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MiniOne 02-25-2009 10:23 AM

Manager's of a server should be aloud to enjoy Graal as much as you and me.
Therefore Deophite should be aloud to enjoy his time on UN, as I've noticed nothing has really screwed up on Era and the server is running fine which means his maintaining it well. Therefore his a good manager :)

CharlieM 02-25-2009 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ABERCROMBIEFITCH (Post 1469284)
(..)

Your post makes no sense but from what I picked up you didn't get accepted as staff or got fired.

salesman 02-25-2009 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ABERCROMBIEFITCH (Post 1469284)
Uhh, the just alright doesn't count as favorable, and still.. 12 people think your a horrible manager out of the few who read this post.. thats pretty bad even if its in favor of ok. lolololol

Also notice all those who voted good are staff under his wing of the staff team.

Squirt - GP Admin
Gabriel- GP
Nataxo- a FAQ.
Daz - Biz Admin
DH - Ex LAT about 2 days ago.

What a bunch of kiss asses.

If the staff under him are happy, that usually means he's doing his job pretty well (considering they're the ones who know better than anyone else what he's doing). Though, they could just be ass-kissing because it's a public poll.

Elizabeth 02-25-2009 08:49 PM

whine whine cry whine cry cry

deophite is actually doing things for the server, ungrateful eraians.

DarkRenji 02-25-2009 09:52 PM

I voted totally awesome because im totally awesome and one day it might rub off on him.

Frankie 02-25-2009 10:05 PM

I think Deo is getting way too much credit than he deserves.

From what I see, it's the developers that are putting the most effort into the server. Deo is just the guy that sits there approving projects that are brought up by players and other staff members. Why not show appreciation to the people that are actually making things happen? Anyone can sit there and tell people what to do.

papajchris 02-25-2009 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by CharlieM (Post 1469128)
Lrn2rdplz? You lead an online gang, and with his gang system you would not have it anymore.

Nas gave LC up.... Stop saying he owns it x_x

papajchris 02-25-2009 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 1469417)
I think Deo is getting way too much credit than he deserves.

From what I see, it's the developers that are putting the most effort into the server. Deo is just the guy that sits there approving projects that are brought up by players and other staff members. Why not show appreciation to the people that are actually making things happen? Anyone can sit there and tell people what to do.

He may be getting the credit, but he also gets the negativity

Rufus 02-25-2009 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 1469417)
I think Deo is getting way too much credit than he deserves.

From what I see, it's the developers that are putting the most effort into the server. Deo is just the guy that sits there approving projects that are brought up by players and other staff members.

What do you think managers do?

Frankie 02-25-2009 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Rufus (Post 1469420)
What do you think managers do?

My expectations from a Graal server manager are a lot bigger than to just sit on RC and tell people what to do.

DarkRenji 02-25-2009 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by papajchris (Post 1469418)
Nas gave LC up.... Stop saying he owns it x_x

that post was before he gave it up

Rufus 02-25-2009 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 1469421)
My expectations from a Graal server manager are a lot bigger than to just sit on RC and tell people what to do.

Like what? Typical roles or qualities required of management include leadership, providing motivation, team building, planning, reviewing and liaising with both players and members of staff. Deo has shown all of these qualities, there are no outstanding issues, so therefore one would assume that he is deserving of any credit he might receive.

salesman 02-25-2009 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Rufus (Post 1469428)
Like what? Typical roles or qualities required of management include leadership, providing motivation, team building, planning, reviewing and liaising with both players and members of staff. Deo has shown all of these qualities, there are no outstanding issues, so therefore one would assume that he is deserving of any credit he might receive.

Just curious...how often do you play Era? I don't get on very often, but when I did, I don't remember seeing you very much.

Rufus 02-25-2009 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by salesman (Post 1469431)
Just curious...how often do you play Era? I don't get on very often, but when I did, I don't remember seeing you very much.

I don't play Era, but I know a lot of the current staff. As the manager deals with the staff, while the development administrator (or whatever position Tig has) deals with the development, I don't have to be a player to understand if Deophite is doing his job or not.

BlackSolider 02-25-2009 11:26 PM

What the hell would you do as manager?

Work yourself to death or slack off and let your underlings do it?

If you answer the former then either you're a liar or a good employee.

DustyPorViva 02-25-2009 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 1469421)
My expectations from a Graal server manager are a lot bigger than to just sit on RC and tell people what to do.

If you're expecting a manager to have to develop, you're expecting too much of management. It helps to know how to develop, but you can manage just fine without being able to. It's all about managing your server - keeping it in tact.

salesman 02-25-2009 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackSolider (Post 1469440)
What the hell would you do as manager?

Work yourself to death or slack off and let your underlings do it?

If you answer the former then either you're a liar or a good employee.

Sitting around doing nothing is not fun for a lot of people...it's not like you're getting paid to be the manager, so why not do something?

In order to become the manager in the first place you either have to kiss the right asses or you work your own ass off. Either way, I doubt your end goal is to slack off.

BlackSolider 02-26-2009 12:27 AM

I never said he'd do nothing. Honestly I don't know what he does or what he doesn't do. All I'm saying is either you can overwork yourself or let other people do the dirty work. Since theres no reward by personally doing it (unless you just feel like accomplishing something), I wouldn't be surprised if he let his underlings handle most of the work.

zim5354 02-26-2009 03:18 AM

I believe Deo has good intentions, but due to his lack of experience on Era I really don't know what to expect.

DazJenova 02-26-2009 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 1469417)
I think Deo is getting way too much credit than he deserves.

From what I see, it's the developers that are putting the most effort into the server. Deo is just the guy that sits there approving projects that are brought up by players and other staff members. Why not show appreciation to the people that are actually making things happen? Anyone can sit there and tell people what to do.

I agree Frankie us the developers are working hard but we never get any credit when it's deserved. I have to say though isn't that mostly a managers job is to approve of things and making sure everythings running smoothly, you don't have to develop when you are a manager but people like to myself and others.

Andre2006 02-26-2009 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by DazJenova (Post 1469675)
I agree Frankie us the developers are working hard but we never get any credit when it's deserved. I have to say though isn't that mostly a managers job is to approve of things and making sure everythings running smoothly, you don't have to develop when you are a manager but people like to myself and others.

You are doing a good job Daz, an awesome job, I love what I've seen :D

DazJenova 02-26-2009 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Andre2006 (Post 1469677)
You are doing a good job Daz, an awesome job, I love what I've seen :D

Not just me though, the other developers like DH/Angel/Chris/Cain/Etrican working hard also which is good to see.

Frankie 02-26-2009 06:23 PM

I've seen managers put in 10x more effort into their server than what Deo is doing. Can't really blame me for having high expectations.

MysticX2X 02-26-2009 06:25 PM

Deo's cool but Era has been the same thing for the past year.

I voted absolutely terrible as a joke btw.

DazJenova 02-26-2009 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 1469685)
I've seen managers put in 10x more effort into their server than what Deo is doing. Can't really blame me for having high expectations.

That's true but Deo's not a developer.

Frankie 02-26-2009 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DazJenova (Post 1469688)
That's true but Deo's not a developer.

Exactly my point? Why not put a manager in place that can do what Deo's doing, plus more?

TheMaestro 02-26-2009 06:52 PM

I voted Terrible because I laughed at previous posts.

zim5354 02-27-2009 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by DazJenova (Post 1469684)
Not just me though, the other developers like DH/Angel/Chris/Cain/Etrican working hard also which is good to see.

lawl, was that a joke? if it wasn't due to his connections he would have been fired long ago, his levels are sub par and lack any form of originality.

papajchris 02-27-2009 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by DazJenova (Post 1469684)
Not just me though, the other developers like DH/Angel/Chris/Cain/Etrican working hard also which is good to see.

You don't have to be dev to make a difference. I'd like to think many of the non dev have made a difference into era. Which shows you do not need dev skills to necessarily make a difference. For example:

-Zoo, was an active and loyal eta
-Squirt, Loyal and active GPA

and i think some of the FAQ's deserve some recognition too. Rachel, Sigma, and Nataxo, are really active FAQ's.

(I didn't feel like naming the active Et's and Gp's but you get my point <3)

When your a new player to a server you don't care about who the dev team is. You care about who the people are thats going to be helping you. Having the people mentioned above im sure helped many new people come to Era, just as having great dev work does. Okay with my shout outs aside, I think Deophite is a great manager, and im not saying it becuase im staff; im saying it because so far he has been there when the money was spawned, when items were spawned, and such. He's active on Era, which is an important feature for a manager. He may not always be on player, he is always somewhere to be found, whether its on RC, or im sure on AIM. We have had managers that are Devs and fail, so having Dev skills make no difference.

Eclipse 02-27-2009 06:57 AM

I voted totally awsome, because if i voted horrible like i wanted to, he would just remove all chances of me owning a gang, as he did to rave and eggroll Shack.

I think if anyone Daz deserves to be manager, and like daz said all the credit goes to Tig/angel/etrican/dh/ blah blah, NOT DEO.

And because hes not currupt and doesnt abuse is a HORRIBLE reason to keep someone as manager, reguardless of how much past managers screwed up it never caused this much of a outrage between the Era community. Look at Smu he USD'd for like 2 grand but even after that no one ran to the forums and made a poll about how horrible he was

xJenn 02-27-2009 07:19 AM

Lol.
Anyone else besides Deo for manager.
Actually..
Even though they gave me a hard time o-o;; I want Icarus' era back xD!
Frankie for manager? =D

Tigairius 02-27-2009 08:15 AM

Closed at creator's request.


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