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Darlene159 02-01-2009 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Elizabeth (Post 1461833)
wow, way to single me out.

every one breaks the rules, sam. nobody is perfect. i'm sure that everyone on the forums has atleast one infraction.

There are those that make mistakes, which we all do, and learn from them, and then there are those who make mistakes many times over. At some point, it is less likely that they are mistakes, and more likely that they do not care, or do do not agree with the rules, and retaliate.

Elizabeth 02-01-2009 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Darlene159 (Post 1461873)
There are those that make mistakes, which we all do, and learn from them, and then there are those who make mistakes many times over. At some point, it is less likely that they are mistakes, and more likely that they do not care, or do do not agree with the rules, and retaliate.

i completely agree with the rules, i just don't agree with your moderating.

Loriel 02-01-2009 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Elizabeth (Post 1461833)
i'm sure that everyone on the forums has atleast one infraction.

I am not entirely sure where to look it up, but I do not think I have any.

But eh, you should not feel singled out anyway.

Elizabeth 02-01-2009 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Loriel (Post 1461909)
I am not entirely sure where to look it up, but I do not think I have any.

click your name on one of your posts, and look at your public profile. there should be tabs, click the "infractions" tab and you'll seee all of your infractions.

Nabru 02-01-2009 07:39 PM

Sam has broken the forum rules, been rude and vulgar with me in PMs on several occasions. In my honest opinion he should be removed from power for breaking the rules he blindly enforces.

Darlene159 02-01-2009 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Nabru (Post 1461920)
Sam has broken the forum rules, been rude and vulgar with me in PMs on several occasions. In my honest opinion he should be removed from power for breaking the rules he blindly enforces.

Really? It hasnt been reported to me.

Elizabeth 02-01-2009 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Nabru (Post 1461920)
Sam has broken the forum rules, been rude and vulgar with me in PMs on several occasions. In my honest opinion he should be removed from power for breaking the rules he blindly enforces.

i have also gotten forum private messages from staff, bashing me.

Sam 02-01-2009 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Elizabeth (Post 1461922)
i have also gotten forum private messages from staff, bashing me.

You mean advices instead of infractions? If so, it's good to know that.

Elizabeth 02-01-2009 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Sam (Post 1461924)
You mean advices instead of infractions? If so, it's good to know that.

i didn't provide a name, did i?

Nabru 02-01-2009 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Darlene159 (Post 1461921)
Really? It hasnt been reported to me.

It has, actually. You choose to ignore it. You ignore everybody you don't like, simple as that. You clam to be a responsible adult but you act more childish than the lot of us. Honestly, both You and Sam should step down. I'm fairly confident you have lower approval ratings than Bush did leaving office.

xXziroXx 02-01-2009 08:23 PM

You guys should be more concerned about what you post, rather then how it's moderated. :\

Darlene159 02-01-2009 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Nabru (Post 1461933)
It has, actually. You choose to ignore it. You ignore everybody you don't like, simple as that. You clam to be a responsible adult but you act more childish than the lot of us. Honestly, both You and Sam should step down. I'm fairly confident you have lower approval ratings than Bush did leaving office.

If I ignored it, then it wasn't as you stated, and you know, there really are very few people that I dont like. There are a lot of people who break the rules quite frequently, and I still like them. just because I ignore something, doesnt mean I dont like the person. I very seldom ignore anything, even if I dont reply.

Rufus 02-01-2009 08:44 PM

I wish people wouldn't suck up at all, it makes things so much worse. Ziro is a prime example right there, and it makes people like Darlene and Sam think they are right in everything that they do, rather than helping them to see what's wrong. It's like "THOSE PEOPLE WHO COMPLAIN ARE JUST IDIOTS IGNORE DEM" rather than "Well maybe they have a point, but go about complaining the wrong way". So annoying.

Darlene159 02-01-2009 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Rufus (Post 1461944)
I wish people wouldn't suck up at all, it makes things so much worse. Ziro is a prime example right there, and it makes people like Darlene and Sam think they are right in everything that they do, rather than helping them to see what's wrong. It's like "THOSE PEOPLE WHO COMPLAIN ARE JUST IDIOTS IGNORE DEM" rather than "Well maybe they have a point, but go about complaining the wrong way". So annoying.

Wait, what? Agreeing with someone does not mean they are sucking up.
I dont only listen to those who agree with me. I read every single thing.
It is always "You didnt do what we said so you dont listen!", which is untrue.

Rufus 02-01-2009 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Darlene159 (Post 1461951)
Wait, what? Agreeing with someone does not mean they are sucking up.
I dont only listen to those who agree with me. I read every single thing.
It is always "You didnt do what we said so you dont listen!", which is untrue.

There are certain people here that feel the need to post and act in a way that they feel you want them to. That is what sucking up is, and funnily enough it is the major cause of the problems that Graal has and what brought us to the state it is in today. By the way, what I posted in the above deleted post was the truth so I'm glad you read every single thing.

Darlene159 02-01-2009 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Rufus (Post 1461969)
There are certain people here that feel the need to post and act in a way that they feel you want them to. That is what sucking up is, and funnily enough it is the major cause of the problems that Graal has and what brought us to the state it is in today. By the way, what I posted in the above deleted post was the truth so I'm glad you read every single thing.

I am glad that they confided in you that they act the way I think they should act in order to suck up, which is the only way you would know that, otherwise, it is your opinion.

Rufus 02-01-2009 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Darlene159 (Post 1461972)
I am glad that they confided in you that they act the way I think they should act in order to suck up, which is the only way you would know that, otherwise, it is your opinion.

Inconsistant attitudes and heavily responding to threads in defense that should place them in a "appreciated" position doesn't really need explaining directly. Oh well, it's obvious to most.

xXziroXx 02-01-2009 11:13 PM

Rufus, cheap tactics don't bite on me, so you might as well drop any so called attempts at bashing me. I don't have the slightest issue with the moderation in general, and I think they're doing a good job. I'm not sucking up to anyone, and I never have in my entire life, but their way of doing things is exactly how I would do it - and have been doing it on all forums I've moderated.

I myself have quite a big list of infractions on the OGCC, and been banned a couple of times, but I still agree with everything Darlene is doing. Sam on the other hand, can take a hike for all I care - no offense, I just don't like you that much Sam. You don't understand human minds very well, and jump the trigger way too quickly.

To strengthen my claims, just take a look at the forum rules I made for Maloria forums; http://www.maloria.com/showthread.php?t=8459

Crono 02-01-2009 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by xXziroXx (Post 1462004)
Rufus, cheap tactics don't bite on me, so you might as well drop any so called attempts at bashing me. I don't have the slightest issue with the moderation in general, and I think they're doing a good job. I'm not sucking up to anyone, and I never have in my entire life, but their way of doing things is exactly how I would do it - and have been doing it on all forums I've moderated.

I myself have quite a big list of infractions on the OGCC, and been banned a couple of times, but I still agree with everything Darlene is doing. Sam on the other hand, can take a hike for all I care - no offense, I just don't like you that much Sam. You don't understand human minds very well, and jump the trigger way too quickly.

To strengthen my claims, just take a look at the forum rules I made for Maloria forums; http://www.maloria.com/showthread.php?t=8459


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Originally Posted by xXziroXx (Post 1461937)
You guys should be more concerned about what you post, rather then how it's moderated. :\

wat.

xXziroXx 02-01-2009 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Crono (Post 1462008)
wat.

I don't care if I get banned or infractioned, because either way I won't hold a grudge against the moderation, and if I do I'd PM Darlene about it or make a support ticket.

And is that the most witty thing you can say? :noob:

Crono 02-01-2009 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by xXziroXx (Post 1462010)
And is that the most witty thing you can say? :noob:

Quoting something you posted not so long ago and displaying the irony and a bit of hypocrisy took no effort. I don't make witty posts nor do I try to.

Rufus 02-01-2009 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by xXziroXx (Post 1462004)
Rufus, cheap tactics don't bite on me, so you might as well drop any so called attempts at bashing me. I don't have the slightest issue with the moderation in general, and I think they're doing a good job. I'm not sucking up to anyone, and I never have in my entire life, but their way of doing things is exactly how I would do it - and have been doing it on all forums I've moderated.

I myself have quite a big list of infractions on the OGCC, and been banned a couple of times, but I still agree with everything Darlene is doing. Sam on the other hand, can take a hike for all I care - no offense, I just don't like you that much Sam. You don't understand human minds very well, and jump the trigger way too quickly.

To strengthen my claims, just take a look at the forum rules I made for Maloria forums; http://www.maloria.com/showthread.php?t=8459

Not really "bashing" you, you're just very inconsistent in what you post like in this reply for instance. If you were given infractions and bans for the content that you posted then you are clearly not in agreement with the forum rules. Another example of how you are not in agreement with the forum rules would be the fact that you show a complete lack of respect for the majority of the people that post here and I have had to report your harassment quite a few times, even today.

It's rich to expect something that you do not show yourself, and the forum rules on Maloria are nothing like the forum rules that are posted here in terms of depth. It is the execution of the forum rules however that cause the problems, not really the content in which they are addressing.

That last post was just cracking. It's almost as though you're trying to say I'M A REBEL but in accordance to the forum rules and I abide by them at all times, support center support center forum pm forum pm and it's really silly. You've changed in the last year.

DustyPorViva 02-01-2009 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Darlene159 (Post 1461921)
Really? It hasnt been reported to me.

I complained about you insulting me in a PM and you just stopped responding to my PMs. I sent something to Unix and... well he just hasn't been around.

Darlene159 02-01-2009 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by DustyPorViva (Post 1462024)
I complained about you insulting me in a PM and you just stopped responding to my PMs. I sent something to Unix and... well he just hasn't been around.

I dont normally argue back and forth in PM's for too long, and unixmad does have email.

xXziroXx 02-01-2009 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Rufus (Post 1462022)
Another example of how you are not in agreement with the forum rules would be the fact that you show a complete lack of respect for the majority of the people that post here and I have had to report your harassment quite a few times, even today.

Good for you, I couldn't care less about it. I am who I am, and I'd be damned if I were to change just because you don't like it. At least I don't go around pretending to be best buddies with everyone and then stab them in the back and the first opportunity to show itself.

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Originally Posted by Rufus (Post 1462022)
It is the execution of the forum rules however that cause the problems, not really the content in which they are addressing.

I would get pretty fed up trying to play things nice when it comes to moderation too, if all I got for enforcing the rules was crap.

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Originally Posted by Rufus (Post 1462022)
That last post was just cracking. It's almost as though you're trying to say I'M A REBEL but in accordance to the forum rules and I abide by them at all times, support center support center forum pm forum pm and it's really silly.

I do respect the rules, doesn't mean I always have to follow them, but I am prepared to take the consequences of my choices.

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Originally Posted by Rufus (Post 1462022)
You've changed in the last year.

You haven't. You're still the sly snake everyone warned me to not get involved with.

DustyPorViva 02-01-2009 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Darlene159 (Post 1462029)
I dont normally argue back and forth in PM's for too long, and unixmad does have email.

It wasn't an argument. You deleted a perfectly fine thread of mines(that broke no rules). I 'appealed' it and you told me I acted like a child. You stopped responding. YAY APPEAL SYSTEM.

Darlene159 02-01-2009 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DustyPorViva (Post 1462034)
It wasn't an argument. You deleted a perfectly fine thread of mines(that broke no rules). I 'appealed' it and you told me I acted like a child. You stopped responding. YAY APPEAL SYSTEM.

Worked for me.
Seriously though, there was more to it then that, but I'm not going to argue with you. I am perfectly content in my moderation, and how I speak to people.

DustyPorViva 02-02-2009 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Darlene159 (Post 1462043)
Worked for me.
Seriously though, there was more to it then that, but I'm not going to argue with you. I am perfectly content in my moderation, and how I speak to people.

Of course it works for you. Of course you don't see a problem with how you moderate.

There was nothing more to it. I made a thread that broke no rules and I sent you a PM appealing the deletion and you said:
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I'm not going to play your games, so just stop.
You are an adult (supposedly), maybe you should act like one.
You didn't care what I said or what the rules were.

Rufus 02-02-2009 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by xXziroXx (Post 1462033)
Good for you, I couldn't care less about it. I am who I am, and I'd be damned if I were to change just because you don't like it. At least I don't go around pretending to be best buddies with everyone and then stab them in the back and the first opportunity to show itself.

I would get pretty fed up trying to play things nice when it comes to moderation too, if all I got for enforcing the rules was crap.

I do respect the rules, doesn't mean I always have to follow them, but I am prepared to take the consequences of my choices.

You haven't. You're still the sly snake everyone warned me to not get involved with.

Haha Ziro what are you talking about man? I think you're overreacting a little and confusing yourself because of it.

You're saying you respect the forum rules, yet you don't have to follow them? What? It's extremely counterproductive to respect something and then just ignore it when it suits you, that's not respect. Respect is appreciating something enough to abide by it, and if you're not doing that then you've clearly got disagreements with it. You think that Moon Goddess is doing a good job, yet you'll happily harass people and take away the whole point that she's trying to get across? I don't get it.

As for the friendship thing lol, you're acting as though I'm your best friend and I'm suddenly dating your sister. Regardless of my friendship with someone I will still let them know if they are being over the top, ridiculous in their opinions, or are sucking up and I would appreciate it from my friends and they know it. If Crono or Dusty decided to post something like you did I would have said the same thing, but they wouldn't have, and even if they did they wouldn't react like you are. I don't pretend to be "best buddies" with many and that is commonly known and I'm far from being "sly" else I would have just laughed about what you posted on MSN or something.


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