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Crono 08-27-2008 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Donark (Post 1417517)
Yesh it does.

EP has little to no spread, if you managed to get caught in it's line of fire it's your own fault. A noob using it can turn around and argue that appirces are overpowered because they fire 4 bullets which spread too far.

Shadow5596321 08-27-2008 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by seanthien (Post 1418173)
Erm, You just phail then..o.o.

Erm, you just phail then. Reapers are for SHOW. That's been said since back in '04 Sean, You know that.

Your name is now Mancy, sister of Nancy.

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Originally Posted by Donark (Post 1418214)
I was towned by a weapon?

Mancy is one of those Zone idiots now.

Dante55555 09-02-2008 03:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Crono (Post 1417436)
NO? RLY? I THOUGHT ME MEANT ADJUSTING THE GANI LOL MY BADcaps

This made me laugh.

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Originally Posted by doyouskate (Post 1417466)
Why it's not really gonna change it. Iricia gives the most kills...so unless you have a planet that is just a lame. It will be useless.

Iricia is garbage, now. You guys don't even make an effort to capture the bases, you just run to the other teams HQ and lame the hell out of them.

Back in Old Zone, I remember just chilling out at base 4 with a bunch of friends, killing the noobs when they come by. People NEVER do that, now. The goal of Iricia is to lame the other teams HQ more than the other team is laming yours.

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Originally Posted by seanthien (Post 1417468)
it's worth a shot isn't it? Besides when CTF was released it had 30+ players for about a week.

CTF is awesome.

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Originally Posted by Crono (Post 1417484)
The original Zone Wars lasted a long time if I remember. All of it's updates were **** though and killed it.

Yeah, I remember when it first came out. I was supposed to be studying for a test the next day but got absorbed into the game.

I got a C on the test.

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Originally Posted by Donark (Post 1417507)
I rather it not take alot of energy and shoot slower. Im tired of getting caught in its line of fire...

That's your fault for not being l33t enough.

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Originally Posted by xAzerothx (Post 1417508)
Then don't get in its way?

I laughed at this.

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Originally Posted by pooper200000 (Post 1417510)
Just because you get caught in a weapon's line of fire does not mean it is overpowered Donark.

I grinned at this one.

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Originally Posted by Donark (Post 1417871)
What do you think?

I think you're in denial.

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Originally Posted by Huwajux (Post 1417945)
will most likely screw Zone up even more.

I'm half expecting that, sadly..

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Originally Posted by Shadow5596321 (Post 1418346)
Reapers are for SHOW. That's been said since back in '04 Sean, You know that..

So true, although Stormy could own 90 percent of the playerbase with them.

Switch 09-02-2008 04:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Dante55555 (Post 1419707)
Iricia is garbage, now. You guys don't even make an effort to capture the bases, you just run to the other teams HQ and lame the hell out of them.

Back in Old Zone, I remember just chilling out at base 4 with a bunch of friends, killing the noobs when they come by. People NEVER do that, now. The goal of Iricia is to lame the other teams HQ more than the other team is laming yours.

Word to your grandma.

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Yeah, I remember when it first came out. I was supposed to be studying for a test the next day but got absorbed into the game.
Ah yes, best thing that happened to Zone that is now sadly an event planet.
Even though Dark Side got destroyed repeatedly :p

Shadow5596321 09-02-2008 04:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Dante55555 (Post 1419707)
So true, although Stormy could own 90 percent of the playerbase with them.

That's because Stormy isn't human.

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Originally Posted by Switch (Post 1419717)
Word to your grandma.

You've been using this lately. It's annoying and not even remotely cool in any aspect.

Frieza 09-12-2008 07:54 PM

only things zone needs nerfing imo is assault pistols...badly and photon...even if you just darken the bullet shade and give it a noise when it shoots.

MagikMasterMind 09-12-2008 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Frieza (Post 1422697)
only things zone needs nerfing imo is assault pistols...badly and photon...even if you just darken the bullet shade and give it a noise when it shoots.

Honestly, it does make a noise, simmilar/same to BR, but it makes a different sound if moving at same time. But you know what? I still kick ass versus photon lamers, and I play with no sound, and the bullet is not edited on my computer. You should be able to do the same. ;)

Frieza 09-12-2008 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Shadow5596321 (Post 1422728)
Photon makes nosies when shot.

barely, it makes a tiny whoop noise.

Crono 09-12-2008 09:41 PM

The photon is supposed to make the pewpewpew noise along with the whoop noise but it got glitched after Stefan updated it's damage and it was never fixed. You can still hear it when you stand still and fire.

MagikMasterMind 09-12-2008 09:44 PM

^

Good info.

Frieza 09-12-2008 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Crono (Post 1422741)
The photon is supposed to make the pewpewpew noise along with the whoop noise but it got glitched after Stefan updated it's damage and it was never fixed. You can still hear it when you stand still and fire.

yeah i know but they should fix it.

Shadow5596321 09-12-2008 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Frieza (Post 1422771)
yeah i know but they should fix it.

Idea:Find something very loud and replace it with the sound file, I believe you can do that.

MagikMasterMind 09-12-2008 11:43 PM

*Car Crash Sound*

Dante55555 09-16-2008 05:51 AM

Mmm, I do agree with Assault Pistols getting nerfed.

I actually had to use my appirces against some noob. It's been a LONG time since I've not been able to kill someone with redpistoles and been forced to use appirces.

I believe there are several other things that could be done to improve Zone. But I don't really play much anymore so I don't think I could make any suggestions that for sure wouldn't ruin the gaming experience.

TheAppircesKid 09-17-2008 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Dante55555 (Post 1423893)
I actually had to use my appirces against some noob. It's been a LONG time since I've not been able to kill someone with redpistoles and been forced to use appirces.

Something wrong with that? D:

Photon4MakeNoise.rawr.

Desear 09-18-2008 09:21 PM

So how are the updates comming, anything new/old fixed or redone?

Nataxo 09-18-2008 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Dan (Post 1417377)
the next several months.

could be 1.....maybe 2....perhaps 5.....who knows!:D

pooper200000 09-19-2008 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Desear (Post 1424471)
So how are the updates comming, anything new/old fixed or redone?

I think that the Iricia being restored was one thing. Maybe Dan will post more information about new content he might be planning to introduce to Zone.

Nightmare 09-19-2008 02:14 AM

Redpistoles Bluepistoles and Reapers permanenent, and different event weapons being made and hosted off

Crono 09-19-2008 05:40 PM

So, yeah, fix the photon already. I described the problem.

TheAppircesKid 09-19-2008 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Nightmare (Post 1424522)
Redpistoles Bluepistoles and Reapers permanenent, and different event weapons being made and hosted off

you have any idea how many times that stuff is hosted off? Everyone on zone woudl have them. x_x Best thing is 1 month, and let the months stack.(if they don't already)
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Originally Posted by Crono (Post 1424620)
So, yeah, fix the photon already. I described the problem.

AUto-Boom WIth Motar On G-Wars, Jetpack+Esc,Glitching behind the stats thing on spar,Spar relogging, mousing, Those are MORE problems that zone needs to have fixed (Well not the glitching stat thing).Go fix dem dan.

pooper200000 09-19-2008 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by TheAppircesKid (Post 1424637)
you have any idea how many times that stuff is hosted off? Everyone on zone woudl have them. x_x Best thing is 1 month, and let the months stack.(if they don't already)

AUto-Boom WIth Motar On G-Wars, Jetpack+Esc,Glitching behind the stats thing on spar,Spar relogging, mousing, Those are MORE problems that zone needs to have fixed (Well not the glitching stat thing).Go fix dem dan.

Prize's times are stacked, or at least on debug they are. There are a lot of glitches that need to be fixed.

Shadow5596321 09-20-2008 03:38 PM

Time is stacked.

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Originally Posted by SeanyNub
you have any idea how many times that stuff is hosted off? Everyone on zone woudl have them.

Maybe we should go back to the one month hosting? The perms were awsome and this one month thing sucks.

jkool666 09-20-2008 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Shadow5596321 (Post 1424846)
Maybe we should go back to the one month hosting? The perms were awsome and this one month thing sucks.

Increased events = increased happiness. So it seems since Zone is more active now then it was back then.

doyouskate 09-20-2008 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Shadow5596321 (Post 1424846)
Maybe we should go back to the one month hosting? The perms were awsome and this one month thing sucks.

Personally I liked it because every time there was an event hosted and I didn't win it just made me want to get better to win next time.

Shadow5596321 09-20-2008 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by jkool666 (Post 1424900)
Increased events = increased happiness. So it seems since Zone is more active now then it was back then.

If the events is what keeping Zone alive, It's better off dead and shows how much the mangement sucks.

doyouskate 09-21-2008 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Shadow5596321 (Post 1424979)
If the events is what keeping Zone alive, It's better off dead.

Couldn't agree more...

Huwajux 09-21-2008 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Shadow5596321 (Post 1424979)
If the events is what keeping Zone alive, It's better off dead and shows how much the mangement sucks.

Wow, I agree with you.

DuBsTeRmAn 09-21-2008 02:51 PM

No need for saying things like I agree, Because everyone will say it =D

But i agree :P

Nightmare 09-21-2008 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by TheAppircesKid (Post 1424637)
you have any idea how many times that stuff is hosted off? Everyone on zone woudl have them. x_x Best thing is 1 month, and let the months stack.(if they don't already)

AUto-Boom WIth Motar On G-Wars, Jetpack+Esc,Glitching behind the stats thing on spar,Spar relogging, mousing, Those are MORE problems that zone needs to have fixed (Well not the glitching stat thing).Go fix dem dan.

do you know how much people dont care about some of those other glitches? and did you see how much they hosted before they ruined graal? it was 2 or 3 a month. i wish it would go back to that.

v4 revival FTW! now wait.. even better.. v2 revival FTW!

Deas_Voice 09-21-2008 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Nightmare (Post 1425174)
do you know how much people dont care about some of those other glitches? and did you see how much they hosted before they ruined graal? it was 2 or 3 a month. i wish it would go back to that.

v4 revival FTW! now wait.. even better.. v2 revival FTW!

/agreed

Huwajux 09-24-2008 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Nightmare (Post 1425174)
do you know how much people dont care about some of those other glitches? and did you see how much they hosted before they ruined graal? it was 2 or 3 a month. i wish it would go back to that.

v4 revival FTW! now wait.. even better.. v2 revival FTW!

Who are you? Were you even around during v2?

I don't want to sound mean, I'm just wondering, lol.

Shadow5596321 09-24-2008 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Huwajux (Post 1425923)
Who are you? Were you even around during v2?

I don't want to sound mean, I'm just wondering, lol.

I believe he's Knigntmare1.



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Originally Posted by Shadow5596321 (Post 1424979)
If the events is what keeping Zone alive, It's better off dead and shows how much the mangement sucks.

Any responses from staff on this?

Nataxo 09-24-2008 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Shadow5596321 (Post 1425963)
I believe he's Knigntmare1.



Any responses from staff on this?

Zone isnt a Events based server....its PvP(Player vs Player) server, and thats what you usually do when you are completing missions at the planets, attacking the enemy etc. I think that Events are hosted at Zone for people to break up with the rutine and just have some fun. Though of course there are Events used to host off special weapons too.

xAzerothx 09-24-2008 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Nataxo (Post 1425977)
Zone is a Events based server

There.

Frieza 09-24-2008 11:13 PM

theres no real compatition in events anymore, i remember when events where fun and winning the event weapons was actually appealing, now winning a months worth of a weapon thats lost its appeal just seems pretty pointless.

revive v2 <3

Shadow5596321 09-25-2008 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Nataxo (Post 1425977)
Zone isnt a Events based server....its PvP(Player vs Player) server, and thats what you usually do when you are completing missions at the planets, attacking the enemy etc. I think that Events are hosted at Zone for people to break up with the rutine and just have some fun. Though of course there are Events used to host off special weapons too.

Bull****. The only thing keeping Zone alive is the god damn events. I challenge the Zone staff to go two months without hosting and see what the playercount is.

The speical weapons? Please. You can either buy them, or get it on the weekend. Which made Reapers, BPS, and RPS lose any sort of speical value since it's hosted way to damn much. The event system before this bull**** was perfectly fine, But the mangement sucked and they couldn't put out enough updates to keep people happy.

Nataxo 09-25-2008 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Shadow5596321 (Post 1426087)
The speical weapons? Please. You can either buy them, or get it on the weekend. Which made Reapers, BPS, and RPS lose any sort of speical value since it's hosted way to damn much.

you can only get them by wining certian events and at certian times, i think that makes them special.

Shadow5596321 09-25-2008 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Nataxo (Post 1426092)
you can only get them by wining certian events and at certian times, i think that makes them special.

Every other weekend DOESN'T make them speical in anyway.

pooper200000 09-25-2008 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Nataxo (Post 1425977)
Zone isn't a Events based server....its PvP(Player vs Player) server, and thats what you usually do when you are completing missions at the planets, attacking the enemy etc. I think that Events are hosted at Zone for people to break up with the rutine and just have some fun. Though of course there are Events used to host off special weapons too.

I don't know if you were saying there are certain qualities of a PvP server that Zone lacks, or if you were suggesting they be added. Either way we don't have missions, aside from the objectives on each planet, and the objectives on each planet are usually ignored to base lame.

Events are hosted to break up the routine, but they are also so consistent that they actually make up the need for new content. There has not been any "new" content other than the mini event planets and platform. It would be great to see a new map, and as seen from the F8 Graal news, Zone Bunker is coming soon!


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Originally Posted by Shadow5596321 (Post 1426087)
The only thing keeping Zone alive is the god damn events. I challenge the Zone staff to go two months without hosting and see what the playercount is.

The special weapons? Please. You can either buy them, or get it on the weekend. Which made Reapers, BPS, and RPS lose any sort of special value since it's hosted way to damn much. The event system before this bull**** was perfectly fine, But the mangement sucked and they couldn't put out enough updates to keep people happy.

I think Zone's playercount may be in part sustained by the events, but there is actual game play for those who do not participate in the events. I think Nataxo is dead on by saying the events are basically a form of fresh air.

The management before was pretty much non existent. Vulcan was manager until around December of 2006 and resigned sometime in the few months after? (Crono would probably know for sure I don't remember the exact dates) and the management was between Crono and Huwajux. Huwajux got the position as ETA (I believe?) and then Dan was hired to manage (10-25-2007) because we still lacked a manger, unless ETA's acted as manager? I never really understood that situation. Right before Dan took over, Vulcan was still helping out on debug and was developing content with Crono. I don't think it would be fair to say that they didn't provide updates, they just provided large updates (Aspar, Gwars) very rarely as opposed to the new mini updates (Snowrace, Jumprace, Lava Event, Platform)

At before our management I believe they lacked scripting help, seeing as the only help was provided from Stefan and possibly gambet? Little was able to be done with minimal experience of the debug workers with scripts (I guess?)and Stefan's inability to hand feed them and complete scripts for them.

The best thing to say would be that each management has its own different style and just because you do not prefer the type of management that is currently being provided, does not mean that updates are not given to Zone. We just lack the larger high quality updates and instead receive somewhat less quality mini updates over an extended period of time. Perhaps some of the new content will be permanent, but as far as permanent content goes there is already quite a bit and to add something new would most likely require removing other content. That might be why events are relied upon so heavily.

The events system before now did not work because we had a significant lack of players who did not have much skill (Myself included) who were able to win simply because all of the other more skilled players won their permanent weapons and were not allowed to participate in events. Now events are more constant because there are mini prizes and now they can much more easily control the number of event weapons in circulation because permanent weapons could and most likely did have a long lasting effect. The current event weapons are special to a degree but with lack of new weapons with new unique twists and turns provided, the weekend event weapons are not as rare as they were in past times.

(Crono you would know some of the staff stuff better than I would)

Also the point of this thread is not to compare and contrast the styles of our management. It was to inform everyone that new things are being introduced on Zone. Perhaps we will see some interesting updates soon! ^^


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