Well, don't complain if you have the potential along with dozens of others to begin to fix it. You guys have a staff that will likely try to help out with that kind of stuff. I don't see why nobody's really bothered to ask for help with organizing major RP events, rather than trying to bring each other down.

That's fine.
Say as you please, It just doesn't bother me.

Kyden, fix your own kingdom before pushing problems on us, Daimyo.

And I say 'Greetings' because I can, so I will - and I RP ont he entire island, including the Trade Houses (which isnt required) so I suggest you back down and go fix those 20 some cities Samurai has that no one uses ;)

People must eventually fix the way things are on their own. We are here to help out with anything that may be needed, but we can't make people RP. We try to make sure the leaders do that within their own respective kingdoms. The most you can do is encourage that kind of stuff, and try to make sure that a nice level of roleplaying is going on.

Well most of the stuff is neglible until some effective kingdom mode comes into play in my opinion. But I do have stuff planned, I just have to take care of some things first before I can set them in motion.

You make it sound like I'm doing nothing with Samurai? Believe me I have moved on, I'm just astonished at the mockery Forest has become.

That was far from my point.

I don't get this... if you're on tag you should interact with others appropriately.

Why am I going to back down from someone with a faltered RPing past under a new character? But thats besides the point, I'm just stating things and honestly more concerned about the server RPing as a whole, not just Forest.

I understand that, I just think in GK's case you have to be extremely strict and literally hold people's hands when doing so. And again, I still think it's hard to do so effectively without some sort of kingdom mode.

I am not going to do that. You don't have to enforce strict rules to get people to RP. Doing so actually has the reverse effect.

I'm getting tired of this...
Every kingdom needs help, leaders are never perfect.
Everyone is always like: OMG I can be a better kingdom leader than him/her and when they get the chance they screw it up.
Graal Kingdoms need more RPers well than get your damn ass on there and proof how good you can RP instead of whining on here and saying you are the best.
If someone is screwing up a kingdom maybe you could try to give them some advise and help them out a bit? But no we all just post useless bashing threads about it in the hope they give it to someone else who in the ends seems to be even worse.
If you don't want to help the kingdom leaders out than shut up and stop complaining about the fact they suck.

Couldn't have said it better myself =D

It worked on 2k1 for the beginning, then once the ball was moving a bit people just stayed on board. I'm just desperate at this point.

Thanks, I already said that.

No need to get irate, and there is RPing going on.

You obviously have no clue about your own kingdom as well... I tried numerous times to give Lasaria advice about ranks etc. but she didn't seem to want to listen until there was the possibility she would be overthrown.

Is criticism not an attempt to help them out?


In an attempt to not go back and forth I'm not going to reply on anything with Forest anymore, like I said I'm over it. I only posted this because of Mydia's blatant verbal assault. However we can talk about ways to improve RPing in general.

You told me RPing wasnt important, heh heh, and you cant. You admitted that

I don't think you can judge that.

She admit it you retard

You made it sound like you said she can't, and then you said she admitted it.
Learn to write a CLEAR sentence? If you can class that as a sentence anyway. :rolleyes:

Waltz, this is not 2k1. Sure, it was meant to be somewhat similar, but has evolved into something quite different.

Obviously. What about some sort of kingdom mode? You've neglected to comment on that and I'm curious of your opinion on that. For that matter, everyone.

I gave my opinion months ago about kingdom mode. And as far as it happening, I wouldn't put all your eggs in one basket.

In short, if your so over Forest Kyden, try to go campaign and get it to where there are more than two Samurai tag members on at a time, and leave us be until you pull your own kingdom out of the ashes

So, Forest has more then 2 members on tag at a time? sure.

Actually, last night I counted 6....... ;)

This morning, I counted 0. :(

You have 0 knowledge of what is going on with Samurai, untill you do, kindly never comment on the subject again.

I have enough knowledge to know that during my entire period of being on today, only two people were on Samurai tag - you, and some 8 hour experience newb who was trying to get his kingdom tag on by saying

/setnick [insert name here] of /kingdom tag

8 hour newb became an Ashigaru... and you have the nerve to come to Forest whining about oUR problems!

Your joking me right, as soon as I saw it, I knew you were going to bring this up.

He didn't realize he still had his setnick up and had typed /kingdom tag. Hell I've done that same thing before, its comparable to Lasaria having her nick as "L". You didn't even give him a chance. And 8 hours YES. Guess what? He's a better roleplayer then you are and I don't need hours to tell me that.


And you still know NOTHING of what is going inside of my kingdom and untill you do, you have no right to say anything about it.

Such a hypocrite, :whatever:.

She said: I cant RP > She cant RP

Draven, you don't make any sense.

You can't RP is greater than her not being able to rp

?

Maybe she meant if she can't RP than he can't RP. That one didn't really make much sense...

Hardcore thinking

hmph
 

ok, now its my turn to speak

first off to andrew, your words toward kenshin didn't help in any way, all you did was annoy me by telling me the same facts over and over regarding a kingdom your in no way associated with. Kenshin helped me more then anyone on gk ever has, so i figured i would return the favor by giving him another chance to make up for all the hurt he has caused in the past. It took him maybe 2 days to personally insult me and be removed. He then appologized which i accepted, but still i kept him removed seeing as he showed me that he doesn't have full control of his actions. The wierdest part is that while this was happening, me and you were talking, and you were already aware that he was removed before you even posted this thread, and i had already told you it had nothing to do with you or his past scamming. So it seems to me you posted this to cause to trouble. Please allow me to thank you, as im sure everyone else appreciated you wasting thier time as much as i did (note the sarcasm?). However, I would like to
note that Andrew did spend his time helping forest create new Levels for blacksmiths and tailors, and i honestly do appreciate the help, its more then i have ever seen the rest of you do for forest, and i can use all the help i can get.
Also Andrew, saying something like "You have more then 2 people on tag at once?" and then overlooking the fact that you are on early and most of us play at night, is foolish. I persoanlly see at least 7 people on tag at once, every day. And you dont really have room to talk about people being inactive considering i have spent the past week trying to find you and can't manage to.

Next thing i would like to point out is about Kyden repeating my words "i might make a giant tree on forest", kyden if you will take a minute here and notice, we still dont have that tree, we have a crappy little brown one. I actually still have plans to make one, but tree GFX are not simple, and i have a lot of stuff to work on right now, seeing as im the only one working on it. Then you say something about Lasaria recruit, recruit, recruiting people non stop and not knowing them or where she puts them, i recruited those people and i know every one of them personally. i am friends with every forest member and talk to them every time i see them on tag. As for where i put them and why, it has nothing to do with you or your opinion of what you think the ranks should mean. I hate the rank system that we have now, its racially discriminatory, and the people of forest dont behave that way. Apparently you're the type of person that would like to call a priest by a different name simply because he's a black man,
but i can tell you right now im not that type. The people of forest all help and respect each other no matter the race, we are all equal so we will all be called by the same titles. Plus the ranks lack rangers and archers but we have orcish races and not a single orc, and we have 2 kinds of druids which is totally pointless anyway. And you seem to think that a paladin is also some rare holy creature, call me crazy, but i like to use the definition of the word to define what the word means. If i ever get the chance, i am gonna completely redo the ranks (sorry to disappont those who have nothing to do with forest) but thats how it is.
You also spend a lot of time complaining about how you want better role playing for someone who spends absolutely no time teaching people how to role play, even when i asked you to help, you ignored me, and proceeded with the complaints. Then you complain about how there are not enough events, but i have never seen you, being so mighty as you think you are, ever throw an event for forest members, Of coarse i only seen you wear yor tag a couple times and never participate or help in forest affairs. Even when i agree to give prizes from my own pocket people wont volinteer to do events or even help me with ideas for that matter. You all expect me alone to come up with the event ideas, gather prizes, throw the events, fix the castle, add trees to forest, open more shops, create levels, do graphics, have the new items added, teach everyone to role play, learn to script, rank older members members up. And you complain about how you have seen my graphics but the gear isn't added? You assume i spent hours and days
making new items just to sit them aside and not hand them out? Hate to break it to ya, but only staff can add my items in, and they wont do it. Same reason we dont have a better castle already, i have asked at least a dozen times, they are the ones not adding the work i do. My point is that i cant do 100 things at once, i can barely do 3 things at once, and if some of you people would stop taking time thinking about what you can complain about and started thinking about how you can make it better, things would move a lot faster, your only slowing me down by calling me insufficient and making me come here and state the facts. Instead of complaining about how las didn't respond when you gave her advice, how about giving me advice when i repeatedly ask for it? I admit that you kyden are probably a better role player then i am, i have too much on my mind most of the time to focus, but i still teach at least 1 person how to role play every time i am online, sometimes 3, and you "mr. superior" spent your time doing what? complaining! nice choice of actions, thanks for the assistance

now if you dont mind, i have better things to do then respond to your childish complaints. i for one, know i can use my skills for better things and i try my best to do so. Maybe you should take a minute to figure if the same is true for yourselves.

I hope Draxx knows Andrew quit.

Oh yeah, Andrew is back.

That wasn't my point, the point was you weren't aware of the concept of the Tree of Life at all.

One of my points... friends got to high places.

It's not my opinion, it's what those actual ranks mean.

The ranks are there for a reason, if you don't want to follow that ranking system then make a new one, that's fine... but don't go ignoring the current ranks and just put people anywhere.

Look at one of your most active members now, Valanduil. He definately had RPing skills but some were raw and I helped refine his skills when he was my Apprentice in the Elven Magi.

I wore my Forest tag when myself and Axen (here and there) were the only one on for several months before you were even around. And in case you haven't noticed, I left your kingdom a while ago.

I seem to remember a pretty long AIM conversation I had with you about suggestions/advice.

Actually I moved on and I'm helping Samurai (training, developmental stuff, etc.).

Huh? Then what do you call that long post?

You know, instead of splitting quotes like you just did, makes it amazingly hard to read, you could just quote one big part and bold the parts you want to put emphasis as..

I'm not even going to bother about trying to decode it.

No splitting quotes and replying to certain parts at a time makes it a hella alot easier to read...

The ammount of hours someone has shouldnt be a factor, and I'm glad to see Damix realizes that..I dont know who this 8 hour newb you speak of is, but I'm sure he is just as fit for the job as someone with 1k hours

Im pretty sure somebody with 1K hours, most of the time, has more experience and knowlegde then a '8hour newb'..

Not when it comes to Role playing, And thats what counts when having a position in a kingdom..
Its not like these people are playing Graal kingdoms as their first RPG, They probably have RP experience from other games as well...
Not everyone thrives on just being a nuisence for 2k hours

Some dont ^^

How is it hard to read when you put both the text you are responding to and your response together?

Then don't post.