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Frankie 12-09-2008 02:36 AM

the thing is, with the server being reset, everyone is being screwed over. when nerfing / buffing guns, certain people are losing / gaining money because of it making it unfair. that's how the players see it, and will complain about it.

also, the whole smgpk thing with the leute people seems pretty sketchy. not saying you did it in purpose but it looks bad and that's the way players are going to view it x.x

Freudian_slip 12-09-2008 03:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 1447970)
the thing is, with the server being reset, everyone is being screwed over. when nerfing / buffing guns, certain people are losing / gaining money because of it making it unfair. that's how the players see it, and will complain about it.

also, the whole smgpk thing with the leute people seems pretty sketchy. not saying you did it in purpose but it looks bad and that's the way players are going to view it x.x

We run around with "crappy guns" on purpose, everyone knows that. I run around with a tarus, mini-SMG, uzi, SmgPK and a m3.... I highly doubt any of us would buff a weapon for our own personal gain, never the less use a buffed gun unless it wasn't too over the top.

Anywho, players can see it any way they want. To me this is the testing stage to balance the weapons before the reset. If would be stupid to do it any other way than this.

Aldaris 12-09-2008 03:25 AM

I agree that this is a "testing stage," however, staff are taking FAR too long to reset the server. A reset was supposed to occur earlier this year (Around January), yet staff chose to get nothing done in that time period. I'm being harsh, I admit, but this has been dragged out for way too long now...

DarkRenji 12-09-2008 03:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Meph (Post 1447797)
Due to the high volume of complaints about the SMGPK's fire rate, it's been decreased.

Funny you should say the Mp5-- SMGPK is kinda like it now.


Its not funny thats why i said it >_<

salesman 12-09-2008 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Aldaris (Post 1447980)
I agree that this is a "testing stage," however, staff are taking FAR too long to reset the server. A reset was supposed to occur earlier this year (Around January), yet staff chose to get nothing done in that time period. I'm being harsh, I admit, but this has been dragged out for way too long now...

Current administration != the administration that announced the reset...I don't even think anyone on the team was staff back when the reset was announced.

Don't blame us for their screwups -- we're just trying to fix it.

Frankie 12-09-2008 06:10 PM

we can all blame daz for that one.

CharlieM 12-09-2008 06:23 PM

I don't understand most guns take only 1-2 shots to kill a person except small calibers. So why do certain guns take 100 shots and others take 2 on era

Spikedude 12-09-2008 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by CharlieM (Post 1448143)
I don't understand most guns take only 1-2 shots to kill a person except small calibers. So why do certain guns take 100 shots and others take 2 on era

Because this isn't real life, this is a video game, there's slight discrepancies between the two. Why in real life do bullets move to the point where they're practically invisible to the naked eye, while in era you can move out of it's path?

And the reset has been needed because of the duping. If at first sign of noticing it, someone changed the dropping system and rolled back, we wouldn't have this problem. But it's a bit late now.

I made this topic to get out opinions on the gun system, and allow people to talk about quirks or anything of the sort because I was afraid Era's staff wasn't looking at the majority or the big picture. This isn't meant to be an attack thread on either side, so please keep it on topic. We don't need to hear more about how bad you hate the management for various reasons.

Elizabeth 12-09-2008 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Spikedude (Post 1446142)
bigmessage

for gods sake, cry me a freaking river.
there's like a million other servers that have guns. go to zone if you don't like the system on era. better graphics, more events, and the same mindless people on era.

CharlieM 12-09-2008 09:38 PM

I think he was saying to quit complaining..Unless you misquoted..In which case I don't play era anymore...but that is the way I feel about it thats why when I play other games I always choose hardcore type so its a slight bit more realistic although it still isnt that real..

Shadow5596321 12-09-2008 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Elizabeth (Post 1448174)
for gods sake, cry me a freaking river.
there's like a million other servers that have guns. go to zone if you don't like the system on era. better graphics, more events, and the same mindless people on era.

Zone is worse in intelligence, In Era you have more things to blame that's actually true than Zone does though.

Frankie 12-11-2008 04:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Spikedude (Post 1448171)
I was afraid Era's staff wasn't looking at the majority

lol.
if there's one thing I've learned from being staff on era for around a year+ it's that staff don't give a **** about what the players think. I'm guilty of it myself.

the new gun system is being designed and supported by people who are too stuck to the past. do you think the staff care? not really. it's in their mind that it's good for the server and they're going to stick with it.

guns could of still been balanced without having to butcher them in a way that would piss players off because of the drastic change.

BlueMelon 12-11-2008 04:50 PM

Could it have been possible to test it on the era dev? I mean I dont know much about what going on...

pico57 12-11-2008 05:14 PM

Era is cool. but one thing sux... ( for me. lol)

When u are using a gun... u can not shoot "diagonally"... :(
only "verticaly" and "horizontaly"




(i dunno if u say those word like that... xD)

Frankie 12-12-2008 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by pico57 (Post 1448692)
Era is cool. but one thing sux... ( for me. lol)

When u are using a gun... u can not shoot "diagonally"... :(
only "verticaly" and "horizontaly"




(i dunno if u say those word like that... xD)

well this is era, not zone. it's just how the game is.

Aldaris 12-12-2008 04:59 AM

I just think they should lay off of the buff/nerfs for now. They aren't make sensible nerfs at all, and they are only targeting a specific group of guns.

DarkRenji 12-12-2008 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by pico57 (Post 1448692)
Era is cool. but one thing sux... ( for me. lol)

When u are using a gun... u can not shoot "diagonally"... :(
only "verticaly" and "horizontaly"




(i dunno if u say those word like that... xD)

You got me... diagnally...

natchez416 12-12-2008 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Aldaris (Post 1448851)
I just think they should lay off of the buff/nerfs for now. They aren't make sensible nerfs at all, and they are only targeting a specific group of guns.

It has been said a billion times.
Guns need to be tested now, so that staff don't need to be adjusting gun stats after the reset. Which would you prefer ?

I've been playing for a loooong time and this is the best eras future has ever looked to me. You people need to calm down and understand that era is in good hands right now... stop whining and wait to see what happens after the reset, then make your judgments.

Aldaris 12-12-2008 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by natchez416 (Post 1448856)
It has been said a billion times.
Guns need to be tested now, so that staff don't need to be adjusting gun stats after the reset. Which would you prefer ?

I've been playing for a loooong time and this is the best eras future has ever looked to me. You people need to calm down and understand that era is in good hands right now... stop whining and wait to see what happens after the reset, then make your judgments.

Am I whining or stating a fact? Get your knowledge correct.

Secondly, I suggested that it is fine to test out guns, but do it to a reasonable extent. You cannot nerf/buff guns, and than reset the server four + months later. The time frame is what I'm more concerned about, rather than what they are actually doing.

BlueMelon 12-13-2008 01:20 AM

Its a hint.. Also a nice way to lower economy xDDD

Pelikano 12-14-2008 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Shooto2 (Post 1448992)
On a closing note, no, Era will never be a democracy.
Have a nice day.


Discussing **** like this won't help at all.

I mean look at Mange, he was the gun with his big swords walking around Era, raiding on them and killing people with it.
Years ago when I saw him with these BIG swords I laughed and was like: "LMAO GO TO MALORIA ROFL" Then it changed to: "LMAO GO TO ZODIAC ROFL".
Then suddenly: "Mange's Admin"

WHO THE **** IS MANGE?`

Also take a look at our other Admin that watches Hulk 24/7 and thinks he's Hulk irl.

Lmao.

xXziroXx 12-14-2008 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Pelikano (Post 1449308)
Discussing **** like this won't help at all.

I mean look at Mange, he was the gun with his big swords walking around Era, raiding on them and killing people with it.
Years ago when I saw him with these BIG swords I laughed and was like: "LMAO GO TO MALORIA ROFL" Then it changed to: "LMAO GO TO ZODIAC ROFL".
Then suddenly: "Mange's Admin"

WHO THE **** IS MANGE?`

Also take a look at our other Admin that watches Hulk 24/7 and thinks he's Hulk irl.

Lmao.

Got a problem with Maloria, punk? :\

Yocas 12-15-2008 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by xXziroXx (Post 1449311)
Got a problem with Maloria, punk? :\

Yes. When is it coming out of hibernation?

salesman 12-15-2008 08:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pelikano (Post 1449308)
Discussing **** like this won't help at all.

I mean look at Mange, he was the gun with his big swords walking around Era, raiding on them and killing people with it.
Years ago when I saw him with these BIG swords I laughed and was like: "LMAO GO TO MALORIA ROFL" Then it changed to: "LMAO GO TO ZODIAC ROFL".
Then suddenly: "Mange's Admin"

WHO THE **** IS MANGE?`

Also take a look at our other Admin that watches Hulk 24/7 and thinks he's Hulk irl.

Lmao.

how2bsmart?

Pelikano 12-19-2008 04:43 PM

I love Maloria.
It's just what you say on Era :f


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