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I should probably post on topic but this thread is already a joke as it is.

Don't forget about getting globals involved over a 3 hour jailing because you couldn't stop massing profanity after multiple warnings

Classic is falling apart in the ugliest manner possible.

I suggest Classic be taken off the tab and worked on by a fresh set of developers for a year and focus on completing overworld and several quest contents WITHOUT player interference.

Afraid Classic won't return to the tab? What's the point? It's dead anyways, at least there's a chance of returning if we choose to take it off the tab right now and work on it before EVERYBODY gives up on it.

I was going to post something very similar last night, but I decided to go to bed. It's hard not to agree that Classic has been dragged through so much crap, it's reputation as a good server has been destroyed and very few seem to care. Those that did care received the same thing every year, and it looks like we're getting it in this thread too:

I don't know how many times this has to be posted before a change is coming, but after five years of reading the same thing it seems extremely unlikely that this is ever going to happen. Put the server out of its misery and shut it down because this is painful to watch. I think the only people who would have a problem with this are the people that feel like they've got some kind of power on the server. Maybe someday a competent set of developers might try and revive it in a rightful way, but it's clear that not one person on Classic has the ability to do it right now.

I doubt the server will ever be axed because of multiple reasons.
Some people still want their staff position on it and have personal benifits of it staying up.

I haven't been logging on classic lately because of disgust and boredom when being on it.

According to Storm, he's got a Masters degree (in Computer Science) and programs for a living, I can see where the inactivity would come from. Besides, I thought other people were put in charge as well to compensate for Storm being out so often?

It's hard enough to convince one manager to approve of big changes, but now we need to convince TWO.

Because the finest developers can be handpicked from the magical developer tree that grows in the backyard of your imagination zone.

That doesn't even make sense, nor is it witty. Try posting what you are actually trying to say instead of trying too hard and coming out with garbage.

I think Classic should just be removed until Stefan himself decides what to do with it.
All the bickering and arguing has gotten beyond ridiculous over this playerworld.

Not that hard to pick out what he is saying, good developers have not applied to Classic in awhile, there is no reason to.
Posting that it doesn't make sense either makes you retarded for not getting it, or a douche for trying to make a 'witty' comment off of a post needlessly.
Im gunning for the latter.

In that case it was a pointless response; it is not as though I haven't played and are not aware of the obvious reasoning behind developers not wanting to work on Classic. My closing statement was an approach at a means of a decent Classic revival, it doesn't mean that it would ever happen. Outlining that there is a problem with that at current does not hide that the server is being kept up on the off chance that the management and development staff might care to do something for once, like I stated in my original response.

There are many deeper reasons why people wont dev for classic besides the management. I've posted why several times in the past, The management is only one component.

Yes, obvious reasoning.

How? People pk, people spar, people have guild fights (let alone more than 2 guilds LOL), people mass, and when they're bored they play events for the sake of competition rather than having nothing else to do. Improving levels and useless NPCs doesn't detract from this Classic feel, as a matter of fact I recall a lot of Graal servers back in 2001 having useless NPCs.

I'm going to read into this the way I want to and decide you just called DC a joke.

high five

Classic has gone Under Construction until further notice.

There's a reason why people are going to UN instead of Classic now.
It has the highest playercount that uses the regular gameplay.

Players from classic transferring to UN is only making UN more fun.
If Classic was gone, everyone on classic would leave to UN, and I'd see all my UN and Classic buddies on the same server.
If UN was gone, I REALLY doubt the people from there are gonna all go to Classic.

Logging onto Classic is bringing nothing anymore. No one is on, no one is doing anything besides planting their butts on a chair and not doing anything.

There's nothing for me to GP because there's no one on causing trouble on the server.

The next time the playercount will rise is the monthly if nothing big is released, and you'll all think it's amazing how big the playercount is when it's nothing new. Maybe I should step into development to see what exactly is going on and what I can do to help, if there's even a possibility to get the server back on it's feet again.

ironic

wow

RIP Classic.

P.S I will help bring it back if Im the only dev left with hope.

Thanks for your unproductive post, Luda. You tend to do it a lot.

How was yours any more productive? Most posts are unproductive, including this one.

http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...38&postcount=5
http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...0&postcount=23
http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...8&postcount=28
http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...1&postcount=36
http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...4&postcount=39
http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...3&postcount=48
http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...8&postcount=61
http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...7&postcount=63

How were any of these productive at all?

i have pretty much the same point of view on classic as shimmy. i'm still waiting to talk to thor or storm (most likely thor i assume) regarding my division but i haven't seen him on when i'm on yet

dev cant help without a scripting force, I'm one out of three and have to do admin work and some of the work of the management aswell(since they cant seem to do their own). The other 2/3's of the scripting team are AWOL(Thor and Storm). Classic's custom systems as well as Classic's 5 year infamy with administration and management tend to draw scripters away. There isn't a whole hell of a lot anyone can do anymore. Especially at the rate things need to be done. I have the two managers on one simple quest yet it has gone 2 months without much scripting done.

in UC I hope they come to the realization that this scripted HD was a terrible idea, and revert.

No one wants to play on a server where the dev team fails. No one wants to dev for a server that the players never seem to be satisfied.

So we're stuck in a loop of destruction.

Classic used to be fun when we had 25-35 people on daily, had 2-3 GCs on to chain host, and had a decent variety of events being hosted. Of course this was 2-3 years ago, and by now we are far from these standards.

Can we return to this form, or even something decent? Not at this rate. No one wants to dev, no one wants to host, no one wants to log on. Until enough dedicated people join together, decide on a direction for the server, and take us there, Classic is not going to return to the list.

TBH I logged on graal before opening this thread, and simply laughed to myself when I didn't see classic on the list. As I said before, I'd still like to contribute to classic, and I hope many of you do as well.

i love how DC plays the blame game instead of doing something to, yknow, actually fix it when he is in a place of power to fix it

because there's a time when you got to admit the time to fix things has passed

you cant have one person script and manage the server all at once and especially at a fast rate is needed. I need more than myself scripting, I need more than myself logging on more than twice a week and actually doing scripting and management work.

Edit: Unless you find another person that will manage to play this game for around 12+ hours a day like Rufus, but who can do that and script, like Yen.

DC just feels like he's pulling a one man show since both the management are inactive ( to his eyes, i only see storm as the problem).

I hate how he sprouts all this dilemma to get his way, when most times it's not necessary, but you have to face the facts sometimes.

What happened to Ben Rain, Pelikano, and this new guy named Ven?

Everyone loses interest and goes inactive for one reason or another, Classic has had it for years, where only the dev admin would be scripting, and not have much in the way of a dev team, due to the fact that since I've seen storm manage, noone besides the dev admin stays interested very long scripting in a non admin position on classic. The only exception is when Night was always managing to have a scripter to himself for many years to develop for GC.

Kind of makes why the server is where it is at now kind of easier to see.

All I saw him do was warp around, be annoying and give himself NPCs.

Jade's still around.

Good sign.

now how about we get onto discussion about WHAT THE NEW SERVER SHOULD BE? (:

you guys should be able to rant about that

o wow ive never heard that 1 from u b4

so original

it is the truth