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So far Era still hasnt retained it's old glory for long, Koth helped bring that out for a while but it died down.
I look forward to new management and the changes that may follow. |
Deo, we've had our differences. You did a good job all in all.
Sales! Awesome buddy! You'll do great. |
Bye!
You Don't know me but I going to miss you :( you made Era :((
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Whenever the matter of staff problems came to hand, Jesse either ignored it, made petty justifications (THE STAFF ARE DOING GOOD YOU JUST HAVE A GRUDGE AND VENDETTA AGAINST THEM BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH), or outright pretended to be afk. I want to see an a-hole in charge, from my point of experience, they tend to get things DONE as long as they aren't being an idiot. (By the way, Smu doesn't count as an a-hole, he's more of a douche.) |
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I see how Raven is explaining it, and I think he is right.
But there are some points where a person can be nice and still do a good job. Take YY as an example. He was an awesome ETA, and was nice. The only way for people like YY to act like an a-hole/douche is if someone is just annoying,complaining (The type where the person just acts annoying on purpose), etc... The point is, your Dev/Player-side skills cannot be judged all the time by that person's personality, even if it is most of the time. |
It's not so much an issue of whether they're mean or nice, it's more their motives.
If they're unbiased, and motivated to help the server, they'll make the right decisions about the staff team and the server in general. That means not hiring talentless friends just because they're friends and making decisions based on what you think/know is in the best interest of the server rather than basing it off of the public's approval. I can't tell you how many times I've heard from various staff team members: "I can't do that, then players will whine and *****." or "I did it, but then everyone cried so I switched it back." Seriously? You're going to **** over the server's gameplay balance and other elements just so players won't have to go out and buy a box of kleenexes? |
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It's very simple. Clash kept promising that the VERY ambitious New Valikorlia project would eventually be finished. Every time the deadline would be met, he would always delay and delay it. The players got sick of it and most of them left.
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I understand what point you're trying to get across, but being nice and mean has little to do with how you help the server. I am not denying that it has any influence on the manager, but it's based solely in my opinion if the manager is doing his job as well as keeping staff in line. |
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I think sales will do a great job, congrats BRING BACK OLD KOTH FTW!!!! WHOSE WITH ME! Good luck in life deo. |
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I have no idea who you guys are talking about lol. Silly gooses.
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:o. Well, continue then. |
To be a good manager you need to have the motivation to get things done with the staff team you have, literally get on their cases about getting things done and constantly check on the progress. Provide the correct rights needed to do the job to that staff member and hire only people who have the talent to do the job. Not many people have this ability because you are doing it out of your own free time and not being paid to get a server developed, hence how staff tend to get lazy on projects because they just can't be bothered to finish it in time or work on it slow because they either have a life outside of graal or just enjoy being a staff member for the power.
Doesen't matter if the manager is mean or nice, it matters how they handle the situations that arrise and take authority. |
Well said daz.
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Late, but I think Ocelot would do a better job than Sales.
Numerous reasons, one and the largest is that Sales has lost all hope in this Era, he thinks its unable to be repaired therefore he'll waste countless hours building a new one while the state of this one worsens. While the success rate of his "new" is lower than Paris' Hilton's underwear, he'll still go through with it, and when the time comes to show the fruits of his labors, rather than people deciding if they like it or not, he'll force it on them because understandably, he doesn't like his work going in vein. Even if he is forewarned it might or would. While Ocelot, speaking out of speculation here, would most likely repair this Era, which is an easier and more doable task. Seeing as this Era isn't as lost a cause as Sales thinks. The 100 Players a day log on everyday, obviously this Era is doing something right. They don't log on to sit and wait for the new "Savior" being made on the Dev Server. Don't get me wrong though, two evils. I'd choose the lesser of the Evils, seeing as Ocelot comes jam-packed with his problems. Sales' just outweigh his. |
I demand a chart or something showing us Ocelot's problems and Sales' problems.
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I'm not development-stupid if that is where you're getting at. It always depends on the severity of the problem. If a car gets a scratch, I doubt its easier to change that entire section, rather than just having the body shop "repair" the location of the scratch.
Now if a car had several severe issues and is a burdon, it'd be easier to buy a new car rather than fix that one. Same with Era, Era has problems, but isn't at the point where it'd be easier to make a new Era, rather than repair this one. This is what separates the constructors, from the conductors. Developers will often do unnecessary, insignificant and often mundane things if left to work based on their will. Most of you need people to tell you what to do, and how it all fits together. This is why I'd prefer my manager either be a conductor, or both a constructor and a conductor. Never just a constructor, the ability to assess a situation, finding the problem and formulating the most efficient way of amending the matter. Whether he amends it himself, or directs a "constructor" to do so. Sales is a constructor Ocelot is a conductor Neither is both. |
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Andy did a really nice job rescripting a lot of Era's major codes, but Graal NATs have huge egos. they don't like using code that wasn't designed by them. in the end it winds up wasting time, but what can you do? everything Andy did on Era Dev was thrown away. it's a shame.
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Anyway, no Jr. I literally just explained the types of personality Ocelot and Sales have. I said for Management, I'd prefer a conductor over a constructor. Ocelot has the conductive personality/ideals, and Sales has the constructive. I never said being a Conductor is always better than being a Constructor. Quote:
Let see the pros and cons of "building a new server" rather than fixing this one, and when I said fixing, I didn't mean entirely on Scripts. (Which is what you all seem to be jabbering about. If the Dev Server is just renewed scripts, what a goddamn disappointment.) Era has many conductive problems as well. If you try to bypass fixing them by creating newer forms. You'd most likely face problems which the original method prevented / didn't have. New Server Time: Astronomical (Speculative) Chance of Success: Unknown Players #: Unknown Fixing This Server Time: (With the current scripting power), I'd give it less than a month and a half (script-wise), and the rest can be mapped/worked out while thats going on, Era has many conductive-problems as well. Ex. Gangs, Businesses, Events, etc. Player #: Can't do anything but increase. |
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1) Allowed corruption throughout his staff team. 2) Was always drunk on RC and wasn't able to even remotely make a logical decision. 3) Rude to people and harassed people. He's not a "conductor" according to your standards. Also, way to make a personal attack! |
Ok sorry but Ocelot would be a bad choice. When Ocelot got manager he took Pyro Tech from me and also ban me for not telling him Jenn Myspace YY and TSAdmin and globals can bounce for that. Sales might not do what normal managers do but face it look at the events he come out with ect. U know hes working on a complete different Era like his ideas will come real. If i was Sales and a manager too i wouldnt answer every single pms. Look at Rick never on the server but always develop it ect.
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Second, Ocelot banning you because you did not tell him a myspace? You must be making this up. I really don't think ANY manager would do it, even if the server would be under construction. (Maybe) |
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