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Scott 05-04-2004 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by ZER0_H0UR
Also, if MS Paint could handle transparency and the newest file types (maybe even plugins?) it would be the ULTIMATE graphics program (:

What new file types? Plugins are for lazy people, dude. That's was PSP and PS is for.

ZER0_H0UR 05-04-2004 09:31 PM

it's gif file format is le ****, and so is it's PNG

teshy2 05-04-2004 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ZER0_H0UR
Also, if MS Paint could handle transparency and the newest file types (maybe even plugins?) it would be the ULTIMATE graphics program (:

No, absolutely not. It would probably be the best pixel art program, but not the best graphics program. Everything's not graal you know. xD

Scott 05-04-2004 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ZER0_H0UR
it's gif file format is le ****, and so is it's PNG

Get WinXP.

ZER0_H0UR 05-05-2004 12:23 AM

WinXP Pro, holmes?

Scott 05-05-2004 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by ZER0_H0UR
WinXP Pro, holmes?

?
sadSADSFASDFSADF

ZER0_H0UR 05-05-2004 11:32 AM

I'm using WinXP Pro, holmes.

Mr-Cool 05-06-2004 04:03 AM

u people are so ignorant....

uncheck anti alias button in the option window. damn u dont even know what anti alias is

Scott 05-06-2004 05:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr-Cool
u people are so ignorant....

uncheck anti alias button in the option window. damn u dont even know what anti alias is

That's a pretty bold statement. Before calling everyone ignorant, pick a better word to describe us. Also, instead of indicating that ALL of us are ignorant, try pointing out who you think is inferior to your oh-so-divine self. Also, many people here know what anti-alias is, so I don't know what you're trying to accomplish by thinking you're the only person that does. From that post, you have lost all respect you may have once had from me. Mr-Cool, you are now Mr-Baka.

davidpsy 05-06-2004 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Scott
That's a pretty bold statement. Before calling everyone ignorant, pick a better word to describe us. Also, instead of indicating that ALL of us are ignorant, try pointing out who you think is inferior to your oh-so-divine self. Also, many people here know what anti-alias is, so I don't know what you're trying to accomplish by thinking you're the only person that does. From that post, you have lost all respect you may have once had from me. Mr-Cool, you are now Mr-Baka.


*sqwints his eyes like a asian man*

Two wrongs do not make a right, Young grass hopper.

ZER0_H0UR 05-06-2004 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr-Cool
u people are so ignorant....

uncheck anti alias button in the option window. damn u dont even know what anti alias is

News flash! Local ***** makes an idiot of himself!
Listen, d00d, We know what anti-aliasing is, I like paint because it's easy to use, and quick. Go grow a beard, or buy a sports car...

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Originally Posted by Scott
Stuff

you should'a just said why he was stupid, explained why we use paint, because his loss of respect should have been an obvious (;

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Originally Posted by davidpsy
*sqwints his eyes like a asian man*
Two wrongs do not make a right, Young grass hopper.

it does when you're putting a person in their place.

LordZen 05-06-2004 08:36 PM

I remember when I argued for ms paint on these forums, and I was in the minority by a landslide. This is a nice turn around. :)

Of course you must recognize that other programs have capabilities that ms paint does not, and so they have their uses. MS Paint is a bare bone simple program, that is user friendly and excellent for pixel work. For that simple basic function, it excels, and for that it should be respected.

Its also great to learn on.

ZER0_H0UR 05-06-2004 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by LordZen
I remember when I argued for ms paint on these forums, and I was in the minority by a landslide. This is a nice turn around. :)

Of course you must recognize that other programs have capabilities that ms paint does not, and so they have their uses. MS Paint is a bare bone simple program, that is user friendly and excellent for pixel work. For that simple basic function, it excels, and for that it should be respected.

Its also great to learn on.


Very good description, I use Adobe sometimes for shading, but since I always rape my images in it, I just use paint, it's great to learn with, and I find I'm learning more, and more everytime I shade in-detail on MS paint (:

Monkeyboy_McGee 05-06-2004 09:41 PM

One day, when i'm king of the world, im going to force bill gates to make a better zoom function on Paint. Then i'll take over the rest of the universe using the mad skills of MSpaint.

ZER0_H0UR 05-06-2004 11:40 PM

Ms paint's zoom is fine o.O

Scott 05-07-2004 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by davidpsy
*sqwints his eyes like a asian man*

Two wrongs do not make a right, Young grass hopper.

Don't ever referr yourself as to being my sensei, ever.
Also, where did I make a wrong? I simple explained to him what his fault was, and how he lost my respect. Shutup.

davidpsy 05-07-2004 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Scott
Don't ever referr yourself as to being my sensei, ever.

:rolleyes:


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Originally Posted by Scott
Also, where did I make a wrong? I simple explained to him what his fault was, and how he lost my respect.

Yes but in doing so you called him an idiot and were mean to him.

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Originally Posted by Scott
Shutup.

You still have much to learn, cheif/young-grasshopper.

teshy2 05-07-2004 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ZER0_H0UR
Ms paint's zoom is fine o.O

Well, not really. You can only zoom between set numbers, that's not really flexible.

Mr-Cool 05-07-2004 06:57 PM

MS paint is a piece of garbage. it is good for kids doodling and making funny pictures to put on the desktop. Everything paint does, psp does better. the reason you disagree with me is becuase you arent familiar with both. so you defend the only one you have used. Its made me better at gfxing and it sure takes a hell of a lot less time to make anything

mr-cool is the worst account name ever.

im getting my real one upgraded soon!

ZER0_H0UR 05-07-2004 07:11 PM

Dear Mr-Cool,

We regret to inform you you're a giant idiot, though we cannot appologize for this action, we can ask you one simple task:

Please sir, shut your little mouth.

In closing we would like you to live, or perhaps have a great day. If you have any problems please feel free to IM me, or email me. If you would like to send me hate mail please feel free to send it to my dead email listed below.

Thankyou,



Stephen A.



The MS Paint zoom:

They're fixed because they're all ratios, and who needs to go to like.. 12x12 anyways?

Donald:

Stop man, that's really stupid, practice it in thought, if you want, but don't preach it for god's sake.

Mr-Cool 05-07-2004 07:27 PM

what the hell is your deal. your just making an ass of yourself

teshy2 05-07-2004 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr-Cool
MS paint is a piece of garbage. it is good for kids doodling and making funny pictures to put on the desktop. Everything paint does, psp does better. the reason you disagree with me is becuase you arent familiar with both. so you defend the only one you have used. Its made me better at gfxing and it sure takes a hell of a lot less time to make anything

mr-cool is the worst account name ever.

im getting my real one upgraded soon!

If MS-Paint was a "piece of garbage" it wouldn't be one of, if not the, most used graphics program on earth.

I seldom use Paint, but when I do, it's because there is simply no other software that can do the basic but needed things that Paint excels at. No matter how you look at it, with or without anti-aliasing, the drawing tools in PSP, PhotoShop and PhotoImpact just aren't flexible and fast enough.

teshy2 05-07-2004 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr-Cool
what the hell is your deal. your just making an ass of yourself

Not to be rude, but I think that would be you. :\

Mr-Cool 05-07-2004 07:36 PM

ms paint is the most widely used becuase its already in your computer when you buy it.
they are just as fast and if not more flexible. you just have to explore the different menus and tabs in the tool options

how am i the ass. zero makes bashing posts that add nothing to the topic.

davidpsy 05-07-2004 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr-Cool
ms paint is the most widely used becuase its already in your computer when you buy it.


Yes but ms paint is easyer to use beacuse its faster at certain things.

1 you can make the size of the entire image bigger just by grabing the end and draging.

2 you can select a back ground color and make it transparent and put 1 image over another very quickly.

Now I must say I like psp7s zoom and the fact that when I press ctrl I can use the eye dropper tool real fast to select a color.


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Originally Posted by ZER0_H0UR
Dear Mr-Cool,
We regret to inform you you're a giant idiot, though we cannot appologize for this action, we can ask you one simple task:
Please sir, shut your little mouth.
In closing we would like you to die, or perhaps break your back. If you have any problems please feel free to IM me, or email me. If you would like to send me hate mail please feel free to send it to my dead email listed below.
Thankyou,
Stephen A.
Donald:

Stop man, that's really stupid, practice it in thought, if you want, but don't preach it for god's sake.

Look at your self dude, your telling him to go die over a few comments he made in a forum thread... That is "really stupid".

Myomoto 05-07-2004 07:42 PM

Ms Paint is by far the best GFX program, it is THE BEST program for outlines i have ever seen, altough it's not THE BEST for coloring(a little bit slower etc.), that's why you have a 2nd program for coloring, a real artist have more than one brush too ;)

Mr-Cool 05-07-2004 07:43 PM

aactually don i think you can just hold shift or alt. one of those and it changed to the eyedropper.

teshy2 05-07-2004 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr-Cool
ms paint is the most widely used becuase its already in your computer when you buy it.
they are just as fast and if not more flexible. you just have to explore the different menus and tabs in the tool options

how am i the ass. zero makes bashing posts that add nothing to the topic.

I know, I have used both PSP, PhotoShop and Paint and explored them deeply. I'm not talking about the amount of tools, I'm talking about using the tool itself to create something inside the software. At this Paint is the fastest and most flexible.

You are an ass because you swear, insult and overall rudeness in most of your posts.

ZER0_H0UR 05-07-2004 07:57 PM

Yes, I am asking him to live, I've lost tolerance for people who expect to walk in and run the show with ill made opinions. It's *****ic, and even I didn't do that.

MS Paint is among the best because it's simplistic, it teaches you how brushes work, how to shade, etc. MS Paint is also superior because it comes free with your windows version, and as Mr. Cool said earlier, it comes on every computer. (assuming you use a version of Windows)

I've already mentioned my reasons for being "very stupid" But, I doubt I can stand people shouting out ill founded opinions, which seem to have no base except a few poor decisions, or bad impressions. This inane idiocy disgusts me, and although I've always detested it, I only now share how I feel, and if you don't like how I feel on this topic, than I'm not going to stop you, but I'm sure there are many more you will agree with me on.

LordZen 05-07-2004 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ZER0_H0UR
I doubt I can stand people shouting out ill founded opinions, which seem to have no base except a few poor decisions, or bad impressions. This inane idiocy disgusts me

A conservative then, I take it? ;)

Uh please you guys settle down. Its ok to argue about it night and day but dont wish death apon other members of the forums, infact I think you should get a warning for that.

Yep, just did.

ZER0_H0UR 05-07-2004 09:11 PM

I have no favor for "traditional" opinions, but I think that any opinion with a fowl base is worthless, well on the other hand I find well based opinions the most important.

LordZen 05-07-2004 09:20 PM

I was just kidding around. I was mixing in my own opinion there about the left XD

ZER0_H0UR 05-07-2004 09:35 PM

Though, once again I'm getting off topic, I would like to say that Tesh has an excellent signature, I like the picture alot. (not as though we're not already off topic)

alarid0 05-07-2004 09:36 PM

wow
everyone is saying stuff about ms paint that EVERY OTHER PROGRAM already has!

the only benefit to MS paint is the curve tool.... nothing else is "the best" or "far superior"

LordZen 05-07-2004 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by alarid0
wow
everyone is saying stuff about ms paint that EVERY OTHER PROGRAM already has!

the only benefit to MS paint is the curve tool.... nothing else is "the best" or "far superior"


Yes, other programs have what ms paint does by in large, I believe I pointed out that it is merely a bare bone basic program.

Its merit lies in its simplicity.

ZER0_H0UR 05-07-2004 09:53 PM

Yes, exactley, and Alarid: Photoshop has a bend tool in it aswell (:

teshy2 05-07-2004 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ZER0_H0UR
Though, once again I'm getting off topic, I would like to say that Tesh has an excellent signature, I like the picture alot. (not as though we're not already off topic)

Thank you very much. ^__^
You can visit the artist's gallery here. Wonderful artwork.

Galdor 05-07-2004 10:21 PM

hes been painting for Blind Guardian =O
ppl... thats awesome ;]

davidpsy 05-07-2004 10:28 PM

I cant see tesh's signature =/.

Galdor 05-07-2004 10:33 PM

http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/33/tesh_sig.png
here it is. does it show now?... its something fishy with asphost -_+


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