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Huwajux 11-12-2006 10:28 PM

Ehem... I guess I should of given some confirmation that these aren't forgotten tales.

http://forums.graal2001.com/forums/s...ad.php?t=69455

http://forums.graal2001.com/forums/s...ad.php?t=66014

dude2020 11-12-2006 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by pooper200000 (Post 1242572)
scsary thoughts. How about they fix the no team glitch so I don't kill all 5 people on my team before the other team gets there? There just needs to be more development.

Yah i do agree more development is needed...
@Crono, u know there is need of more like it or not Zone is still slowly dieing w/ lack of updates, same weapons, Hell basicly the only enterating thing now (if not a new person) is harass other players... or just chat around like most ppl on Zone do now
@huwajux See if Stefan would make one a tag team spar

pooper200000 11-12-2006 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Huwajux (Post 1242574)
Ehem... I guess I should of given some confirmation that these aren't forgotten tales.

http://forums.graal2001.com/forums/s...ad.php?t=69455

http://forums.graal2001.com/forums/s...ad.php?t=66014

try checking your pm for the pm I sent you like a month ago about that. Im still open to help especially withinside levels.

Scyinde 11-12-2006 10:32 PM

If I'm a staff, I'll make it my duty to host at least 3 events a day to keep the game running .

pooper200000 11-12-2006 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Scyinde (Post 1242584)
If I'm a staff, I'll make it my duty to host at least 3 events a day to keep the game running .

Please don't use this thread to beg to be staff. Development staff are people who make things for the game. If you want to be an ET go make your own thread.

dude2020 11-12-2006 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Scyinde (Post 1242584)
If I'm a staff, I'll make it my duty to host at least 3 events a day to keep the game running .

ETs shouldnt host like everyday then THAT would get boring and when anthor Ets host a fun event then be like "Wtf only 5 Dm playercount? im hosting a fun event god damnit...."

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Originally Posted by pooper200000 (Post 1242585)
Please don't use this thread to beg to be staff. Development staff are people who make things for the game. If you want to be an ET go make your own thread.

Which will end up
Post by Vulcan:Closed or Support Center if u need to be Staff" or somthing like dat:)

pooper200000 11-12-2006 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by dude2020 (Post 1242590)
ETs shouldnt host like everyday then THAT would get boring and when anthor Ets host a fun event then be like "Wtf only 5 Dm playercount? im hosting a fun event god damnit...."

Which will end up
Post by Vulcan:Closed or Support Center if u need to be Staff" or somthing like dat:)

vulcan posted on this thread I htink he knows what its about.

dude2020 11-12-2006 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by pooper200000 (Post 1242594)
vulcan posted on this thread I htink he knows what its about.

i meant if he made a thread wanting to be Et...

Huwajux 11-12-2006 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by pooper200000 (Post 1242585)
If you want to be an ET go make your own thread.

No...no please...

pooper200000 11-12-2006 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Huwajux (Post 1242597)
No...no please...

on second though deal with wanting to be an ET by sending vulcan and stefan forum pm's. P.S. Huwa can't hire ET"s so don't bother him :D

dude2020 11-12-2006 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by pooper200000 (Post 1242600)
on second though deal with wanting to be an ET by sending vulcan and stefan forum pm's. P.S. Huwa can't hire ET"s so don't bother him :D

when i saw him w/ an RC i was like "Omfg wtf r u a ETA!" xD

pooper200000 11-12-2006 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by dude2020 (Post 1242607)
when i saw him w/ an RC i was like "Omfg wtf r u a ETA!" xD

hes had it forever :D

Dante55555 11-12-2006 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by pooper200000 (Post 1242610)
hes had it forever :D

Well, not excactly forever now is it? I mean there was times when he was like Stefans No.1 Enemy xD. Got bant for speed hacks :P

SayianOozaru 11-13-2006 12:28 AM

im bored. and can't remember what this thread was about lol. uh its development staff...for the topic...but you guys are talkin about some weird ****...i need my et job back D: ...and i need to make a symbol for (Gfx Staff)...damn...but we got plenty of staff here...and uh i dont know...i'll do this later...

Dante55555 11-13-2006 12:36 AM

We dont have plenty of DEV staff tho, theres actually a shortage when it comes to staff online activity. Its like once a fort night (2 weeks) you see a DEV staff online.

Crono 11-13-2006 12:39 AM

People want new maps but they have no idea how they want it to be. Honestly, what else is there to add apart from the whole mission thing Stefan has been on about for years?

What do you want, CTF DM + ELITE WAPUNZ 4 PPL w/ 100k+ EXP PLZ LOL

-shrugs- you say maps maps maps but theres nothing to make.

SayianOozaru 11-13-2006 12:46 AM

i think a new ctf map might be nice. where your in a spaceship or something. one base is at the top, and anothers on the very bottom...i think it'd be fun... :3 ...ummm people dont really tell me weapons to make anymore either D: ... they just say make a gun...or they dont say anything at all :cry: xd.

Dante55555 11-13-2006 12:47 AM

Broaden your mind, not your ass and youle see xD. Not serously. I can think of dossens. Im working on Team DM, and NO that is GWs. GWs, is.. GWs.. xD Its completely diferent because it doesnt have a noob cave were noobs hide, doesnt have Mechs and Bikes, its more, Gun fighting than saber and machine. Also, i can think of loads more. And also loads more maps have been posted, just not been recognised.

I understand what you mean when you say we don't know what we want. Well, most do. You just don't hear about it from them because they've already left from boredom :P. Noobs dont know what they want. No siry, but if your read some past threads you could probably pull a few ideas out.

Maybe you dont see adding more Staff as such a good idea, but think to yourself. If you add the right people, how can it be a bad idea? It could increase population vastly. Who knows.

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Originally Posted by SayianOozaru (Post 1242692)
i think a new ctf map might be nice. where your in a spaceship or something. one base is at the top, and anothers on the very bottom...i think it'd be fun... :3 ...ummm people dont really tell me weapons to make anymore either D: ... they just say make a gun...or they dont say anything at all :cry: xd.

Erm, i like your ideas, lots of ideas have already been proposed about "Spaceship" maps instead of planetary. I had an idea for 1, 1 where the only way to cross spaceships would be by bike or jetpack, if not youd fall to your death >:D

Crono 11-13-2006 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Dante55555 (Post 1242693)
Maybe you dont see adding more Staff as such a good idea, but think to yourself. If you add the right people, how can it be a bad idea? It could increase population vastly. Who knows.

No it wont. Not only that but the only developmental potential is OUTSIDE of the zone population. Face it, in general the zone population are about as bright as a 10 year old lightbulb.

Now, the problem comes: What is actually worth going through the trouble of making? We have DM, CTF, GWARS, Arctic, etc.

In my opinion the staff should be focused on the whole mission thing, and we have all the LAT potential needed. I.E Stefan, Vulcan, Huwajux, myself, and maybe jesse/sayian or something.

Graphics? We have Sayian and im sure Stefan or Vulcan or myself could find someone to do some graphics...

Scripting has always been Stefan but Vulcan is very capable as well.

Ganis? Huwajux and Stefan have that undercontrol and im sure Hachi (Bl0nkt) would contribute if asked.

seanthien 11-13-2006 01:13 AM

Meh..give me the tileset and i wanna try to make a map :[ Im too lazy to get search for it. And Yeh you dont see ANY staff on alot besides jesse.

Dante55555 11-13-2006 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Gerami (Post 1242697)
No it wont. Not only that but the only developmental potential is OUTSIDE of the zone population. Face it, in general the zone population are about as bright as a 10 year old lightbulb.


Hey Im not actually that bad xD, you say it as if were all retards or something. Just because most of the general population of zone are dumb doesnt mean everyone is. Besides, theres much worse. I mean look at UN. The most inteligent thing to ever come out of a persons mouth there is "WIL U BI MY GILFRIND?"

I believe new planets WILL bring in more people, and if it doesn't. No one likes them. No harm done, just delete them. Its worth a shot, why are you so afraid of change?

Andy0687 11-13-2006 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Gerami (Post 1242684)
-shrugs- you say maps maps maps but theres nothing to make.

Thats not true you have to have a good imagination to go beyond the whole "We have done everything, so lets stop trying" thing. Missions have been in planning for ages, and arent done, so try making something fresh, its possible, just think.

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Originally Posted by Huwajux
..

Thanks, I appriciate the effort but will understand if nothing comes of it very soon, if ever. However my offer will not be retracted due to time, so should anything change, feel free to get in contact with me.

seanthien 11-13-2006 01:26 AM

Zone now is starting like a playerworld..ITs playable and your planning on doing things to it but you never get to do it..Only one i see doing something is sayian.

Dante55555 11-13-2006 01:36 AM

Thats because the Staff dont believe they need to do something. When they do. I can't think of 1 person on zone who's not staff that doesn't agree we need more staff and doesn't agree we need more levels, weapons, ect.

Here are some pictures of a new map id recomend. No one really noticed it yet xD
http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/5...1picdf0.th.png http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/8...1picyp7.th.png http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/5...1picqg5.th.png http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/3...rpicev0.th.png

Crono 11-13-2006 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Dante55555 (Post 1242709)
Hey Im not actually that bad xD, you say it as if were all retards or something. Just because most of the general population of zone are dumb doesnt mean everyone is. Besides, theres much worse. I mean look at UN. The most inteligent thing to ever come out of a persons mouth there is "WIL U BI MY GILFRIND?"

That's why I said in general, not ALL TEH TYM LOLZZ

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I believe new planets WILL bring in more people, and if it doesn't. No one likes them. No harm done, just delete them. Its worth a shot, why are you so afraid of change?
I don't. When they revived CTF nothing really happened.

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Thats not true you have to have a good imagination to go beyond the whole "We have done everything, so lets stop trying" thing. Missions have been in planning for ages, and arent done, so try making something fresh, its possible, just think.
I think the issue is more along the lines of "is it worth putting so much time into map xy"

Dante55555 11-13-2006 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Gerami (Post 1242735)
I don't. When they revived CTF nothing really happened.

I said NEW planets. CTF is older than grandmas sweaty underwear. Yes i know you said revived, but most of us had already got bored of CTF when it was taken out anyway. People want something new to experience. Something never done before. Ship fights, all melee matchs, grenade mayhem. Anything new really.

jkool666 11-13-2006 02:52 AM

What would be amazing, is if the players of Zone actually listened to more experienced players. What I have concluded from today, is with cooperation, unbeatable teams can be made. 15 vs 3 today, because Jo, Robot and I actually listen to one another and make plans, we won... None of us died... Now imagine, 20 vs 20 (just an example), but theres a leader on each team. The teamates actually follow orders. If a planet could be made where strategy was absolutly required, that would be amazing. Because the two teams have *smart* leaders, the game would be very interesting, and wouldn't be about, OMG I PWN YOU WIT MY APPS IN DA SPAR ROOM.

Develop a map where strategy is necessary, and Zone would be sweet :)

Andy0687 11-13-2006 02:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gerami (Post 1242735)
I think the issue is more along the lines of "is it worth putting so much time into map xy"

That wouldnt be such a problem with a good team and someone who UNDERSTANDS balance.

Dante55555 11-13-2006 03:15 AM

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Originally Posted by jkool666 (Post 1242765)
What would be amazing, is if the players of Zone actually listened to more experienced players. What I have concluded from today, is with cooperation, unbeatable teams can be made. 15 vs 3 today, because Jo, Robot and I actually listen to one another and make plans, we won... None of us died... Now imagine, 20 vs 20 (just an example), but theres a leader on each team. The teamates actually follow orders. If a planet could be made where strategy was absolutly required, that would be amazing. Because the two teams have *smart* leaders, the game would be very interesting, and wouldn't be about, OMG I PWN YOU WIT MY APPS IN DA SPAR ROOM.

Develop a map where strategy is necessary, and Zone would be sweet :)

1, i like that you used me in your quote :) <3.. 2, YEA THAT WAS HELLA FUN! and 3, thats probly the smartest unrelated thing to this topic ive heard all night. Stratagy is key in zone. And the people who actually listen understand that. Id try to creat something like that. Infact, i kind of am. Team Deathmatch would require good teamwork to survive if the odds were unbalenced. I hate balanced teams. I win too easy. lets say. 15 against 3 again on this new Team deathmatch. We decide its too impossible to go and charge in so we fortify the base with proximines and hide behind the sandbags with BR. No one can come from behind because theres only 1 warp place for each team and no jetpack, so its a basic game of keep the enemy off your line. It would be like on Lord of the rings 2 were there trying to keep them from climbing the wall :D.

pooper200000 11-13-2006 03:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Dante55555 (Post 1242772)
1, i like that you used me in your quote :) <3.. 2, YEA THAT WAS HELLA FUN! and 3, thats probly the smartest unrelated thing to this topic ive heard all night. Stratagy is key in zone. And the people who actually listen understand that. Id try to creat something like that. Infact, i kind of am. Team Deathmatch would require good teamwork to survive if the odds were unbalenced. I hate balanced teams. I win too easy. lets say. 15 against 3 again on this new Team deathmatch. We decide its too impossible to go and charge in so we fortify the base with proximines and hide behind the sandbags with BR. No one can come from behind because theres only 1 warp place for each team and no jetpack, so its a basic game of keep the enemy off your line. It would be like on Lord of the rings 2 were there trying to keep them from climbing the wall :D.

ok. Why don't you post some of your map ideas?

pooper200000 11-13-2006 03:32 AM

jo anyone else who could help zone? note Ill play with lots of maps on friday. I have school off then.

Dante55555 11-13-2006 03:33 AM

I did? Look up lol ^^^^ If you want the link to all my work done so far go to your original thread http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...71#post1242771

Ile erm, talk you through some of the basics. Its the same as GWs in a way, 2 teams to go in to, 1 objective. Kill everyone. (Also might add in a 2nd objective of destroying something) but its very simple. Like DM it has alot of people with the same basic weapons like Apps, Shotguns, Plasmarifle ect ect. Each team has a fort. (Where they spawn) This would also be were the 2ndry objective would be. Inside the fort would be just link a normal iricia bunker. The thing is, it would be great for hiding and stuff because you could easaly door lame. The plan of the game is to invade the enemy fort destroying it, while keeping yours intact. It would require teamwork and good settings of each others jobs. Your not going to trust somone to protect your base whos gonna easaly die, and your not gonna let just 1 person go out to destroy the other base, that would be quick suicide. Team work would be assential. Team Raids. Bunker cover. Ect ect. Ahh i can picture it in my mind but i cant show u xD. I hope you understand what i mean. Well, sounds good to me anyways. Your views?

dude2020 11-13-2006 04:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jkool666 (Post 1242765)
What would be amazing, is if the players of Zone actually listened to more experienced players. What I have concluded from today, is with cooperation, unbeatable teams can be made. 15 vs 3 today, because Jo, Robot and I actually listen to one another and make plans, we won... None of us died... Now imagine, 20 vs 20 (just an example), but theres a leader on each team. The teamates actually follow orders.

See below

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Originally Posted by Dante55555 (Post 1242772)
Team Deathmatch would require good teamwork to survive if the odds were unbalenced. I hate balanced teams. I win too easy. lets say. 15 against 3 again on this new Team deathmatch. We decide its too impossible to go and charge in so we fortify the base with proximines and hide behind the sandbags with BR. No one can come from behind because theres only 1 warp place for each team and no jetpack, so its a basic game of keep the enemy off your line. It would be like on Lord of the rings 2 were there trying to keep them from climbing the wall :D.

Team Deatchmatch=Alpha? but laggy DEAL lol oh and also say the Team leader is a noob sucks and lets say umm uhh a Firechamp and he ahtes you and you HAVE to follow orders so he sends you into a battle w/ 20 ppls i wouldnt want that would u lol

pooper200000 11-13-2006 04:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante55555 (Post 1242780)
I did? Look up lol ^^^^ If you want the link to all my work done so far go to your original thread http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...71#post1242771

Ile erm, talk you through some of the basics. Its the same as GWs in a way, 2 teams to go in to, 1 objective. Kill everyone. (Also might add in a 2nd objective of destroying something) but its very simple. Like DM it has alot of people with the same basic weapons like Apps, Shotguns, Plasmarifle ect ect. Each team has a fort. (Where they spawn) This would also be were the 2ndry objective would be. Inside the fort would be just link a normal iricia bunker. The thing is, it would be great for hiding and stuff because you could easaly door lame. The plan of the game is to invade the enemy fort destroying it, while keeping yours intact. It would require teamwork and good settings of each others jobs. Your not going to trust somone to protect your base whos gonna easaly die, and your not gonna let just 1 person go out to destroy the other base, that would be quick suicide. Team work would be assential. Team Raids. Bunker cover. Ect ect. Ahh i can picture it in my mind but i cant show u xD. I hope you understand what i mean. Well, sounds good to me anyways. Your views?

i like your idea. WOuld be interesting to try the team dm.

Huwajux 11-13-2006 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Dante55555 (Post 1242723)
Levels.

Hey, those are pretty good!

Crono 11-13-2006 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Dante55555 (Post 1242741)
I said NEW planets. CTF is older than grandmas sweaty underwear. Yes i know you said revived, but most of us had already got bored of CTF when it was taken out anyway. People want something new to experience. Something never done before. Ship fights, all melee matchs, grenade mayhem. Anything new really.

CTF was around before you played Graal.

But my point is that most of the players hadn't even seen it before so don't give me that "BUT IZ OLD MANG" excuse. Something never done before? Refer to my sun event that Stefan did nothing about. I found it to be quite good.

Dante55555 11-13-2006 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Gerami (Post 1242933)
CTF was around before you played Graal.

But my point is that most of the players hadn't even seen it before so don't give me that "BUT IZ OLD MANG" excuse. Something never done before? Refer to my sun event that Stefan did nothing about. I found it to be quite good.

Lol, stop feeding me your bull, i was around long before CTF was taken away and it sucked then more than it does now. Also stop with the quotations of how you think i talk "BUT IZ OLD MANG". How the hell do i talk like that? -.-..
This is a very 1 sided arguement, very few people agree that there is enough planets right now. What do you think the problem would be if there was new staff? Can't handle competition?.. Oh Please..

Quote:

Originally Posted by Huwajux (Post 1242913)
Hey, those are pretty good!

Thx man, new i could count on a honest contribution from you. <3

pooper200000 11-13-2006 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gerami (Post 1242933)
CTF was around before you played Graal.

But my point is that most of the players hadn't even seen it before so don't give me that "BUT IZ OLD MANG" excuse. Something never done before? Refer to my sun event that Stefan did nothing about. I found it to be quite good.

that is a good idea but aren't they going to adda new tileset fo that? I forget.
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Originally Posted by Dante55555 (Post 1243114)
Lol, stop feeding me your bull, i was around long before CTF was taken away and it sucked then more than it does now. Also stop with the quotations of how you think i talk "BUT IZ OLD MANG". How the hell do i talk like that? -.-..
This is a very 1 sided arguement, very few people agree that there is enough planets right now. What do you think the problem would be if there was new staff? Can't handle competition?.. Oh Please..
Thx man, new i could count on a honest contribution from you. <3

I still say we need to all make contributions on huwa's thread for the ctf he wanted to make.

seanthien 11-13-2006 11:42 PM

xD @ john well i think there needs to be more planets. =\ 32 people on irica is way to much lag for me ;-;

hilary1612 11-13-2006 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by seanthien (Post 1243196)
xD @ john well i think there needs to be more planets. =\ 32 people on irica is way to much lag for me ;-;

If there is to much planets people will be on seperate planets which means 10 people on each one and it would be no fun. So IF planets ARE added then to many of them shouldn't be added at once.


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