TrueHeaT:
You contributing seems to have a negative effect, I assume he realized that. Please drop this subject it's no fun to read about on the boards and nothing we say will help.

He was banned because unixmad doesn't like him. He opened the server because unixmad refuses to unban him.

yes, well you were/are reliant on cough syrup and other stuff you did that i should not mention.

Only because you and your idiot squad magnified and blew everything out of proportion.

Nothing I did had any lasting effects anyway, . .

What does my drinking cough syrup have anything to do with Graal?

TrueHeaT:
Lasting effects are nothing. There is only now. But let's stop posting in this thread, really.

you went on graal while drunk and messed with accounts

you may go on on graal while under the influence of COUGH SYRUP (haha) and mess with accounts.

I spy someone thats jealous of Lycia...
For they would leave that topic alone if they weren't either total as*holes, or if they knew better than to pick on someone when Unixmad clearly put it that harrassment will not be tolerated.

*is confused at the arguing Gameo screename*

Gameo you would follow your friends everwhere,
helping them breaking the law and stealing
property?

This is not about friends, this is legal crime. If
you say Lugie should better support his
'friends' than supporting law and order
and Graal then thats really stupid.

btw: people are not banned for playing
on that illegal server, I just said that people
might get problems if they apply for a
staff job since they have showed that they
want Graal down

Stefan I dont mind if for wanting to see what my friends were doing you put me on some blacklist about not being staff. However.......saying I want graal down goes a bit to far. I was only on for like a max of 15 mins or something not long at all and a lot of that time I was Idling and just reading the forums

im sure stefan understands that a lot of those people are going on there just out of curiosity, and maybe play that when graal 2001 gets slow. i want to play on that server bad too, but i still plan on resubscribing.

Im resubscribing Because i finally was able to play cops and robbers and cs without horrible lag so im happy =]. I do hope stefan isnt made at me thoguh for going on that server.

you worry too much.

Yup i do. I worry and along with that which is a bad combo Ive been called to nice so it isnt rather the greatest.

I plan on resubscribing...It's such an easy payment and $27 is not a lot. I wish I could spend less on my internet bill :D But I do not think Earthlink would let me necessarily do that, and that is fine...they are a business and have to have money to operate *looks forward to new features from Earthlink*

(Shaun)
 

<Shaun>

I find chemical does have a point, if Graal 2001 is so good, then why worry about this server? Shouldn't Graal 2001 just attract players away from that? It should, if people are paying for it, so probably the best solution I can think of is just pump up the quality of Graal 2001 to lure people to it, and just leave it.

</Shaun>

stefan, there arent just 2 options
what a real friend should do is
if he doesnt want to take part of it, then dont take part of it, but dont tell anybody.

OK, all i have to say is how the **** is one 1.3.9 server being up gonna shut graal down or make stefan lose thousands? i am sorry but i dont get it, i think it is all complete bullshit. so you are telling me that about 14 people playing that thing (every one that i saw on it sept for 2 people had p2p accounts and were on g2k1 while playing) will make graals profit go down? if anything it will go up, people will see how much some shitheads are whining about wanting a bomy and say "maybe i should buy a p2p account to see what this bomy stuff is" and buy one. you ALL blew this way out of ****ing proportion, Lugie, you shouldnt have cried to stefan like a little baby, you should have confronted mafukie like a man and told him how you felt about it being more than the 4 initial players it was supposed to be. but instead you went straight to stefan...and all you people who keep screwin Lugie over...leave him alone already, i mean i dont hate him for it...no-one should, it just teaches us a valuable lesson on trust...that you shouldnt have it...i learned that a long time ago... ya get stabbed in the back all the time, deal with it, stefan didnt ban no1 for it, so just quit yer whining already and leave this how it is...i dont care if i lose friends case they think i am taking Lugies/stefans side (which i am not by the way) and i dont want to lose any opertunity i would have at amountin to anything in graal (which i wouldnt neway :-P) with stefan thinkin i am taking mafukies side (which i am not)...and either way, stefan wouldnt lose money, he just started making money like 6 months ago...for how many years before that was graal copletely free-based? 2? 3? god damn you are all selfish bastards.

atleast one person is making some sense

you dont know the half of it... and i did confront mafukie and most of the supporters of him when i first seen them after this happened. ask mafukie (his aim is Mafux0r). i apolagized for what i did but i said i did it for stefans sake (which i did), and wanted him to mass an apology from me but he didnt do that (which i understand). there is a lot more to this than what is just posted in this thread.

phew its a good thing i never wanted to be staff

anna hates me now but i guess i deserve it :(

no1 deserves to be hated for such a stupid reason...oh my god, a server gets reported, who really cares? nothing resulted of it, stefan just got mad.

yeah stefan add a couple thousand server flags and messed something up (i dotn know what)... the flag thing was fixed from what i hear but...

yeah, everything was fixed...but the thing is now neither party can do ****...Mafukie stole graal mod, yet stefan hacked into mafukies server...both broke law, both can get prossecuted if charges get pressed

Nobody seems to understand this... business is business. If you don't have an appreciation for law and capital, you'll never succeed in business.

i wasnt really trying to succeed in anything... i was trying to help somebody out.

It's not you, Lugie. You did the right thing by doing your best to protect Cyberjouer's assets. Everyone seems to think this is some model wth Portha the rich bastard sitting on Graal and souping up the money while stripping everyone of their rights and Cyberjouer can release the code anytime they want if they weren't so greedy.

Business doesn't work that way! Graal's only retail asset is their delivery of consumers and their service. Their only other asset is their software. Mafukie has cut into all three, and in spite of others' magic recommendations for improving business it's not based in reality. Unixmad has 10 years of managerial experience, he knows what's right for the company and stealing from it doesn't solve anything. :(