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Darlene159 07-01-2009 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Exhausted (Post 1503311)
yeah.. an idea to get rid of the servers with little to no betters for the betterment of the servers that actually have players is a flat-out ridiculous idea *rolls eyes*

How is getting rid of playerworlds with few players going to better anything? The players will still be spread out like they are. There are players waiting for a better Classic, N-Pulse, and Delteria. Your idea would not make a recognizable difference.

Rufus 07-01-2009 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Darlene159 (Post 1503329)
How is getting rid of playerworlds with few players going to better anything? The players will still be spread out like they are. There are players waiting for a better Classic, N-Pulse, and Delteria. Your idea would not make a recognizable difference.

How would they remain "spread out" if there's smaller choice?

Darlene159 07-01-2009 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Rufus (Post 1503331)
How would they remain "spread out" if there's smaller choice?

You missed my point. If these playerworlds have hardly no players, it wont make much of a difference.

Rufus 07-01-2009 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Darlene159 (Post 1503332)
You missed my point. If these playerworlds have hardly no players, it wont make much of a difference.

It would make Graal look less thinned out though, I guess.

Pelikano 07-01-2009 05:30 PM

Exhausted I hate your posts so much.

You just state your own opinion as facts: "(it has the best dev team on graal)" and stuff like that.


to topic:

I think the idea sucks hard

kia345 07-01-2009 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Exhausted (Post 1503311)
yeah.. an idea to get rid of the servers with little to no betters for the betterment of the servers that actually have players is a flat-out ridiculous idea *rolls eyes*

How about we get rid of the servers that don't have the development team to make their own decent content?

Hiro 07-01-2009 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by kia345 (Post 1503340)
How about we get rid of the servers that don't have the development team to make their own decent content?

define "decent content" then

Exhausted 07-02-2009 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Nelm (Post 1503314)
It's the job of the current classic tabbed servers' management to supply their server with a staff capable of bettering their own server, not taking the best things from other servers that have a low player count.

The things on Classic/N-Pulse/Delteria have all been worked on hard by their respective staff members and the content on these servers belongs to the server, not to other servers who want a cheap way to add new content. This idea of deleting servers and giving away their content, which they painstakingly created, is ludicrous.

Removing these servers and giving away their content to another undeserving server is not going increase player count. The problem with player count has more to do with the actual game itself and it's various issues than any of the servers.

which playercount? graal's overall playercount or the server's playercount? each server has their own things that make the server fun, already.. just for some reason certain servers (Classic/npulse/delteria) have deteriorated over the years, so it only makes sense to remove them and give their content to servers that actually are living

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Originally Posted by Darlene159 (Post 1503329)
How is getting rid of playerworlds with few players going to better anything? The players will still be spread out like they are. There are players waiting for a better Classic, N-Pulse, and Delteria. Your idea would not make a recognizable difference.

yes it would. the servers given new content would be a lot better. they've been waiting for a better classic for how long? better npulse for how long? better delteria for how long? when is it time to pull the plug?

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Originally Posted by Darlene159 (Post 1503332)
You missed my point. If these playerworlds have hardly no players, it wont make much of a difference.

npulse has a small playercount.. if the server was deleted, it'd add 10-20 players to other servers. delteria usually has a few, and classic does too. their playercounts can never compete with UN/Era/Zod anymore.. even Valikorlia has more players then npulse/classic/delteria which is really really sad and proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that the servers are finished

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Originally Posted by kia345 (Post 1503340)
How about we get rid of the servers that don't have the development team to make their own decent content?

they can make their own content.. i'm just saying, deleting the useless servers for the advancement of the good ones is only a great idea.

once again there's a reason some servers have 'high' playercounts and others don't.

Hiro 07-02-2009 02:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Exhausted (Post 1503428)
which playercount? graal's overall playercount or the server's playercount? each server has their own things that make the server fun, already.. just for some reason certain servers (Classic/npulse/delteria) have deteriorated over the years, so it only makes sense to remove them and give their content to servers that actually are living

npulse has a small playercount.. if the server was deleted, it'd add 10-20 players to other servers. delteria usually has a few, and classic does too. their playercounts can never compete with UN/Era/Zod anymore.. even Valikorlia has more players then npulse/classic/delteria which is really really sad and proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that the servers are finished


they can make their own content.. i'm just saying, deleting the useless servers for the advancement of the good ones is only a great idea.

you are living in a fantasy world. let me enlighten you on a few things:

1) removing a playerworld and ten having another playerworld take over their "good" content is still basically stealing. i doubt any of the current managers would like to have all of their content moved onto a server they probably don't like or even play

2) if you deleted npulse and other playerworlds, it wouldn't add any number of players to another server. those players would just quit because now their home server is gone. they play those servers for a reason

3)"deleting the useless servers for the advancement of the good ones is only a great idea." so let's take this same sentence and put it into a different context:

"closing down useless businesses and other business venues for the advancement of monopolies for good companies is only a great idea."

or how about,

"closing down useless hospitals and other ET places in the community for the advancement of the good hospitals is only a great idea."

one more?

"closing down useless schools and other education services for the advancement of good schools is only a great idea."

i mean seriously, think before you write something as ignorant as that down and post it. it's plain stupid for my examples, and for graal

DustyPorViva 07-02-2009 02:15 AM

What makes anyone so sure deleting a server will mean players will just magically move to the next? If those players liked the other servers, wouldn't that mean they'd be there in the first place?

Rufus 07-02-2009 02:18 AM

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Originally Posted by DustyPorViva (Post 1503437)
What makes anyone so sure deleting a server will mean players will just magically move to the next? If those players liked the other servers, wouldn't that mean they'd be there in the first place?

Classic went down and the majority of those regular players are now on UN.

Nataxo 07-02-2009 03:38 AM

I dont support this idea.

Has to be a better solution.

DustyPorViva 07-02-2009 03:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Rufus (Post 1503438)
Classic went down and the majority of those regular players are now on UN.

Ya, but didn't they leave on their own will before it was ever thrown UC?

Exhausted 07-03-2009 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Hiro (Post 1503434)
you are living in a fantasy world. let me enlighten you on a few things:

1) removing a playerworld and ten having another playerworld take over their "good" content is still basically stealing. i doubt any of the current managers would like to have all of their content moved onto a server they probably don't like or even play

all content uploaded is technically the property of Graalonline. if stefan/unix agree with my idea they can do whatever they please.

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2) if you deleted npulse and other playerworlds, it wouldn't add any number of players to another server. those players would just quit because now their home server is gone. they play those servers for a reason
losing npulse's/classic's/other useless server's players isn't really that big of a lost.. the reward would outweigh the risk in this situation.. how can you prove they'd quit anyway?

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LOL you call my ideas ****ty but here you are comparing graal servers to irl businesses. moving along..

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i mean seriously, think before you write something as ignorant as that down and post it. it's plain stupid for my examples, and for graal
your examples are irrelevant to anything

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Originally Posted by Nataxo (Post 1503448)
I dont support this idea.

Has to be a better solution.

lol aren't you a trial?

Edit: btw Hiro, i rate your trolling a 1.4/10

Crono 07-03-2009 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Exhausted (Post 1503783)
LOL you call my ideas ****ty but here you are comparing graal servers to irl businesses. moving along..

It's called an analogy, and no one is surprised you didn't get it.

Exhausted 07-03-2009 08:34 AM

i did get it. comparing dead/dying graal servers and irl establishments is just silly.

Nelm 07-03-2009 11:10 AM

It's about as silly as saying that "dead/dying" servers should be deleted and their content should be given away to UN.

How about UN continues to develop their own, original content? Sounds good to me.

Exhausted 07-03-2009 11:20 AM

UN does develop their own original content and will continue to do so.

All of the servers I refer to have failed and probably will fail even more despite their huge "REBIRTH" attempts. Whenever these servers finally have zero players for good and everything is removed from the game entirely, it would just have been a huge waste, but if their content is moved to UN (or Val's to Zodiac) and they'd still be some use for it.

Everyone in this thread insults my idea while their own rebuttles are just silly (for the most part) and only disagree with it because they love the server even they barely play anymore :(

And seriously, look at these stupid negative reputation points I'm getting...

delete npulse/classic... 07-01-2009 11:03 PM Your such a mog
delete npulse/classic... 07-01-2009 01:49 PM noob
delete npulse/classic... 07-01-2009 08:12 AM >
delete npulse/classic... 06-30-2009 07:14 PM Now I understand why your rep is red.
delete npulse/classic... 06-30-2009 03:41 PM god your so stupid LOL


Calling a religious figure stupid is going way too far.

Nelm 07-03-2009 11:37 AM

I am well aware that UN develops their own content and will continue to do so. That's exactly why they don't need to have anyone else's content given to them. The team at UN is capable of creating new, original content on it's own. Adding in recycled levels, scripts, and NPCs from other servers is not going to improve UN because we have already seen all of this stuff before.

Graal needs creativity, not rehashes, or even worse in this case, complete rips from other servers. In no way, shape, or form does this idea improve Graal overall or UN as a server. And to be honest, if this ever happened I would stop playing whatever server took said dying server's content.

Your idea isn't even good to begin with so saying that others are replying with horrible rebuttals is like the pot calling the kettle black. This thread is well deserving of negative rep. So, after I'm done writing this I'll follow suit by neg-ing your rep.

Seriously...if these servers die, let them die in peace. There's no need for UN (or any other server for that matter) to take their content because as you previously said, they are fully capable of creating their own content.

P.S. Said religious figure would have a capital G, not lowercase.

Exhausted 07-03-2009 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Nelm (Post 1503812)
I am well aware that UN develops their own content and will continue to do so. That's exactly why they don't need to have anyone else's content given to them. The team at UN is capable of creating new, original content on it's own. Adding in recycled levels, scripts, and NPCs from other servers is not going to improve UN because we have already seen all of this stuff before.

Any server having a great wealth of graphics, scripts, etc, could benefit greatly from them. If anything, UN could make an Island called "Classic Island" (I'm bad with names) or something and have some of the servers main levels w/ it's activities (similar to Isle of Bane) and players could go to that island when they please.

I can't believe you think UN couldn't benefit from it... fowlplay4 (Manager of Zod) even said earlier he'd love to have a ton of graphics and such.

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Graal needs creativity, not rehashes, or even worse in this case, complete rips from other servers. In no way, shape, or form does this idea improve Graal overall or UN as a server. And to be honest, if this ever happened I would stop playing whatever server took said dying server's content.
UN has creativity, which is why they are working on their own things. In no way would it negatively affect the server itself to have new things. Who cares if you quit?

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This thread is well deserving of negative rep. So, after I'm done writing this I'll follow suit by neg-ing your rep
You act like I care if I get negative reputation points by someone who doesn't even have the slightest clue on what would improve the game or not.

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Seriously...if these servers die, let them die in peace. There's no need for UN (or any other server for that matter) to take their content because as you previously said, they are fully capable of creating their own content.
Why should the dead server's content go to waste? Old Delteria has nice events that could replace some of UN's or add onto their events.

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P.S. Said religious figure would have a capital G, not lowercase.
*rolls eyes* Didn't you see the rest of his comment had poor grammar?

Crono 07-03-2009 12:31 PM

Wait...wait...are you seriously still arguing for the removal of delteria/npulse/classic/valikorlia and having their content moved to servers like un and zodiac? LOL

Nelm 07-03-2009 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Exhausted (Post 1503814)
...by someone who doesn't even have the slightest clue on what would improve the game or not.

Yeah, because apparently I'm in the minority here when it comes to thinking that this idea doesn't promote creative/original growth. Seems like everyone is flocking to this thread to say how great this idea is.

"*rolls eyes*"

Exhausted 07-03-2009 01:03 PM

Does anyone with the slightest hint of intelligence visit these forums?
None of you have given any significant reasoning towards why this is a bad idea, and then you expect me to forfeit the argument.. I admit, there have been a FEW good points made, but seriously... Most of this thread has been random kids try to argue with me and when they lose their arguments degenerate into subtle insults (hi Hiro). Great job, guys.

Crono 07-03-2009 01:12 PM

I've got a better idea, let's delete UN and take it's good content and put it on Classic. This will save Classic and give UN a more appropriate name!

We can take Maloria and Zodiac, delete them, and put their good content on Valikorlia since it was the first RPG server and popularized the system anyway! This will give Valikorlia a lot of playercount and bring it back to it's old glorious days!

Exhausted 07-03-2009 01:14 PM

I rate your trolling a 0/10. Even worse then Hiro's rating. Congrats.

Crono 07-03-2009 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Exhausted (Post 1503822)
I rate your trolling a 0/10. Even worse then Hiro's rating. Congrats.

Why? You didn't give a valid argument against my fantastic idea, you're a hypocrite. It's sad when you have to hit me with a subtle insult such as calling me a troll. Great job, guy.

Exhausted 07-03-2009 01:18 PM

Still a 0/10 rating.

Nelm 07-03-2009 01:30 PM

Crono is bringing up valid points and you call him a troll? POT CALLING THE KETTLE BLACK AGAIN!!!!

maximus_asinus 07-03-2009 01:36 PM

No self respecting Manager would take content from another server. Why is this thread still open?

Exhausted 07-03-2009 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Nelm (Post 1503832)
Crono is bringing up valid points and you call him a troll? POT CALLING THE KETTLE BLACK AGAIN!!!!

I think I'm going to stop responding to stupid posts like this, all it does it make threads worse.

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Originally Posted by maximus_asinus (Post 1503836)
No self respecting Manager would take content from another server. Why is this thread still open?

It's because I presented a really good idea and the Classic/N-Pulse loyalists (one of them working for UN now....) are angry at the thought of their crappy "home" servers getting removed like they should be.

Nelm 07-03-2009 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Exhausted (Post 1503837)
I think I'm going to stop responding to stupid posts like this, all it does it make threads worse.



It's because I presented a really good idea and the Classic/N-Pulse loyalists (one of them working for UN now....) are angry at the thought of their crappy "home" servers getting removed like they should be.


The OP was about as bad as this thread will ever see.

I don't play Classic or N-Pulse, and tbh, I could care less if they got deleted. The part I disagree with is where you want to take content from the "crappy" servers and give it away.

maximus_asinus 07-03-2009 04:14 PM

I don't think the OP understands ethics, or morals. No matter how angry I might get about my home server going UC, I will never support something so cruel, and neither would anyone who has an ounce of self respect. No server deserves to be picked apart by some vulture team.

As far as ideas go, this is one of those "scraped off the bottom of the barrel" worst ideas ever.

Darlene159 07-03-2009 04:29 PM

This thread is ridiculous....


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