Okay do it your way then... just suggesting something that I thought would make it look more lively and inviting. I've only been doing this stuff for a decade, what do I know. >_<

As much as I hate to agree with Koni, I do on this. Your tiles would look much better brighter.

Well you know a black and white server would be interesting.

http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/942...ndwhitebh3.png

Or perhaps crazy Martian landscape

http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/727...ndscapedj3.png

Or super saturation

http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/760...urationcx2.png

The one Konidias posted might look kinda weird cause it's all scrunched up...but here is full size:

http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/762...urationwx5.png

And I think it does look better.

You should listen to what the players suggest, they're the ones who are going to be playing it. I agree with Konidias.

OMG <3

Yeah, I like the new one, with more saturation/contrast.

And that's what Angelu's problem is.. he doesn't want to listen what others have to say, but just make what he likes himself...

I remember myself saying I wanted something different from as he wanted it, and what happened? He said: "I quit..", but we had to listen to him because we needed him for the GFX.

He's stubborn..!

lol the only point why i dont listen to contiga is because he wants to fake maloria and zodiac XD and now hes angry because we dont let him being staff on esteria again :D contiga all people are happy that you not ever being staff on esteria
and to all this color themes no picture has a so high saturation than konidias one and i never said i can change it a bit but konidias saturation is really to high
http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/762...urationwx5.png

this looks ok too i think the saturation is ok for me at not so high as konidias one

ahh and to the purple thing there is planed a poisoned forest whitch looks purple :D

I'm down for developing with a tileset like that!

Well, you could have managed the server if you would have worked more, heh. He did most of the stuff, and things look cool like they are right now.

It's a shame you speak of Contiga in such a way Shakram. When I was always insulting this server he tried to defend it. (or so I remember)

Well, he wanted to do that in some way, and he also left us alone and went to GK...

http://home.graffiti.net/chrischi4u/e_insidedetails.png

an inside screen
at the moment iam playing around with details

God I want to work with that tileset...

Angelu just tell me when you need that help.

That server looks great.

Again, the server looks amazing. Is the light coming through the windows part of the tileset or is it a scripted effect? Only thing I dislike from the indoor shot is the tiles behind the counter, it looks too grainy (err, I don't know the proper term... but it looks odd).

It's an image made transparent.

Its a light effect O.o

You can home-brew light effects, you know. ;p

Distorted? True =o

Yeah that server just looks amazing.

I absolutely love the looks of this server.

Somehow your inside design renembers me of terranigma.

But thats good, no idea why noone tried that so far - more trash to the rooms, good design.

Hmmm...Terranigma looked totally different imo o.O

Yeah.. also could've been lufia... lufia is less detailed, but the inside rooms are similar made.

Terranigma had very plain insides. Lufia, though, maybe.

http://home.graffiti.net/chrischi4u/...dedetails2.png

i need more ideas for details ^^

Looks great.

I was tempted! !pissed!

made it in less then an hour, working with new tiles are fun! no one can say "Hmmm that level looks familiar..." >_<

btw, good luck with the server.

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/9...4estds5.th.png

I call it "The Dood Ranch"

But I can say it doesnt look good :/

and sorry for no updates
we playing around with custom playersprites :D

Bad News
Esteria is Dead again
Good News
iam out of graal and will never do anything for it ^^

so gl&hf for all players and projects

Maybe Crow and me do our own Game Project later if we have time

Can I officially say that quality Graal player-run servers will never come out?

Bye. 1 less server from the million long list.

More like 1 less QUALITY server from the very small list.

Can I have the tileset? ;)

Seriously though, it showed promise. I'm sad to see it go.

I was actually looking forwared to esteria, o well. Im sure if you gave the graphics to someone else it could go somewhere one day.

:\ :\ :\

Big sorry dudes, but as Angelu already said, we may make our own, offline project later. I am still playing Graal, so I may give you guys a link if we will finish this project some day. We wont give out the tiles though, because we will of course use them for our offline project later ;)

Edit:
Side note: The project will not be Graal based anymore, so I guess this is not the right forum to discuss this. But you may give this thread another week to discuss a little bit zwr :P

If you don't have the patience to finish a graal server, you have no-chance making a standalone game.