You're a keen one to call me ignorant, for instance, your belief that efficiency does not come into the spectrum of scripting well, when even I, a non-scripter, know that it's bad practice to lay your code as Hotrian does.

I find it funny how you clearly call me ignorant, and what's this here? Ignorance. I've seen both at work, and I can see Contiga is better. You don't know Contiga, Contiga gets the job done, and he's helped me many a time.

He was on the staff list, under (NAT), and he did the work I wanted. Besides, over AIM, he claims the reason he left was because of remarks made by you of racial and favouritist nature.

I probably do, but have you any evidence to back that up? I've managed to respond to all your arguments quite easily, where as you've used half-arsed replies and plain ignorance to fight your way through.

And I've already explained Contiga. He's a good friend, and a good worker. If I were to restart the Soakath project, I bet we'd get futher than I was by you. You made me lose motivation because you drove the workers away, you made me want to scream. I've found peace working on Babylon and some other projects, and I plan on starting my own project soon. I'm sure I can work to make it better Soakath's original plan, anyday.

Thats his problem but the script still goes the same


Fine thats your opinion

Anyone would fire him for his lack of talent in scripting, which could be a reason he got fired at Kudosai. And i didnt say anything about his race the day he quit, it was after when we were arguing on aim. And you of all people, have no place to call someone a racist, and i dont even care if its religion.



Im ignorant? OK. Actually yes i do. Lets see, Hotrian constantly asked for assignments, but you didnt do nothing. You didnt even work on that tileset which u only put 30 min of work into. You still havent gave me my accurate answers. All i hear from you is "You did nothing and drove staff away". Only one person was driven away and he was a noob. I respond to your remarks fully. You give me half a response of what i said.

Why are you being ingorant again. I didnt drive nobody away but rapidwolve and we already had Hotrian as a scripter who could script eveyrthing needed. Rapid wolve was incapable of that. No one was driven away by me. And dont even say moondeath, he didnt do anything, and should have been fired by any GOOD manager, but no, you wanted to keep him.

The script might do the same thing, but how you go about doing it makes your skill level apparent.

You obviously don't know the difference between an opinion and fact. Contiga complies with scripting standard, Hotrian can't, Contiga can do more than Hotrian in a more efficient way. What more do you want? It's fact.



Do you understand the difference between a race and a religion? Apparently not. You're still missing the point. I wanted him to stay, I had him on a project, and you drove him away with your favouritist and racial views. It doesn't matter if it was before or after but what was said post-quitting slimmed the chances of him coming back and finishing the work I wanted. Your favouritist views were that Hotrian was better than everyone and you liked to make fun of people because of that.

I asked Hotrian to make a magic system, where as, I ended up having to make it myself. You also don't have evidence to prove I spent such little time on the tileset. I did not spend 30 minutes on it, I spent longer. I admit, it wasn't as good as I would have made it now, but can't you see that I did things?

Supposedly, I did nothing. Apparently, I did, because I made the magic system, I made the tiles, I made the ideas, I fixed things, I made spell graphics, etc, etc.

You keep making remarks to my management skills, thinking I'd take offence. Ofcourse, I haven't had the experience managing, at all. I've basically summed up what I thinl, and what's evident with Hotrian, and Moondeath was willing to do things, I Nearly everyone was driven away by you. Your immaturity damaged the project. Soakath failed badly because you broke the bonds the staff needed to make.

Soakath is over and done with, and you keep continuing the argument, reviving a thread that's gone inactive just so you can try and deteriorate my feelings and emotions, but yet, whilst you're insulting me, I've got other people praising my work, and I've moved on. Why are you sitting in your shell? Is it because no other project will take you in as I did?

He sucked period.



No its an opinion. Actually just scratch it, i dont even care what you think of him.

I just talked to him adn he said he didnt leave for whatever racial joke i said to him because i said it AFTER he left. You're being ignorant again. But still you have no right too, and i just said not even if it was my religion. See you're ignorant again. Who said i thought Hotrian was better than everyone? He is obviously better than RapidWolve and you're just rumbling on about Contiga being better when i say ok.



He worked on Atrius but then he quit that place, and gave his full devotion to soakath till you removed him. Thats nothing, and it sucked. I tryed to bring more staff to soakath while you played with yourself in your chair. Most people didnt want to join because of the context that was just in front of them. Who is this staff that i drove away? Im clearly sure your trying to mean more than 1 person. Rapidwolve was one. Please give me others. Vahn didnt leave becasue of me, so dont make lies.

You only had a magic theme idea, WOW! Your spell script and such had to be fixed up greatly. Heck they didnt work.


Actually it failed becasue of you. You're laziness to do nothing was the cause. Stop being ignorant and to lie.

Im trying to tell you that you suck at your position. But you're trying to bumble things like i drove people away.


Please dont respond with this "I drove people away" crap, since it has clearly been responded to 3 times.

You wouldn't know, you haven't compared each other's work.

Yes, it's fact, it's not thoughts. Anyone can tell you that.

Which I interpret as "You can't call anyone racist, even if you're discriminating a religion, and not actually a race".

The fact that you're not accepting Contiga is better is my problem.

In other parts, he told me that you were insulting him, and then later made racial jibes.

For one, he quit graal in general, and you got him back in to scripting. Soakath was only a place to work. You never even contributed to the project apart from bringing a crappy scripter. The "BRB MASTURBATION" thing was a joke, whilst I did other things, so I was sure you won't disturb me. You drove everyone away from the original project, including me, the ring-leader of it.

Of course, but they worked, they did what I wanted to some extent. THe whole project was my good doing. You sat and did NOTHING.

My laziness? I wasn't being lazy, my friend. I was demotivated. I worked, until people started becoming inactive, and that's when I gave up. You actually call me lazy? You sat around and spammed the RC out whilst everyone was working. You didn't do jack.

But you did though, and I've acknowledged that I'm an inexperienced manager. Practice makes perfect. You drove people away, you made my project hell. Damn, I could have done it all on my own.

If you're willing to try, PM me.

Hotrian was good, a little sloppy, but still good. Any place is jsut a place to work. But all i can get out of this thing is that i drove people away. Who the hell did i drive away? You keep on saying that but only got a crappy scripter to leave. I wasnt even on Rc for 2 weeks due to my computer issues, and i never even talked in rc. Why do you lie. I dont even try to get your attention on rc or through pms, that was for aim i would. You didnt do **** except try to come up with some retarded magic thing that would not work out. Ask anyone who worked there, please, except for rapidwolve, if you ever did anything. You lost everyones intrest in it. Of course i did nothing, what was there to do. You wouldn't finish the tileset which should be the start and didnt even give assignment for a scripter who kept on asking for work. Practice makes perfect, what the hell? If you head a business and did the crappy job you seem to be doing now, you would get kicked out, and no practice would be able to fufill again.

In conclusion, i would like to know who i drove away for the exception of one person. I didnt even demotivate you lieing rat, i was gone for 2 weeks and when i came back is when i found it dead. Face it, you killed it, even Hotrian said so also.


Heres my closing act:

MysTicTruNks09: who do u think destroyed soakath?
Hotrian: Codein
Hotrian: the owner left
MysTicTruNks09: he thinks i drove everyone away
Hotrian: codein gave me no work
Hotrian: and he got mad if I wasnt on RC
Hotrian: or if I was on another server

There's a difference. In a company, the manager doesn't do little things like scripting, and graphics and the whole things.

You're full of crap, mate. It was never 2 weeks, and besides there was only Hotrian left after your little absence.

Hotrian needs to learn proper coding standards, and then I'd consider him 'good'. ***.

Magic was the premise of the server, you asswipe.

No, I didn't.

Yes you did, you drove away RapidWolve, oh and Lux came to me more than often saying "Dude, you got some noob staff. They suck. Annoying". Also, you did demotivate me, because you suck, and you can't develop what so ever.

Yes, I kiled it. Soakath was me, my doing, and I saw it wasn't working, so I ended the project.

Hrm? No I didn't. I told him "You can multistaff, I don't mind. Aslong as you pull your weight.". I gave him work. I told him to make a magic system I wanted making.
Besides we had ideas planned out for a new Soakath. He could have made the ideas we came up with? Why not though? Because he's got about the creativity of a peanut. Oh yah, for the record, Soakath isn't really dead, it's still being worked on. We've got a new concept and stuff.

I am closing this at the request of Codein...If the thread creater wishes to start it up again, please feel free.
Codein and Mystic, do your arguing elsewhere....not on the forums =/