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Ravenblade1979 03-06-2009 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by MiniOne (Post 1471781)
@Jkool .. 10 - 15minutes? Do you even remember anything about before? Were events for Rps/Bps 10 - 15minutes? No.
They were at the very least 40minutes, but I guess ETs no longer need to be patient and watch the whole event, they'd much rather just spawn bots but I guess it's suppose to be fine since no one seems to remember how good a real event was.

Why host something with length when you can get impatient and abuse spawn bots and kill everyone.

MiniOne 03-06-2009 10:38 PM

Exactly

seanthien 03-06-2009 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by MiniOne (Post 1471781)
@Jkool .. 10 - 15minutes? Do you even remember anything about before? Were events for Rps/Bps 10 - 15minutes? No.

Are you serious? Most dm matches on events the time is set for like 20 minutes? It doesn't even get close to ending. It's 10-15 minutes.

jkool666 03-06-2009 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by MiniOne (Post 1471781)
@Jkool .. 10 - 15minutes? Do you even remember anything about before? Were events for Rps/Bps 10 - 15minutes? No.
They were at the very least 40minutes, but I guess ETs no longer need to be patient and watch the whole event, they'd much rather just spawn bots but I guess it's suppose to be fine since no one seems to remember how good a real event was.

Lol irl. False information again.
The max time that a Showdown can be set to is 1600 Seconds. 1600/60 = 26 minutes, 5 Minutes 30 Seconds of that time is spent in Dropship, so 20 minutes 30 seconds is max time of an in-game showdown match can last.

Now if the /setdeathmatchtime command can only go to 1600 seconds, how did we used to have 40 minute matches?

I should also add, that's just the Max time the showdown can be set to. Ever since I've been ET, ETs have been setting showdown time around 1200ish, sometimes lower. 1600 is more meant for hide and seek.

And finally, speaking as a player who participated in some of the first events ever hosted on Zone. No showdown has ever lasted that long.

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Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979 (Post 1471831)
Why host something with length when you can get impatient and abuse spawn bots and kill everyone.

You gotta stop making opinions based off what other people say... And Mr. I've hosted Many Events, shouldn't you have known that Showdown matches can only go to 1600 Seconds, and the time in dropship is counted in that time.

Pwnt @ Ravenblade/Minione.

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Originally Posted by seanthien (Post 1471897)
Are you serious? Most dm matches on events the time is set for like 20 minutes? It doesn't even get close to ending. It's 10-15 minutes.

Thank you Sean.

MiniOne 03-06-2009 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by jkool666 (Post 1471901)

You gotta stop making opinions based off what other people say... And Mr. I've hosted Many Events, shouldn't you have known that Showdown matches can only go to 1600 Seconds, and the time in dropship is counted in that time.

Pwnt @ Ravenblade/Minione.


Thank you Sean.

But yet you still spawn bots to kill people?
Why not just allow them to finish their spar?

jkool666 03-06-2009 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by MiniOne (Post 1471912)
But yet you still spawn bots to kill people?
Why not just allow them to finish their spar?

I love how you ignore the logic thrown at you xD.

I think I've spawned bots during a Showdown event... three times in total. Sue me.

Bots being spawned to quicken the event happens so rarely that it is hardly something to complain about xD. And since players have complained about it I've stoped doing it. (Unless ETs do it all the time and I'm not aware)

MiniOne 03-07-2009 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by jkool666 (Post 1471916)
I love how you ignore the logic thrown at you xD.

I think I've spawned bots during a Showdown event... three times in total. Sue me.

Bots being spawned to quicken the event happens so rarely that it is hardly something to complain about xD. And since players have complained about it I've stoped doing it. (Unless ETs do it all the time and I'm not aware)

I've only been in 1 weapon event on DM and that one event I was in you spawned bots >_<

Ravenblade1979 03-07-2009 04:52 AM

To be honest I think that the bots should be disabled and a new event be made that they are only enabled for. If people are complaining about them (and jesse other et's may be using them) then why not simply disable them and make a bot only planet where they can be enabled.

@jesse: you have hosted (or was it someone else) a few good spar bot survival events.

seanthien 03-07-2009 05:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979 (Post 1472023)
To be honest I think that the bots should be disabled and a new event be made that they are only enabled for. If people are complaining about them (and jesse other et's may be using them) then why not simply disable them and make a bot only planet where they can be enabled.

@jesse: you have hosted (or was it someone else) a few good spar bot survival events.

That's stupid imo. If you want a bot planet go ahead, taking the ability to spawn bots is freaking retarded. That's like taking away the ability to spawn bikes because we "already have a planet with them on there". Bots can be used for a few good things, and you never know when someone creative might come up with something good.

MiniOne 03-07-2009 09:20 AM

Bots are fun when used properly, though sometimes when used inappropriately it can be irritating and angers are few players. Saying this I'd prefer bots not being disabled, just used more productively.

Ravenblade1979 03-07-2009 05:04 PM

@seanthien: If there are complaints about them being used for the wrong purpose then one of three things is going to happen (especially if Stefan see's thread).

1) They will be permanently disabled
2) It will be told to jesse to only make them allowable on a few trusted et's accounts
3) a new planet is made where they are only allowed to be used freely.

seanthien 03-07-2009 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979 (Post 1472092)
@seanthien: If there are complaints about them being used for the wrong purpose then one of three things is going to happen (especially if Stefan see's thread).

1) They will be permanently disabled
2) It will be told to jesse to only make them allowable on a few trusted et's accounts
3) a new planet is made where they are only allowed to be used freely.

Rofl, and you know that how? It's not like ALL of zone is on the forums going "NO MAOR BOTZ!!!!!". The most that should be done is it should be used for better things Not sure if jesse did was the right thing or not, but if not i'm sure he can use it for more productive things. Making them disabled and a new planet would be just stupid right now.

bahamutstevetff 03-07-2009 08:46 PM

zone players love it when bots are spawned, my bot spawning spree in the spar bot room was a hit.

MiniOne 03-08-2009 12:06 AM

Bots are cool when used properly.

Ravenblade1979 03-08-2009 04:55 PM

@sean: you need to learn how to read english. I gave the 3 possible outcomes that would happen if stefan seen this and decided that they were being abused. Although it doesn't sound like they are anymore.

The only reason people love mass spawn bots when used properly is for the kills and the ranks.

seanthien 03-08-2009 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979 (Post 1472316)
@sean: you need to learn how to read english. I gave the 3 possible outcomes that would happen if stefan seen this and decided that they were being abused. Although it doesn't sound like they are anymore.

The only reason people love mass spawn bots when used properly is for the kills and the ranks.

Ok, so you're that confident that justbecause he saw you complain he's going to do something? Ya, sure.
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Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979 (Post 1472316)
Although it doesn't sound like they are anymore.

Way to base your opinion on what steve said.


QUOTE=Ravenblade1979;1472316]The only reason people love mass spawn bots when used properly is for the kills and the ranks.[/QUOTE] Yes raven, and making a planet of them is alot better for the bots rank then ets having events for them. Ya, I feel stupid.:rolleyes:

MiniOne 03-09-2009 07:42 AM

Bot planet is stupid but spawning bots isn't, if a ET uses them responsibly then it can turn out quite fun. I think when hiring a ET you should be a question asking them how they will plan on using Bots, and if they abuse this power they should be suspended or fired.

Ravenblade1979 03-09-2009 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by MiniOne (Post 1472517)
Bot planet is stupid but spawning bots isn't, if a ET uses them responsibly then it can turn out quite fun. I think when hiring a ET you should be a question asking them how they will plan on using Bots, and if they abuse this power they should be suspended or fired.


Lets not guess how many would lie about this lol.

MiniOne 03-10-2009 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979 (Post 1472597)
Lets not guess how many would lie about this lol.

Point taken. Well you could just give the right to certain ETs like the /get right.

Ravenblade1979 03-10-2009 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by MiniOne (Post 1472867)
Point taken. Well you could just give the right to certain ETs like the /get right.

Yeah. If they lie remove the right but by then the damage has been done.

MiniOne 03-11-2009 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979 (Post 1472933)
Yeah. If they lie remove the right but by then the damage has been done.

What I was saying was only allow certain people who are trusted by Jkool to have access to the right, just like how only experienced ETs are allowed to have access to the /get right.

Ravenblade1979 03-11-2009 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by MiniOne (Post 1473074)
What I was saying was only allow certain people who are trusted by Jkool to have access to the right, just like how only experienced ETs are allowed to have access to the /get right.


actually the /get command is rare for any ET beyond jesse to have.

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MiniOne 03-12-2009 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979 (Post 1473117)
actually the /get command is rare for any ET beyond jesse to have.

It's accessible by Shadow (IXIs_Last_Stand) but you get my concept correct?
If not I meant only allow trusted ETs with the spawn bot command.

Ravenblade1979 03-12-2009 08:31 AM

Oh I understood and am sure that Jesse is handling this.

MiniOne 03-12-2009 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979 (Post 1473391)
Oh I understood and am sure that Jesse is handling this.

Does Jkool have the rights to adjust the rights of other ETs or is that a Admins (Dan) job? Just curious.

Ravenblade1979 03-12-2009 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by MiniOne (Post 1473407)
Does Jkool have the rights to adjust the rights of other ETs or is that a Admins (Dan) job? Just curious.


As ETA I am sure that he does.

jkool666 03-12-2009 09:57 PM

If /spawnbot was logged then it doens't matter as much if I do or don't trust someone with it, because I'll see them using it anyway ;P. So rather then make it add/removeable, maybe just Log it.

/get is the only command that can be taken/removed from ETs at the moment, and no I don't have the ability to do this.

The other commands CAN be taken away, but it's either all or nothing, I can't remove indivdual commands.

seanthien 03-12-2009 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by jkool666 (Post 1473514)
If /spawnbot was logged then it doens't matter as much if I do or don't trust someone with it, because I'll see them using it anyway ;P. So rather then make it add/removeable, maybe just Log it.

/get is the only command that can be taken/removed from ETs at the moment, and no I don't have the ability to do this.

The other commands CAN be taken away, but it's either all or nothing, I can't remove indivdual commands.

Cough /remove eventsadmin
rite.

Ravenblade1979 03-13-2009 03:06 AM

Hey now as much as me and jesse don't like each other I will defend him being ETA. Besides Dante he's the best zone has seen.

MiniOne 03-13-2009 09:27 AM

*Cough* You forgot Huwa and Jo they were awesome. Not sure if they were ETA or admins but they were awesome :)

Log it then if people report them using bots for abuse, you'd have proof since if you can record the server time and the date and give it to you then it's simple.

Dan can change people's rights correct?

Ravenblade1979 03-13-2009 03:40 PM

Whoops forgot about Huwa and Jo I didn't know.

jkool666 03-13-2009 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979 (Post 1473669)
Hey now as much as me and jesse don't like each other I will defend him being ETA. Besides Dante he's the best zone has seen.

I don't mind you as a person, we just argue ;P. And thank you :).

But I think Sean was referring to the command, /removeeventsadmin, which removes ETs, not removing me.

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Originally Posted by seanthien (Post 1473517)
Cough /remove eventsadmin
rite.

Please re-read what I typed... I mean, you did bold/underline it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jkool666 (Post 1473514)
The other commands CAN be taken away, but it's either all or nothing, I can't remove indivdual commands.

I was saying that I don't have the ability to remove a specific command, for example removing /spawnbot from an ET. But I do have the ability to remove ALL their commands.

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Originally Posted by MiniOne (Post 1473752)
*Cough* You forgot Huwa and Jo they were awesome.

Jo was quite an abusive ET. And thats just what I could see in-game without looking at the logs. Upon quitting he closed every planet and logged off xD.

Ravenblade1979 03-13-2009 05:42 PM

@jesse: yeah well lets stop arguing lol. I actually enjoyed working for ya and I was actually meaning to defend you from earlier anyways. Its not easy being ETA as you can tell so many people. You should talk to dan or stefan about giving you the right to remove specific rights that way its easier.

MiniOne 03-14-2009 12:00 AM

Jo and Mike basically were both abusive but they made it fun :) I liked Jo's period as admin xD that was funny.

Huwa was great :) He hardly abused when I was on.

seanthien 03-14-2009 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by MiniOne (Post 1474051)
Jo and Mike basically were both abusive but they made it fun :) I liked Jo's period as admin xD that was funny.

Huwa was great :) He hardly abused when I was on.

Huwa was fun, but there were times he wasn't as fun. :(
Aha, I love jo xd, he's awesome.

MiniOne 03-14-2009 12:39 AM

Huwa was probably the best Admin.
Crono the best ET :D
CRONO COME BACKKKK


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