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jkool666 12-21-2005 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by MisterMastermind
Both shoot 2 bullets.

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Originally Posted by icemaster
read what he said, hes talkin about BLUE bullets, hes talkin about blue pistols while everyone else is talkin about reds

No actually he is talking about redpistols... I can't understand what is wrong with his eyes. Redpistols are ApPirces. ApPirces shoot 4 bullets each doing 10 hp. This meening that Redpistols shoot 4 bullets each doing 10 hp... I really don't understand where he got the idea of redpistols hitting 20hp per bullet...
If this were true (simple math) 4x20=?. I don't know, hmm it appears its not 40...

icemaster 12-22-2005 01:24 AM

lol, well he said you see 'blue' bullets', if hes talkin about red (in fact) then jar....are you color blind o-o? (thats not a flame...just a question...a serious question)

MisterMastermind 12-22-2005 02:09 AM

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OMG, I am talking about redpistoles, if you would liek to see i'll screen shot it and post just to get my point across!

edit: Ok, I got on and did this (might only work with 3D lights off though)Pay attention to the blue dots...

jkool666 12-22-2005 04:43 AM

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Originally Posted by MisterMastermind
OMG, I am talking about redpistoles, if you would liek to see i'll screen shot it and post just to get my point across!

Redpistols shoot 4 the bullet FX, as shown in your screenshot, displays 2 hit marks. But redpistols shoot 4 bullets.

Wind_Master 12-22-2005 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by MisterMastermind
OMG, I am talking about redpistoles, if you would liek to see i'll screen shot it and post just to get my point across!

edit: Ok, I got on and did this (might only work with 3D lights off though)Pay attention to the blue dots...

4 bullets leave the gun barrel....end of disscusion.

VulcanP2P 12-22-2005 06:17 AM

MisterMastermind is right...the weapon shoots two projectiles and the GANI those projectiles use is zone_ammo_plasma. If anyone knows how to use GraalShop you can open that GANI and see how the two sprites move over each other which can give people the thought that it shoots 4 projectiles.

Wind_Master 12-22-2005 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by VulcanP2P
MisterMastermind is right...the weapon shoots two projectiles and the GANI those projectiles use is zone_ammo_plasma. If anyone knows how to use GraalShop you can open that GANI and see how the two sprites move over each other which can give people the thought that it shoots 4 projectiles.

It shoots 4 bullets though.

VulcanP2P 12-22-2005 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Wind_Master
It shoots 4 bullets though.

:whatever: You didn't even read what I said did you? It shoots two bullets. The bullet it shoots has a peculiar effect because the bullet looks like it splits but it is really the same projectile.

Wind_Master 12-22-2005 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by VulcanP2P
:whatever: You didn't even read what I said did you? It shoots two bullets. The bullet it shoots has a peculiar effect because the bullet looks like it splits but it is really the same projectile.

So your telling me 2 of the 4 bullets are just illusions?

MisterMastermind 12-22-2005 03:03 PM

Ok, jin you know the plasma rifle bullets? Well plasma rifle shoots same appearance of bullets but if you look it only hits in 1 spot... The RP bullets are the exact same except that they do more damage and can be dual equipped.

edit: omg he said it!
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Originally Posted by VulcanP2P
MisterMastermind is right...


icemaster 12-22-2005 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by MisterMastermind
Ok, jin you know the plasma rifle bullets? Well plasma rifle shoots same appearance of bullets but if you look it only hits in 1 spot... The RP bullets are the exact same except that they do more damage and can be dual equipped.

edit: omg he said it!

so what you're saying is...it shows the appaerance of 4 bullets, but actually only 2 does the damage? and if 1 of those illusions hits, thats the real bullet?

its as jin says, its an illusion...it cant be ANYTHING else if you say theres 2 bullets, yet there is 4 seen...thats what an illusion is

Wind_Master 12-23-2005 03:33 AM

When I shoot my rp's it shoots out 4 (red bullets). I dont care which are fake in all they shoot four.

Bl0nkt 12-23-2005 03:58 AM

Listen, think of ONE of those bullets.

In the gani, it takes two of them and moves them back and forth to create a look of two of them circling around.

So, you see two bullets. It only registers as one bullet, though, because they're in the same file (zone_ammo_plasma.gani).

icemaster 12-23-2005 04:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Bl0nkt
Listen, think of ONE of those bullets.

In the gani, it takes two of them and moves them back and forth to create a look of two of them circling around.

So, you see two bullets. It only registers as one bullet, though, because they're in the same file (zone_ammo_plasma.gani).

well...now it makes more sense, but i still say technically its 4...but hey, thats just this man's opinion ^^

Wind_Master 12-23-2005 04:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Bl0nkt
Listen, think of ONE of those bullets.

In the gani, it takes two of them and moves them back and forth to create a look of two of them circling around.

So, you see two bullets. It only registers as one bullet, though, because they're in the same file (zone_ammo_plasma.gani).

So your telling me that blue pistol only shoots out 1 bullet than?

Bl0nkt 12-23-2005 04:42 AM

It shoots out zone_ammo_plasmagun.gani.

In the gani, two images (the bullet images) are moving back and forth to create the look of two bullets.

MisterMastermind 12-23-2005 07:38 AM

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A picture says a thousand words...

VulcanP2P 12-23-2005 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by MisterMastermind
A picture says a thousand words...

*waits for the reply "thats 4 bulltes tho!"* >_<

anubis_wing 12-24-2005 12:23 AM

When are the new updates for Zone coming?

Wind_Master 12-24-2005 03:14 AM

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Originally Posted by MisterMastermind
A picture says a thousand words...

It says to me that theirs 4 bullets....thanks for admiting your wrong.

SayianOozaru 12-24-2005 03:34 AM

anyway, i believe the updates will come tomarrow when Stefan updates Zone with the sleighs and maybe weapons...if that's tomarrow, or sunday...one of em i think

icemaster 12-24-2005 05:44 AM

guys listen to wat vulcan (since hes admin) is sayin...(and bl0nkt since he made the ganis)

it shoots 2 shots...1 shot contains 2 bullet appearances...so but it shootin "2 bullets" theyr really sayin "2 shots"

in my opinion...its still 4 bullets, illusions if any...but their is 4 objects and if any of them hit they do damage...so i say 4...2 shots though (apparantly anyway)

Wind_Master 12-24-2005 05:54 AM

Well its 4 bullets in all but 2 sets of 2 bullets shoot out.

Huwajux 12-24-2005 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by VulcanP2P
*waits for the reply "thats 4 bulltes tho!"* >_<

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Originally Posted by Wind_Master
It says to me that theirs 4 bullets

Ha!

MisterMastermind 12-24-2005 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by VulcanP2P
MisterMastermind is right...

Don't ruin my moment of fame jin...

Wind_Master 12-27-2005 07:54 AM

So we all agree it shoots (2) bullets?

MisterMastermind 12-27-2005 07:59 AM

Yup...

Bl0nkt 12-27-2005 10:59 AM

Unbelievable.

Zulu15 01-02-2006 02:26 AM

Ok I edited the Red Pistol's bullets(Its in the same file than the Plasmariffle) and well...I was surprised, Stefan was too lazy to make a new shot for the plasmariffle(He only had the charged shot for it, made by Ako, SEKC) So what he did was he took two of the charged shots and made them spin around and ****... its three bullets per shot, theres two that can spin around and about every .5 seconds you can see a bullet in the middle when the other two go invisible, thats the one that does damage, theres just one bullet and three bullet GFX.

MisterMastermind 04-28-2006 01:09 AM

Class speed, which classes have the same speed and which don't.

Deophite18 05-02-2006 06:46 AM

What's highest rank and what is the exp required?

SayianOozaru 05-02-2006 07:03 AM

uh it's in my pro...

like legendary or somethin at 600k...i really can't remember so just read my sig

MisterMastermind 05-02-2006 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by SayianOozaru
uh it's in my pro...

like legendary or somethin at 600k...i really can't remember so just read my sig

Immortal at 600,000 experience, of course it could just be a myth.

jaws908 05-02-2006 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by MisterMastermind
Immortal at 600,000 experience, of course it could just be a myth.

I doubt it is, then agn yall better step on it b4 we're all old xD hurry up and get 600k b4 I deside to care and do it myself =P

Huwajux 05-02-2006 06:23 PM

Immortal? x_x
Doesn't that mean your invincible? If so, wouldn't it be stupid with players going "I killed an immortal".

MisterMastermind 05-02-2006 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Huwajux
Immortal? x_x
Doesn't that mean your invincible? If so, wouldn't it be stupid with players going "I killed an immortal".

Oh but that's the irony, the first immortal will be either me, you, jo or IXI. Immortal things can be killed. Invincible can't. Immortal just mean you're not mortal. Immortal: Never to be forgotten; everlasting.

Darlene159 05-02-2006 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by MisterMastermind
Oh but that's the irony, the first immortal will be either me, you, jo or IXI. Immortal things can be killed. Invincible can't. Immortal just mean you're not mortal. Immortal: Never to be forgotten; everlasting.

I sure thought immortal meant that you cannot be killed.
Looked it up:

adj-
1) Having unending existance; deathless

2) Lasting or enduring forever.

n-
1) A person considered worthy of immortality.

2) In mythology; a God.

Interesting :redface:

icemaster 05-03-2006 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Darlene159
I sure thought immortal meant that you cannot be killed.
Looked it up:

adj-
1) Having unending existance; deathless

2) Lasting or enduring forever.

n-
1) A person considered worthy of immortality.

2) In mythology; a God.

Interesting :redface:

the second half would fit :O

but if its a problem why not make it like deity or something :O *cough 1 of my guild ranks but i dont care*

someonesomewhere 05-03-2006 02:16 AM

Can the immortal thing, it's the name for Persian elite troops in the biblical ages :o

MisterMastermind 05-03-2006 02:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Darlene159
I sure thought immortal meant that you cannot be killed.
Looked it up:

adj-
1) Having unending existance; deathless

2) Lasting or enduring forever.

n-
1) A person considered worthy of immortality.

2) In mythology; a God.

Interesting :redface:

It depends on your point of view, but if I'm invincible at 600,000 experience. You will all fear my wrath >=O


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