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Sum41Freeeeek 03-19-2007 04:35 PM

I couldn't agree more with the people in this thread. As much as you want to start your own server, it's a bad idea to do it without any development skills. I did the same thing. I started a server with only a bit of LAT experience and it didn't turn out good because my staff team thought I was sitting on my ass watching them do all the work (they left, and made Atrius lol funfact)

If people feed you server ideas, that isn't doing things on your own. The only thing that is going to happen is people putting you to shame because you're taking glory for someone else's ideas.

Switch 03-19-2007 10:21 PM

Ew don't use night-vision it looks like everything's just green... Don't make the darkest part of the day too dark, either, like before z.z

James 03-20-2007 04:13 AM

Okay buddy, we get that you just want power. If you have no developing skills of your own, you have no business trying to get other people to do all of your work. Making a server is about making your own ideas come to life -- with some kind of skill.

Please just stop making threads until you know what you're doing.

Mandangop2p 03-20-2007 05:41 AM

James I know what I'm doing please do not speak.

James 03-20-2007 06:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mandangop2p (Post 1290883)
James I know what I'm doing please do not speak.

This is a public forum, I'll say whatever I please.

Also, before you tell me that you know what you're doing, refer to these threads:

http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...ad.php?t=72925
http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...ad.php?t=72930
http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...ad.php?t=72627
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http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...ad.php?t=69188
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or to simplify things, all threads posted by you:

http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...earchid=327147

Mandangop2p 03-20-2007 06:10 AM

This is the present not the past... Please be quiet. and also This isnt a server to spam previous threads I've made.

James 03-20-2007 06:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mandangop2p (Post 1290890)
This is the present not the past...

But, you forget, the history of someones past is a good analysis of what's to come in the future.

When you prove yourself, I'll shut up. :)

You're not the first person I've seen do this, and you're probably not going to be the first person to succeed based on everything else I've seen from you.

I'm skeptical because everyone that comes in here with no talent, or atleast you never see their talents because all they do is ask for things or try to revive past servers, they never succeed with a playerworld. It is fact my friend, until someone here proves that wrong.

TheJames 03-20-2007 06:29 AM

Totally agreeing with James, above me :) Hi James. Hah. Anyways Jigga, honestly just stop developing servers. Stealing them isn't cool, atleast you arn't doing that anymore. Giveup unless you're going to learn how to NAT or LAT or do something productive. For real. I'll give you props for not stealing a server, although in the Oakdale I saw 4 Atrius images. =/. Do your own **** dude make your own ideas. I agree with everyone whos posted beforeth me.

Kittah 03-20-2007 06:51 AM

This is my non-flaming advice.

Learn to develop competently in at least one area. I know level making isn't difficult at all so why not begin there? As a server manager you can't just delegate the tasks to your staff or they will have no respect for or motivation to help you. Think of it in terms of a company - the manager must do work other than telling others what needs to be done. Managers need to take part in the same or similar work to those working under them while knowing at least something about what those people do.

In other words if you want people to work for you and actually get things done, you need to show you're willing and able to do it too. People may be giving you the advice in the wrong way, but they're still giving you the right advice. You need to take the time, get familiar with things and come up with your own ideas before starting on server-building.

TheJames 03-20-2007 06:57 AM

Unless that certain Manager is paying their workers haha

napo_p2p 03-20-2007 07:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheJames (Post 1290912)
Unless that certain Manager is paying their workers haha

With gralats.

*cough*Excalibur*cough*

Gothika 03-20-2007 10:31 AM

hmm, I've worked on a couple of your servers. But left because of lack of development, and the fact that you don't have a clue what your going to do.
You change your server idea every week.
1 week it's a classic style server. The next week it's a modern style server.

Crono 03-20-2007 12:06 PM

God man, is someone keeping count of how many servers this guy's been trying to do? We need a counter...so we could post it on everythread he makes. :)

Also, you should learn how to develop first. (Levels, Scripts, or Graphics)

Twinny 03-20-2007 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gerami (Post 1290940)
God man, is someone keeping count of how many servers this guy's been trying to do? We need a counter...so we could post it on everythread he makes. :)

Also, you should learn how to develop first. (Levels, Scripts, or Graphics)

Haha just get one of those free counters and increment it every time he starts a new project ^^.

Really seems like personal gain over general enjoyment for all :\ . Not a good attitude.

Kittah 03-20-2007 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gerami (Post 1290940)
God man, is someone keeping count of how many servers this guy's been trying to do? We need a counter...so we could post it on everythread he makes. :)

Also, you should learn how to develop first. (Levels, Scripts, or Graphics)

Yeah, then we have an excuse (although we don't exactly need one) to only post '+1' for every thread he makes.

EmChain 03-20-2007 02:10 PM

Only with constructive criticism will you ensure stability in the Graal community. Don't flame, just give your point and be on with your life.

As Kittah has said. Learn a field first. Join a server, and work in the field for a while. Once you've got everything you need to know. head over and learn another one. After you've got atleast two, than start to puzzle your own server ideas together. Than once you actually start, you can post here asking for additional staff members.

Inverness 03-22-2007 05:05 AM

I seem to remember lecturing you over AIM about how one doesn't deserve their own server if they can't make their own content for it. There are far too many serves already and more of them are certainly not needed with the low amount of quality staff persons readily available in Graal. The only exception would be if a good number of good people got together to make a server, something which I would be interested in.

Gothika 03-22-2007 10:01 AM

I've had 3 Forum PM's in the last day off Jigga asking for my help on "One of his old server idea's". That's what I'm talking about. He can't stick with 1 idea.
He keep's going back and fawards.

Switch 03-22-2007 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gothika (Post 1291640)
I've had 3 Forum PM's in the last day off Jigga asking for my help on "One of his old server idea's". That's what I'm talking about. He can't stick with 1 idea.
He keep's going back and fawards.

Yea same, it was Forum PM, then AIM, then he started saying "I thought you were my friend :cry:". I don't really think they're all his "servers", more that he's convincing the owner to let HIM be owner... I think that's why the playerworld number always changes... :confused:

Mandangop2p 03-22-2007 10:37 PM

Switch who the **** are you to talk here thinking aim is something to talk about here

Inverness 03-22-2007 10:49 PM

Maybe because here & AIM happen to be about same thing, yes?
Your begging and whining to use the modern content from Aeon was rather irritating. Make your own stuff.

Darlene159 03-22-2007 10:53 PM

Since certain people cannot stop posting useless posts, and the thread starter cannot stop arguing with them, this thread will be closed, and no more are to be started right now until the issues are sorted out.


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