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Elizabeth 02-07-2009 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Dan (Post 1463980)
Hehe

don't EVER forget his request. ever.

jurre24d 02-07-2009 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979 (Post 1463929)
me best staff......well jesse would disagree.

Would get into it but he would deny what happened that day anyways even though we both know the truth.

Trial system gone...hmmmm well thats a good step i guess. Playercount must be down though.

No one cars what jesse said.
The PLAYERS on zone knows what's going on.
The best time on Zone was the time with ''Raven''
I believe the other players agree with me.

Crono 02-07-2009 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by jurre24d (Post 1463995)
The best time on Zone was the time with ''Raven''
I believe the other players agree with me.

You have no idea what the "best time on Zone" was, you haven't been around long enough. Stop making such sweeping statements, it's almost offensive to us older players who have been through Zone since way early 2004.

pico57 02-07-2009 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Elizabeth (Post 1463984)
don't EVER forget his request. ever.

hehe added, on my signature =)

Crow 02-07-2009 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Crono (Post 1463997)
You have no idea what the "best time on Zone" was, you haven't been around long enough. Stop making such sweeping statements, it's almost offensive to us older players who have been through Zone since way early 2004.

I completely agree, and I even go that far and say that is is offensive :/

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Originally Posted by jurre24d (Post 1463995)
The PLAYERS on zone knows what's going on.

The majority of Zone's playerbase is worse than its content.

jkool666 02-07-2009 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Crono (Post 1463997)
You have no idea what the "best time on Zone" was, you haven't been around long enough. Stop making such sweeping statements, it's almost offensive to us older players who have been through Zone since way early 2004.

COMPLETELY agree.

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Originally Posted by Elizabeth (Post 1463984)
don't EVER forget his request. ever.

I'm not going anywhere, no worries :].

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Originally Posted by jurre24d (Post 1463995)
I believe the other players agree with me.

Other players that dislike me, who tend to break rules quite frequently which I am required to punish them for... Ironically.

MiniOne 02-08-2009 12:45 AM

I'd like that all dutchies (the guild) we're removed ;)
server was hella alot better without those abusers...
and gelat *****s >_<

and yea trial system as well as old schoolness (2004 times) =D

Jesper 02-08-2009 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by MiniOne (Post 1464061)
I'd like that all dutchies (the guild) we're removed ;)
server was hella alot better without those abusers...

Omg, why everyone has bad ideas about Dutchies ?
Look nowadays, not in the past.

jurre24d 02-08-2009 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Jesper (Post 1464062)
Omg, why everyone has bad ideas about Dutchies ?
Look nowadays, not in the past.


They have to blame some people.

Ravenblade1979 02-08-2009 06:05 PM

Response to Jkool666's original post (Clarified as I removed response to editted post - Supernanny)

To your last response though...you outright told someone they would never be a ET as long as you were ETA. This person didn't even have a shot at proving they could do the job.

Its not just punishing them, its other things as well that people are mad at you about.

Also I don' see how you being fired would mess up zone. I think if dante or dan or even supernanny went it might but I have heard nothing but complaints about you. I even passed them onto stefan and dan because I was sick of hearing them.

You should ask the people who want me back why they actually do. You would be pleasently suprised as to their reasoning. Anyways lets stop with this and get back on the topic at hand shall we.

jkool666 02-08-2009 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979 (Post 1464214)
To your last response though...you outright told someone they would never be a ET as long as you were ETA. This person didn't even have a shot at proving they could do the job.

Are you actually suggesting that everyone on Zone deserves a chance at ET? Have you seen the player base on Zone lately? Oh never mind you haven’t you don’t play Zone.

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Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979 (Post 1464214)
Also I don' see how you being fired would mess up zone. I think if dante or dan or even

You’re aware that Dante hasn’t done much for Zone in a couple months? Oh wait you don’t play Zone, right.
I don’t mean that offensively toward Dante either, when he put forth the effort he was an incredible Administrator.

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Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979 (Post 1464214)
I have heard nothing but complaints about you.

1. Why would anyone message you something positive about me?
2. Everyone has complaints made about them, but I bet the complaints you've recieved make up about... 1 Percent (tops) of the total population on Zone.
3. You've been known to blow little things out of proportion. That being a big reason you were fired.

Raven, stop argueing. You just told me to give people a chance who:
-Can't write a good application
-Can't speak fluent English
-Can't be trusted with Minor GP commands
-Have done nothing to earn my trust
-Have done things to disregard trusting them

You might not be aware you just told me that, probably because...
You don't play Zone!

bahamutstevetff 02-08-2009 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979 (Post 1464214)
Response to Jkool666's original post (Clarified as I removed response to editted post - Supernanny)

To your last response though...you outright told someone they would never be a ET as long as you were ETA. This person didn't even have a shot at proving they could do the job.

these people aren't the brightest and therefore common sence dictates making them ET would be the equivilent of making daffy duck the president of USA.

anubis_wing 02-08-2009 08:56 PM

The dutchies are the ones who play Zone the most, but are unimaginably immature and disillusioned. They think that their friends would be a good choice for ET's but they have no idea.

jurre24d 02-08-2009 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by anubis_wing (Post 1464272)
The dutchies are the ones who play Zone the most, but are unimaginably immature and disillusioned. They think that their friends would be a good choice for ET's but they have no idea.

Dutchies is a big word. Could you be more specific about the people who wants to become ET?

Jesper 02-08-2009 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by jurre24d (Post 1464276)
Dutchies is a big word. Could you be more specific about the people who wants to become ET?

Everyone want to be ET i think.

kia345 02-08-2009 09:57 PM

Improve Zone in one easy step.


Eliminate playerchat.

pico57 02-08-2009 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Jesper (Post 1464293)
Everyone want to be ET i think.

Probably, yes
xD

Ravenblade1979 02-08-2009 11:18 PM

Jesse you should see if dan or stefan have a copy of the complaints I sent to them. I sent the stuff in exactly as I was told it.

About the someone not being ET as long as you are ETA. It just sounded like it was something personal is all.

MiniOne 02-09-2009 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by jurre24d (Post 1464159)
They have to blame some people.

I'm not blaming anyone, I'm just saying that because its a fact that dutchies (some of them e.g. joris) ruin the server through free killing themselves and abusing glitches as well as flaming/sliming/ mortaring bunker doors and etc.

Its a fact and Im sure more then half the server has seen dutchies do this

RevolutionJS 02-09-2009 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by jkool666 (Post 1464233)
Are you actually suggesting that everyone on Zone deserves a chance at ET? Have you seen the player base on Zone lately? Oh never mind you haven’t you don’t play Zone.

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Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979 (Post 1464214)
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To your last response though...you outright told someone they would never be a ET as long as you were ETA. This person didn't even have a shot at proving they could do the job.

I think this is kinda about me, I know I dont have a chance to become ET as long youre ETA.
I talked much with Ravenblade and he knows a other side from me.
A much more smart and serious side, Same for dennis, I talked very much to him to and he know a bit of that side to.
Jesse, you had kinda like a bad idea from Jasper but when you made him PA he went onother person and show his serious smart side.

RevolutionJS 02-09-2009 02:51 PM

I agree that you don't need to be able to write a good application, the current ETs are maybe good writers but they are far away from being good Hosters.

jurre24d 02-09-2009 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by MiniOne (Post 1464459)
I'm not blaming anyone, I'm just saying that because its a fact that dutchies (some of them e.g. joris) ruin the server through free killing themselves and abusing glitches as well as flaming/sliming/ mortaring bunker doors and etc.

Its a fact and Im sure more then half the server has seen dutchies do this

''Some of them''
Ok I agree with that, but you still can't say: Dutchies.
With dutchies you mean Me and you mean Daniel and other innocent people.

DuBsTeRmAn 02-09-2009 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by MiniOne (Post 1464459)
I'm not blaming anyone, I'm just saying that because its a fact that dutchies (some of them e.g. joris) ruin the server through free killing themselves and abusing glitches as well as flaming/sliming/ mortaring bunker doors and etc.

Its a fact and Im sure more then half the server has seen dutchies do this

HEY YOU. DONT TALK BAD ABOUT THA DUTCHIES!

Dutchies are coowl <3

Dante55555 02-09-2009 09:21 PM

I'm just going to say right now that if you have an issue with Jesse you may Forum PM Daniel or myself about it. I don't want to see anymore of this "Let's flame Jesse" on the forums. He does an excellent job and puts up with quite a lot.

I feel safe leaving Zone in his hands while I attend to the things that have been occuring in real life that have kept me far too busy (Job, School, Family issues, etc.) to deal with Zone.

I'll elaborate when I get to Jesse's post.

Anyway:

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Originally Posted by RevolutionJS (Post 1463503)
I would give comando class back to the trials.

Only if you take something away in exchange, such as stats being saved.

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Originally Posted by Liberated (Post 1463504)
i would remove gelat system, atleast the zone gelat shop.

Don't get your hopes up..

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Originally Posted by Jesper (Post 1463517)
I should give trials more rights, and put some gelat weapons into the trader, like every week another weapons.

And there should be weekly a new update, example a new weapons or a new other thing xD

Your first idea, no. I actually ran something similar to it by Stefan a while ago. Putting a different gelat weapon in the trader every week, switching them out with new ones, etc. He said "uhm don't think it would work".

Ah, Stefan logic...it's beyond all of us.

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Originally Posted by DuBsTeRmAn (Post 1463551)
I would fire Jesse.. He sucks, And lots other's agree with me.

I certaintly don't.

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Originally Posted by Crono (Post 1463665)
Go back to Zone 2004.

CRONO HAS SPOKEN.

I have to say something though, Cronosauraus, that you may or may not agree with. I think the thing that made Zone so amazing back in the day was, in all honesty, the community.

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Originally Posted by Crow (Post 1464010)
The majority of Zone's playerbase is worse than its content.

Agreed.

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Originally Posted by jkool666 (Post 1464233)
You’re aware that Dante hasn’t done much for Zone in a couple months? Oh wait you don’t play Zone, right.
I don’t mean that offensively toward Dante either, when he put forth the effort he was an incredible Administrator.

I've been very busy with my job and school. I had explained this to Dan but never thought to make a thread.

Also, in the coming months you won't see much of me because, unfortunately, my mothers health has taken a turn for the worst. Unlike Dan, who isn't overly fond of his mother, I'm a mama's boy...so I'm taking it pretty hard.

Sorry for the inconvenience.

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Originally Posted by kia345 (Post 1464295)
Improve Zone in one easy step.


Eliminate playerchat.

Haha :]

jurre24d 02-09-2009 09:30 PM

So, we don't have any ideas to change Zone?

RevolutionJS 02-09-2009 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Dante55555 (Post 1464656)
Unlike Dan, who isn't overly fond of his mother

Why we need to know that?

jkool666 02-09-2009 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Dante55555 (Post 1464656)
I've been very busy with my job and school. I had explained this to Dan but never thought to make a thread.

I know you’ve been busy with much more important things, Dante. That’s why I said I didn’t mean it offensively. When people ask where you’ve been I tell them what you told me ;).

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Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979 (Post 1464315)
About the someone not being ET as long as you are ETA. It just sounded like it was something personal is all.

Raven, I know who you’re talking about (it’s not Revo).
You are right in one sense, I was wrong to tell them they would never be ET.
But, I only said that because I STRONGLY STRONGLY believe that during my term as ETA that person will NEVER meet my standards in.
-Activity
-Maturity
-Trust
If this person can change those things for a LONG-TERM, I’ll reconsider my previous statements.

By the way, in this thread they’ve already made a complete ass of themselves 2 times. You only see things from one side Raven, perhaps because YOU DON’T PLAY ZONE.

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Originally Posted by RevolutionJS (Post 1464506)
I think this is kinda about me, I know I dont have a chance to become ET as long youre ETA.

Revo, nearly every week you break rules. Right now I’ve been told to ban you on sight if you glitch abuse. What does that tell me about the way you play Zone? Also, you can’t just act mature for a week and think that I’ll forget all of the ways you have destroyed my trust in you in the past.
*Note, We only ban players who glitch abuse if they do it extremely frequently.

Dante55555 02-10-2009 03:52 AM

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Originally Posted by RevolutionJS (Post 1464679)
Why we need to know that?

It was used to help you understand the impact this is having on me. If Dan has a problem with it he can Forum PM me and I'll remove it.

RealDDc 02-10-2009 04:04 AM

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Originally Posted by RevolutionJS (Post 1463503)
If you could change one thing on Zone, what would it be?

Remove guest system.

Edit: No wait, I would even out my usually broke zone money account balance.

RevolutionJS 02-10-2009 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by jkool666 (Post 1464774)
Revo, nearly every week you break rules. Right now I’ve been told to ban you on sight if you glitch abuse. What does that tell me about the way you play Zone? Also, you can’t just act mature for a week and think that I’ll forget all of the ways you have destroyed my trust in you in the past.
*Note, We only ban players who glitch abuse if they do it extremely frequently.

I do this because I dont feel a possibillty that I will ever get a little chance as ET.
if you ever had said something like:
''Revo, if youre normal next # weeks then i ll give u a very small chance'''
I would go 300% for that Very small chance!
But now im not motivated to stop with what im doing.

MiniOne 02-10-2009 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by RevolutionJS (Post 1464506)
I think this is kinda about me, I know I dont have a chance to become ET as long youre ETA.
I talked much with Ravenblade and he knows a other side from me.
A much more smart and serious side, Same for dennis, I talked very much to him to and he know a bit of that side to.
Jesse, you had kinda like a bad idea from Jasper but when you made him PA he went onother person and show his serious smart side.

xD well if you have a serious and smart side maybe you should show the community of zone instead of running around a map glitching at every possible instance and flying away like a little noob :)

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Originally Posted by jurre24d (Post 1463995)
No one cars what jesse said.
The PLAYERS on zone knows what's going on.
The best time on Zone was the time with ''Raven''
I believe the other players agree with me.

Simply i ask how long have you played zone?
Were you here during its golden era, when we had pros everywhere and the server had a huge playercount compared to now, when the community was friendly and talkative and the game was at its peak? I don't believe you were.... (I'm talking about 2004 - 2005 days :) those were the best zone days EVER!)

And Finally if you really think Jesse (Jkool) Is Incompetent then your a real idiot... since though he doesn't favor friends, he looks at most point a views when banning someone, locking and etc.. and his choices for ET are extremely wise and well thought out, he doesn't favor friends for that either or you'd see just a huge bunch of oldbies as ETs
And Dutchies (Guild) (Excluding Dan) Don't complain that you don't get ET if your abusive... Its your own fault... also if your immature like me :) don't complain either,
And Jesper for example doesn't abuse and is from the 'Dutchies' guild, which shows everyone gets a fair shot at ET which is the main responsibility of a ETA, which Jesse has done well :)

So I'd Like To Say GOOD WORK JESSE! :D

Schetti 02-10-2009 10:49 AM

Hoste SOME lifetime weap events. Maybe 1 in moht, but ANY!(probably xx people alrdy posted this idea but I am to bored to read 5 sides...)
Anyway, its a chance to put the playercount high.
Players would train more, to get perm weaps in event. Player WOULD have to train if thy really want perm weaps.
I played a lot to trian but now I dont play Zone anymore, because there is no sense.
I always dream to have a perm redpistol.

We also MUST do something against HQRaids(sorry, if you already brang that away but I dont think so)
Look at Bunker. Totally fails all I know. It's LAME. If I found a good weap(chaingun,gold weap) and go to enemy HQ, I CANT lose.
CMON! Greenriffle vs Knife? doesnt sound like fun.
I can remember as I was a noob (like now) and all fightet at b1.
Or as I became gold and jetpack. BÄM! I flew into b1 and was lucky, if there werent prox inside. I used my bombs, some people ran inside too, and al died. ^^
what a time.

MiniOne 02-10-2009 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Schetti (Post 1464948)
Hoste SOME lifetime weap events. Maybe 1 in moht, but ANY!(probably xx people alrdy posted this idea but I am to bored to read 5 sides...)
Anyway, its a chance to put the playercount high.
Players would train more, to get perm weaps in event. Player WOULD have to train if thy really want perm weaps.
I played a lot to trian but now I dont play Zone anymore, because there is no sense.
I always dream to have a perm redpistol.

We also MUST do something against HQRaids(sorry, if you already brang that away but I dont think so)
Look at Bunker. Totally fails all I know. It's LAME. If I found a good weap(chaingun,gold weap) and go to enemy HQ, I CANT lose.
CMON! Greenriffle vs Knife? doesnt sound like fun.
I can remember as I was a noob (like now) and all fightet at b1.
Or as I became gold and jetpack. BÄM! I flew into b1 and was lucky, if there werent prox inside. I used my bombs, some people ran inside too, and al died. ^^
what a time.

xD good times :D i miss those days alot

DuBsTeRmAn 02-10-2009 12:46 PM

Dante, You should make Zone how it was like 2 years ago. I started playing Zone like 3 years ago now. I liked it, Well.. i actually didn't since i was a trial and loved using the saber. So i kept playing and tryed to keep my graal up 24/7 to get the soldier class so i could use the saber on Artic. (Iricia) It was a better way to let people buy gold, now you can still do anything. You just miss some things like cloths, classes, hotkeys.. It's not that bad, Old zone was better if you ask meh :(

Schetti 02-10-2009 01:06 PM

WE CANT BRING OLD ZONE BACK!!!
GOD!
ITS OVER! ITS IMPOSSIBLE!!!
I would be happy like hell, if they would bring old Zone back, BUT ITS IMPOSSIBLE!! ...
What u want say to Stefan about removeing gelats?

Hey stefan, Remove ur gelats from zone(the only server where you really can use a lot)
I want old fun on Zone back, look for another way to earn money.

HMM ...
I dont think, that would work.
Gelats give him "much" money(probably, look at all noobs (new recruit-solider) with photon/greenriffle), if I would ear money from this, I wouldnt remove too.
BUT! we could, like said on SOO much other treaths, be agains HQraids.
Bring some ideas! and staffs try them. Maybe 1 of them brings back some old fun.

I've got a nice example what we could do on zone.
Make a button to switch new<- -> old Weapon GUI.
With old gui, I could switch from weaps SOO qucik, faster than some guyswith hotkeys.
Now I would need(ive got gold) to go doooown until I found..
I miss old GUI I really do.
Also, is it true, that trials dont got belt for granades anymore??
That's bad. If I am noob and wanna buy a nice punch oftazebombs on trader with all my hard earned Ammon at trader.
I miss that
I was lucky, to buy lot of plasma before new zone.
How about bring ammo back to trader, but I cant buy that much as once.
So I would go from 250(just a number) to 400/450 max with trader and to 750 if I am gold.

Those are some ideas who shouldn't hurt too much...

Think about them ...

Crono 02-10-2009 01:07 PM

I only brought it up because the original post said "If you could change one thing on Zone, what would it be?".

Schetti 02-10-2009 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Schetti (Post 1464975)

I've got a nice example what we could do on zone.
Make a button to switch new<- -> old Weapon GUI.
With old gui, I could switch from weaps SOO qucik, faster than some guyswith hotkeys.
Now I would need(ive got gold) to go doooown until I found..
I miss old GUI I really do.
Also, is it true, that trials dont got belt for granades anymore??
That's bad. If I am noob and wanna buy a nice punch oftazebombs on trader with all my hard earned Ammon at trader.
I miss that
I was lucky, to buy lot of plasma before new zone.
How about bring ammo back to trader, but I cant buy that much as once.
So I would go from 250(just a number) to 400/450 max with trader and to 750 if I am gold.

Make a button to switch new<- -> old Weapon GUI.
Give back minimap.
Fix mapspawnifentermap problem
give some ammon to trader
hoste 1-2 lifetimeweap events each month.


THATS I WOULD CHANGE!


HAPPY?

jurre24d 02-10-2009 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Schetti (Post 1464979)
hoste 1-2 lifetimeweap events each month.



I dont think this gonna work.

Schetti 02-10-2009 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by jurre24d (Post 1464990)
I dont think this gonna work.

Why not?

jurre24d 02-10-2009 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Schetti (Post 1464991)
Why not?

That time of permweps is long time ago, there came a update and changed it. Why we change it back?


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