported it.

i try not to be rude to people, but Exhausted, you are not the brightest crayon in the box. How does making players go to another server solve anything? Like many said above, i'd just log off graal and go take a nap or watch a movie. Could you imagine if say xbox made you switch games every 5 hours? It sounds so stupid that I can't even think of a word to describe you idea. Maybe "super stupid?" You lost alot of credibility if you even had any in my eyes!

I still don't believe a player should have to decide how long they want to play on one server, and have to be kicked or feel like they're doing a laborious chore by going on another server for a few hours vs playing the server they wanted to.

The only thing that could be taken from this idea is getting people to explore the different servers of Graal, but instead of by force provide some sort of bonus or prize to spending time on many different servers which would maybe give them some incentive to try something new.

Even then that is something that the management of each server should think about, creating updates that would attract new players.

I.e: If you haven't played <Servername>, why not come and try it now! We are giving away <Small Fun Prize> to everyone that logs on!

It's not something you can really do weekly but it doesn't hurt to try and do it every month.

This would be doable if the servers would cooperate more. The quality of the game would be raised as a whole and ideally would attract new players (and subsequently new developers).

That said, it really makes me wonder sometimes...

How simply can I put this?

It won't happen.

When you pay for a game, you play the servers you want to play on. Playercount does not need "spreading" because it already works that the good servers get the most players.

If a server doesn't have any players, it means that they should improve that server to attract more players.

It's as simple as that. Sorry.

Won't happen.

Most of graals population is posting in your thread, and dissagreeing with it.

and what would happend to the UC servers?
Would I be forced to play on Graal Ghetto for 5 hours to be able to develop on AEON. Haha, doesn't make any sence.

I don't know if you are kidding or what, but I have to agree with Crono.

Exhausted, just stop posting and trying to defend yourself.
You have ideas and all, but as you can see we all disagree with this one, so just stop trying to justify yourself, this will never happen anyway

Do you honestly believe he thinks the idea is good? No he doesn't, the whole point of this thread and the other threads he has made is to annoy the people posting in the threads.

I really hope thats the case, because otherwise i really must start having doubts about his sanity.


furthermore,
exhausted, you keep saying that there are more good sides then bad sides to this idea, yet everyone has dissagreed with it, and given reasons for it. Yes you keep saying that is has more good sides, but i have not seen you name them yet.

He has Spoken.

Agreed.

Didn't this guy said ''I quit'' a few days ago..?
I don't want him to be like me, always saying I QUIT but coming back ;o

Revoke his right to make threads

It's working.