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dude2020 10-18-2006 12:16 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jkool666 (Post 1232313)
I've noticed.
Ty

Huwajux 10-18-2006 07:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterMastermind (Post 1232260)
Read the first post. -.-"
Yes? What do you want to point out? The first post mentioned a certain "Rule" that happens in certain conditions. That "Rule" concerns staff. You made a suggestion about "Inside-info". What would be the point? That info would just get spread around Zone like wildfire. I then mentioned the stupid decision made by staff that "Inside-info" is inside-info.

The point is developing, not going off topic.

If you want to take a jab at me, do so by all means in PM. I get the impression you want to get back at me for "Something".

MisterMastermind 10-18-2006 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Huwajux (Post 1232697)
Blah, blah blah, accusation.
That's nice I'm simply asking your opinion on the rule itself.

Gambet 10-18-2006 11:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jkool666 (Post 1231551)
You can't kick the players that already have it, thats nearly impossible. For me to have an event with 20-30 players in it, I would need to:
1. Find everyone who already has the weapon (how would I do that? Ask and people would lie?)
2. At the start, type /kick <acc name> about 20 times, which would take about 1-2 mins and I wouldn't even be able to watch to make sure people are following rules.

But I do agree Typhoon, it is a bad rule.


Or you can have it automatically do so via script

PHP Code:
//This would go in the dropship

function onActionServerSide()
  {
  if (params[0] == "sweap") {
    serverr.sweap = tokens[1];
    player.chat = "Event weapon set to: " @ serverr.sweap;
    for (pl: allplayers) {
      if (pl.guild != "Events Team") {
        if (findweapon(serverr.sweap) != NULL) {
          pl.chat = "You already have the event prize:" @ serverr.sweap;
          setlevel2("blah.nw",30,30);
        }
      }
    }
  }
}

//#CLIENTSIDE
function onPlayerChats()
  {
  if (player.guild == "Events Team") {
    if (player.chat.starts("/setweapon")) {
      tokens = player.chat.tokenize();
      if (tokens[1] != serverr.sweap) {
        triggerserver("gui",name,"sweap",tokens[1]);
      } else player.chat = "Event weapon is already set to " @ serverr.sweap;
    }
  }
}
function onPlayerEnters()
  {
  if (serverr.sweap != NULL) {
    if (findweapon(serverr.sweap) != NULL) {
      player.chat = "You already have the event prize:" @ serverr.sweap;
      setlevel2("blah.nw",30,30);
    }
  }
} 

And...

PHP Code:
//This would go in the map itself

function onActionServerSide()
  {
 if (params[0] == "rweap") serverr.sweap = NULL;
}

//#CLIENTSIDE
function onPlayerEnters()
  {
  if (serverr.sweap != NULL) {
    if (findweapon(serverr.sweap) != NULL) {
      player.chat = "You already have the event prize:" @ serverr.sweap;
      setlevel2("blah.nw",30,30);
    }
    triggerserver("gui",name,"rweap");
  }
} 



Or something like that....

jkool666 10-19-2006 03:15 AM
@ Gambet (Quote didn't like me)

But like I said, its hard to find someone who will do something for Zone and see it uploaded. If its just a new command for ET's I don't think it would be. To be honest I don't understand a bit of the script there, would that scripting actually work to perform this task?

Gambet 10-19-2006 03:20 AM
It would allow you to set a string that reads what the prize for the event will be. When you set the string, anyone in the dropship that currently has that weapon will be warped out to a designated level. Anyone that enters the level after you set the string that has the weapon will be warped out of the dropship. If anyone lags in and gets into the map by lag or something, the map would warp out anyone with the weapon designated in the string to prevent anyone from participating that has the event prize already. Once people warp into the map, the string is reset, so that you can set it again at another time.

someonesomewhere 10-19-2006 03:40 AM
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Originally Posted by jkool666 (Post 1232956)
To be honest I don't understand a bit of the script there, would that scripting actually work to perform this task?
not the way it's set up, but it wouldn't be hard for stefan to fill it in :p

Huwajux 10-19-2006 08:37 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterMastermind (Post 1232828)
That's nice I'm simply asking your opinion on the rule itself.
Oh?
Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterMastermind (Post 1231761)
That was border line off topic.

MisterMastermind 10-19-2006 10:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Huwajux (Post 1233169)
Oh?
Yes, the topic is if sucky PlayerB should win WeaponX or not.

jkool666 10-20-2006 02:44 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gambet (Post 1232960)
It would allow you to set a string that reads what the prize for the event will be. When you set the string, anyone in the dropship that currently has that weapon will be warped out to a designated level. Anyone that enters the level after you set the string that has the weapon will be warped out of the dropship. If anyone lags in and gets into the map by lag or something, the map would warp out anyone with the weapon designated in the string to prevent anyone from participating that has the event prize already. Once people warp into the map, the string is reset, so that you can set it again at another time.
You do have a fine idea, but I can't really see Stefan adding it in. It would also need to be set so ET's can enter with their weapons.

Gambet 10-20-2006 03:15 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jkool666 (Post 1233310)
You do have a fine idea, but I can't really see Stefan adding it in. It would also need to be set so ET's can enter with their weapons.

The script doesn't count ETs, so it would allow them inside if they had the event weapon or not.

Huwajux 10-20-2006 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by MisterMastermind (Post 1233241)
Blind ignorance.
I've already given my opinion on the matter. Thanks.

MisterMastermind 10-20-2006 10:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Huwajux (Post 1233458)
I've already given my opinion on the matter. Thanks.
Rehosting isn't an option seeing as all the sucky players are up to date with this rule.

dude2020 10-21-2006 01:03 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterMastermind (Post 1233548)
Rehosting isn't an option seeing as all the sucky players are up to date with this rule.
Typhoon stop *****ing about this if u want nubs who suck not to win them THEN make new p2ps =/

MisterMastermind 10-21-2006 06:09 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dude2020 (Post 1233609)
Typhoon stop *****ing about this if u want nubs who suck not to win them THEN make new p2ps =/
I'm not gonna spend 500+ dollars to win every damn event I go in. Bill gates doesn't even have that kind of money.

Googi 10-21-2006 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by MisterMastermind (Post 1233710)
I'm not gonna spend 500+ dollars to win every damn event I go in. Bill gates doesn't even have that kind of money.
This is looking less and less like you're trying to remove a stupid rule and more and more like it's about your ego.

bahamutstevetff 10-21-2006 02:00 PM
the best thing should be that if someone who has an event weapon wins, just cancell the event, less sucky people will have event weapons.

Huwajux 10-21-2006 02:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterMastermind (Post 1233548)
Rehosting isn't an option seeing as all the sucky players are up to date with this rule.
Sucky players? Someone wins an event that isn't you. Boo hoo. They must obviously suck.

dude2020 10-21-2006 04:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterMastermind (Post 1233710)
I'm not gonna spend 500+ dollars to win every damn event I go in. Bill gates doesn't even have that kind of money.
WEll then stop ****ing complaining then :\

Quote:
Originally Posted by Googi (Post 1233729)
This is looking less and less like you're trying to remove a stupid rule and more and more like it's about your ego.
agreed

Quote:
Originally Posted by bahamutstevetff (Post 1233814)
the best thing should be that if someone who has an event weapon wins, just cancell the event, less sucky people will have event weapons.
IXI, you just need to shut up w/ Typh becuz this is Baby Back Bull ****

MisterMastermind 10-21-2006 04:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bahamutstevetff (Post 1233814)
the best thing should be that if someone who has an event weapon wins, just cancell the event, less sucky people will have event weapons.
Exactly.
Quote:
Sucky players? Someone wins an event that isn't you. Boo hoo. They must obviously suck.
No, it's the fact that they run from everyone until I kill the rest of the players, then come running to the ET saying that I already have the weapon.

jkool666 10-21-2006 05:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Huwajux (Post 1233817)
Sucky players? Someone wins an event that isn't you. Boo hoo. They must obviously suck.
Typhoon and IXI don't like it because its impossible for them to win. I don't care what anyone says about cokcyness, ego whatever, if Typhoon or IXI are in an event, they will win. They shouldn't be punished for being better then everyone else.

Quote:
Originally Posted by dude2020 (Post 1233839)
IXI, you just need to shut up w/ Typh becuz this is Baby Back Bull ****
You're only not on their side because you know that Typhoon made this thread because you auto-won bluepistoles because of this dumb rule.


With this rule, a player only needs to get to the final two. It creates more teaming, more hiding and obviously more peoples (hense this thread). It needs to be changed, IXI's idea of just canceling the event was nice.

Crono 10-21-2006 05:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterMastermind (Post 1233241)
Yes, the topic is if sucky PlayerB should win WeaponX or not.
Event items aren't made for "pros" to have, they're made for people who win events. I don't even like Zone's hosting system. I'd rather have people go through a spar tournment but it's kind of hard to setup.

dude2020 10-21-2006 05:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jkool666 (Post 1233855)
Typhoon and IXI don't like it because its impossible for them to win. I don't care what anyone says about cokcyness, ego whatever, if Typhoon or IXI are in an event, they will win. They shouldn't be punished for being better then everyone else.
then see this they in all the events and so that They wold be the only ones Getting them until the ET dicides to just crap the whole thing SO thats one of the main reasons this rule was put in


Quote:
Originally Posted by jkool666
You're only not on their side because you know that Typhoon made this thread because you auto-won bluepistoles because of this dumb rule.
Acutally i would of Won bps again if this rule wasnt there :\ and in only siding w/ Huwa becuz this is Bull **** jsut complaining sounds more like of a support ticket type thing to me


Quote:
Originally Posted by Jkool666
With this rule, a player only needs to get to the final two. It creates more teaming, more hiding and obviously more peoples (hense this thread). It needs to be changed, IXI's idea of just canceling the event was nice.
And thats why the kicking function was made to Kick those cheaters and maybe when u go on tag u see all the nicks like when u press n to see hiders?

bahamutstevetff 10-21-2006 08:55 PM
i <3 jesse, john, go change ur nappies or dypers depending on your nationality. god like if some1 who already has event weapons wins then it should just be tough luck. cuz u didnt win, you didnt come out on top in an event so you do now win.

Huwajux 10-21-2006 09:09 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterMastermind (Post 1233844)
No, it's the fact that they run from everyone until I kill the rest of the players, then come running to the ET saying that I already have the weapon.
Then it seems you are the problem. If a good player wins an event item, fair enough. But taking part in an event for the same item will make it a more likely possibility that he will win again. So people hide from the good player because he has obviously won before, and they take advantage of it by hiding.

If people with the event item didn't play, then people wouldn't hide, because the amount of good players would deminish. Man, that's a sketchy explanation... I hope he doesn't use "TEHN IT'S WHO SUCK TEH LEEST"

bahamutstevetff 10-21-2006 09:16 PM
so people wouldnt deserve event items, honestly the event system on zone is so jewed.

Googi 10-21-2006 09:29 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterMastermind (Post 1233844)
No, it's the fact that they run from everyone until I kill the rest of the players, then come running to the ET saying that I already have the weapon.
Yeah, and making it so that you can only play if you don't already have the weapon is a perfectly good solution to this. The fact that you're rejecting this solution shows that you aren't really trying to change the current system (which is indeed a bad system) but just trying to monopolize event weapons.

MisterMastermind 10-21-2006 10:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jkool666 (Post 1233855)
Typhoon and IXI don't like it because its impossible for them to win. I don't care what anyone says about cokcyness, ego whatever, if Typhoon or IXI are in an event, they will win.
I'm tempted to force IXI on so that we can both dominate the map and make it so they HAVE to rehost.

Crono 10-21-2006 10:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterMastermind (Post 1234012)
I'm tempted to force IXI on so that we can both dominate the map and make it so they HAVE to rehost.
Ever heard of event disruption?

dude2020 10-21-2006 10:42 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bahamutstevetff (Post 1233968)
john, go change ur nappies or dypers depending on your nationality. god like if some1 who already has event weapons wins then it should just be tough luck. cuz u didnt win, you didnt come out on top in an event so you do now win.
IXI go change ur suckyness or noobess u damn Brit and Guess whats the solution??!?!?!?!?! THEY SHOULDNT BE IN THERE i think Gambets script should be put in

jkool666 10-21-2006 11:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dude2020 (Post 1233863)
Acutally i would of Won bps again if this rule wasnt there :\ and in only siding w/ Huwa becuz this is Bull **** jsut complaining sounds more like of a support ticket type thing to me
*Thinks back on that event* no, you lost, you came second, you auto won. Typhoon beat you. I remember this well from everyone afterwards complaining to me that you get the prize anyways and me having to explain this bs rule.
Quote:
Originally Posted by dude2020 (Post 1233863)
And thats why the kicking function was made to Kick those cheaters and maybe when u go on tag u see all the nicks like when u press n to see hiders?
John, theres one thing you don't quite understand. Why have something that has the potential to create a problem. Why not eliminate the potential all together.

dude2020 10-22-2006 12:05 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jkool666 (Post 1234029)
*Thinks back on that event* no, you lost, you came second, you auto won. Typhoon beat you. I remember this well from everyone afterwards complaining to me that you get the prize anyways and me having to explain this bs rule.
*Thinks back to that post* i never said THAT event now did i? No

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jkool666
John, theres one thing you don't quite understand. Why have something that has the potential to create a problem. Why not eliminate the potential all together.
Orly then tell me the Potential that would create the problem then? Vulcan acutally working for Viper? or Vulcan is Viper?

pooper200000 10-22-2006 12:09 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dude2020 (Post 1234037)
*Thinks back to that post* i never said THAT event now did i? No

Orly then tell me the Potential that would create the problem then? Vulcan acutally working for Viper? or Vulcan is Viper?
Vulcan is the cheerful viper tamer. I don't think its really important. The event outcome could have changed if that happened.

dude2020 10-22-2006 12:13 AM
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Originally Posted by pooper200000 (Post 1234041)
Vulcan is the cheerful viper tamer.
i shot out of the dark here Do u know who Viper is?
Quote:
Originally Posted by pooper200000
I don't think its really important. The event outcome could have changed if that happened.
Actually i really confused at this part of the post

pooper200000 10-22-2006 12:34 AM
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Originally Posted by dude2020 (Post 1234044)
i shot out of the dark here Do u know who Viper is? Actually i really confused at this part of the post
Yes I know who viper is and your always confused.

dude2020 10-22-2006 12:44 AM
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Originally Posted by pooper200000 (Post 1234052)
Yes I know who viper is
k and i ighly doubt Vulcan is a "Viper Tamer"
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sn
and your always confused.
and ur always werid

jkool666 10-22-2006 12:45 AM
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Originally Posted by dude2020 (Post 1234037)
*Thinks back to that post* i never said THAT event now did i? No
Then no, you wouldn't have bluepistoles, you won't be awarded those other ones because you lost them remember?
Quote:
Originally Posted by dude2020 (Post 1234037)
Orly then tell me the Potential that would create the problem then? Vulcan acutally working for Viper? or Vulcan is Viper?
Are you extremely stupid? Or just can't read? Good lord... Think then post. Go read the rest of this thread... I'm not showing you...

dude2020 10-22-2006 12:49 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jkool666 (Post 1234060)
Then no, you wouldn't have bluepistoles, you won't be awarded those other ones because you lost them remember?
i Still dont have Bps for the following reason:Vulcan doesnt have access to his other account WHICH I DOUBT and i could win Bps any ol time

Quote:
Originally Posted by jkool666
Are you extremely stupid? Or just can't read? Good lord... Think then post.
Are you extremely stupid? Or just can't u understand that im pissed off? Good lord...

Crono 10-22-2006 12:53 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dude2020 (Post 1234062)

Are you extremely stupid? Or just can't u understand that im pissed off? Good lord...
You should never EVER call ANYONE IN THE WORLD stupid. Specially you.

I already kind of posted my thoughts and people seemed to ignore it (because im always right of course). So -shrugs-.

dude2020 10-22-2006 12:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Gerami (Post 1234064)
You should never EVER call ANYONE IN THE WORLD stupid. Specially you.
All ****ing becuz i dont show it that doesnt mean i dont work my ****ing ass off at School and quite frankly i acutally do good so get ur ****ing facts right before u go bashing

Quote:
Originally Posted by Crono
(because im always right of course)
i lol'd at that


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