Originally Posted by Stefan (Post 717319)

These forums are not a place for complains about staff or how Graal is run. If you have serious suggestions for making things better then you can let us know them. If you don't want to improve Graal or play Graal then you don't need to do that, but don't try to destroy the community because you are mad of some people. We have to change structures from time to time to make things better working.

Originally Posted by Mykel (Post 1241351)

But they continue to do it. That's why this thread will be closed/deleted and we'll both probably recieve infractions.

Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 1241807)

Things are not nearly as bad as they used to be. There's very little to complain about now, in my opinion.

Originally Posted by pooper200000 (Post 1241349)

Why are threads continually deleted so the issue can be taken to the control I means support center? I am quite intested as to why since wouldn't placing all evidence of everything said be beneficial to the Graal community? Then if a player has an objection it can be dealt with while also allowing the help of peers and or staff and while this happened it could help prevent this issue from happening yet again? Yet another question I ask in my complete ignorance of issues. Would it be possible to create a court system in the forums where the players have authority or something of or in that forum? I believes that if they were to have the players report a post if they believe it is spam and 5 persons were to report a post it would be deleted if there reasons all agreed. Moderators then would simply be the "cops" of the forums who would simply deal with deleting the suggested posts and closing threads. Yet another of this one's unintelligent questions must not continue. Would it be allowable for the players to simply object to infractions or simply want to know the full reason for the moderators deleteion of their threads/posts? I would like to know how a little over 400 of my 1700 posts are considered spam. I have gone back and counted how many posts I would have if they were not deleted. Most importantly could they allow a thread /and or forums that is moderated by a player such as Sklyd or another player who is respected and on much such as Gerami/cronosaur who can moderate the forums the moderators are not allowed to view. I believe that many enjoy being able to take their anger out on staff without the staff's knowledge. The forum would only be moderated to remove links. There is nothing wrong with the staff being made fun of and the players could make fun of them so they would not personally attack them anywhere else. Many moderators would be protected or made fun of by players and it would relieve the players greatly. Lastly would it be possible for the players to object to the rules and have them changed. Any help on this including reading this post would be appreciated!:D
The stupid,
Supernanny

Originally Posted by Tyrial (Post 1243845)

By the love of the and the only God, please.. dude.. PLEASE.. use your enter button!!!

Originally Posted by Gerami (Post 1243865)

no theres like 5000 gods man didnt you know?

Originally Posted by Tyrial (Post 1243867)

Really? :O ... naa.. name them!

Originally Posted by Tyhm (Post 1243970)

Hey, in the book I read it said there's only one God, and thou shalt hold no other gods holier than His noodly appendage.

But I digress:
Bans should be discussed, but not in public. Admins should be reviewed, but again, not in public. It shakes public confidence if every other day, Darlene and Sam have to defend themselves against accusations of corruption in front of everyone.

This is why I want a tree structure for the Support Center - you get banned, you can take it up with their immediate superiors, and so forth until you actually NEED Unixmad to step in. And there should be at least one admin between Person Banning You and Unixmad the Very Busy...otherwise nothing ever gets done.

Originally Posted by Tyhm (Post 1243970)

This is why I want a tree structure for the Support Center - you get banned, you can take it up with their immediate superiors, and so forth until you actually NEED Unixmad to step in. And there should be at least one admin between Person Banning You and Unixmad the Very Busy...otherwise nothing ever gets done.

Originally Posted by Tyhm (Post 1243970)

Hey, in the book I read it said there's only one God, and thou shalt hold no other gods holier than His noodly appendage.

But I digress:
Bans should be discussed, but not in public. Admins should be reviewed, but again, not in public. It shakes public confidence if every other day, Darlene and Sam have to defend themselves against accusations of corruption in front of everyone.

This is why I want a tree structure for the Support Center - you get banned, you can take it up with their immediate superiors, and so forth until you actually NEED Unixmad to step in. And there should be at least one admin between Person Banning You and Unixmad the Very Busy...otherwise nothing ever gets done.

Originally Posted by Sam (Post 1244016)

We have a private forum for mods to discuss bans

Originally Posted by Gerami (Post 1244029)

BUT DISCUSSING BANS IS ILLEGAL! Lol refer to my hypocrite post in that youtube thread >_< >_< >_<

Originally Posted by Darlene159 (Post 1244031)

I hardly think it is hypocritical when it is job related.

Originally Posted by Gerami (Post 1244033)

It's my self proclaimed job to break rules, does that make it ok?

:( u so mean y u tryin 2 maek me argue