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Mykel 07-19-2003 02:01 AM

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Originally posted by Tseng


They are completely unfair to those who do not "shove their work out into the public eye" though.

Yes, partially true I suppose. But anyway, it's for fun, so lets have fun and not try to find a problem with everything.

Mykel 07-19-2003 02:02 AM

Sry for double post. Tomorrow I will post the polls, GFX in the GFX, LAT in levels forum, NAT " ", PW stuff in PW forum. Dev I wil just post in LAT forum. Global staff in Main.

Tseng 07-19-2003 02:03 AM

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Originally posted by Mykel
Sry for double post. Tomorrow I will post the polls, GFX in the GFX, LAT in levels forum, NAT " ", PW stuff in PW forum. Dev I wil just post in LAT forum. Global staff in Main.
Spam away, brother! Spam away! :p

Mykel 07-19-2003 02:05 AM

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Originally posted by Tseng


Spam away, brother! Spam away! :p

:( I said Sorry, :(










:)

Tseng 07-19-2003 02:09 AM

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Originally posted by Mykel
:( I said Sorry, :(
I was referring to you saying about posting things in all the other forums x.x;;;

Androk 07-19-2003 02:09 AM

I agree with Tseng on this one.

Mykel 07-19-2003 02:10 AM

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Originally posted by Tseng


I was referring to you saying about posting things in all the other forums x.x;;;

Oh, lol. Heh. Well, not like I have anything to gain by the posts, already at 1k.

Tseng 07-19-2003 02:12 AM

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Originally posted by Mykel
Oh, lol. Heh. Well, not like I have anything to gain by the posts, already at 1k.
That does not change the fact that you would be cluttering up all those other forums as well. :-\

Mykel 07-19-2003 02:13 AM

So? They will fall to the bottom when its over. I will have the poll so its only open for like 2 days, and I belive you can make it so noone can post in it. I think. :confused:

draygin 07-19-2003 02:13 AM

Re: Graalian Awards.
 
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Originally posted by Mykel
Level-Builder of the year: Spanky, Madmartigan (draygin), Wandaman[/B]

*claps his trophy to his chest*

You like me! You really like me! *weeps with happiness* :p

Mykel 07-19-2003 02:18 AM

Re: Re: Graalian Awards.
 
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Originally posted by draygin



*claps his trophy to his chest*

You like me! You really like me! *weeps with happiness* :p

You havn't won yet, lol, you were just nominated. :)

draygin 07-19-2003 04:22 AM

LOL I dont care about winning. ;) I just enjoy some recognition. Out of all the level makers and only 3 where named. Yea I'd say I already won. Just not in the way you intended. :p

Mykel 07-19-2003 05:44 AM

I am going to post the polls now. Will be open for 2 days. Please guys, go vote!

[edit]The awards are posted, early, i know. But just so you know its in good fun, they will be deleted in two days when the poll stops and i collect the results. (kai already told me he would) [/edit]

You may not agree with it, fine, then dont vote. :)

[edit2]there are 2 awards in the main forum, 2 in PW, and one in each GFX, NAT, and LAT[/edit2]

Tseng 07-19-2003 07:33 AM

It's.

Still.

Spam.

NeoJenova 07-19-2003 07:48 AM

What is this! No sexiest graalian award, I am really dissapointed... thought I could be a shoe in for that award. :mad:

superb 07-19-2003 12:17 PM

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Originally posted by Soul-Blade


Regardless them being right on, what does a insult do for someone? No good.



Well, an insult is a means to express a negative opinion about something. It has meaning for the person because it allows them to show others how they feel. Therefore, insults do serve a purpose. Whether this purpose is good or bad is subjective.

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Maturity sees it useless to insult someone, because it is useless.


But as I explained, insults do serve a purpose. Whether this purpose is good or bad is up to you to decide. Right and wrong isn't the issue here and maturity by definition does not deal with such things. In simplest terms, maturity is the state of being fully developed (and in this case I suppose it would be mental development). No definition of maturity addresses abstracts like right and wrong so anything you associate with maturity is subjective..

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Looking at a grandma or grandpa is the best example (a normal one).


There you go again with the abstracts. What is normal?

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They don't insult people much, and they just want to make people happy. They don't have greed, hate, anything like that. They have been around longer, and are the most mature in society. But no one is mature, and everything is immature...do you understand what I am saying?
I suppose that's your interpretation of normality. This normaility you describe does not appear to be the status quo. In a perfect world I suppose senior citizens could be like that, but in reality many are not. I'd dare say the majority of them are not. This is besides your point though. You seem to be saying that no matter how mature you become (though I would NOT say that seniority = maturity as you imply with your example), you can never fully mature. The problem here lies on what you consider to be mature. Standards would have to be set for this to be completely true. Otherwise you are just putting a subjective meaning to maturity. What I consider to be mature may be immature in your eyes. So basically, mature has an objective denotation, but a completely subjective connotation. The reason for this being that while the definition says the state of being fully developed...what you consider to be "fully developed" is entirely subjective.

Tseng 07-19-2003 12:38 PM

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Originally posted by superb


Well, an insult is a means to express a negative opinion about something. It has meaning for the person because it allows them to show others how they feel. Therefore, insults do serve a purpose. Whether this purpose is good or bad is subjective.


Incorrect. An insult is not defined as necessarily negative - for something to be an insult, it must be offensive, by definition. Thus, you could insult someone by saying "My, you look nice today!" when in fact they might have mud on their face and clothing.

As for them serving a purpose, I doubt that telling some random person on the street "F--- YOU!" would serve any purpose at all, other than offending them. I believe you are mixing up "insult" and "criticize."

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But as I explained, insults do serve a purpose.
Disproven.

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Whether this purpose is good or bad is up to you to decide.
Irrelevant.

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Right and wrong isn't the issue here and maturity by definition does not deal with such things. In simplest terms, maturity is the state of being fully developed (and in this case I suppose it would be mental development). No definition of maturity addresses abstracts like right and wrong so anything you associate with maturity is subjective..
More mental development would give someone the mental power to simply shrug off an offensive comment, would it not? Right and wrong is not at issue here, as you said. :)

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There you go again with the abstracts. What is normal?
In this case, he refers to stereotypical. Normal was not the best choice of words.

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I suppose that's your interpretation of normality. This normaility you describe does not appear to be the status quo. In a perfect world I suppose senior citizens could be like that, but in reality many are not. I'd dare say the majority of them are not. This is besides your point though.
I'm sorry your experiences with grandparents have been other than nice.

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You seem to be saying that no matter how mature you become (though I would NOT say that seniority = maturity as you imply with your example), you can never fully mature.
His post nowhere implies that you can never fully mature - it implies that someone who is more mature would not be calling someone else "immature", becuase they would be wiser than to do so.

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The problem here lies on what you consider to be mature. Standards would have to be set for this to be completely true. Otherwise you are just putting a subjective meaning to maturity. What I consider to be mature may be immature in your eyes. So basically, mature has an objective denotation, but a completely subjective connotation. The reason for this being that while the definition says the state of being fully developed...what you consider to be "fully developed" is entirely subjective.
Regardless of who defines mature as what, do you not agree that objectively, someone with more mental development would be able to shrug off insults directed at him/her? And would you also agree that when one reaches a certain stage of mental development, it would become unnecessary for them to label other people as "immature"?

superb 07-19-2003 02:17 PM

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Originally posted by Tseng


Incorrect. An insult is not defined as necessarily negative - for something to be an insult, it must be offensive, by definition. Thus, you could insult someone by saying "My, you look nice today!" when in fact they might have mud on their face and clothing.

As for them serving a purpose, I doubt that telling some random person on the street "F--- YOU!" would serve any purpose at all, other than offending them. I believe you are mixing up "insult" and "criticize."



Disproven.



Irrelevant.



More mental development would give someone the mental power to simply shrug off an offensive comment, would it not? Right and wrong is not at issue here, as you said. :)



In this case, he refers to stereotypical. Normal was not the best choice of words.



I'm sorry your experiences with grandparents have been other than nice.



His post nowhere implies that you can never fully mature - it implies that someone who is more mature would not be calling someone else "immature", becuase they would be wiser than to do so.



Regardless of who defines mature as what, do you not agree that objectively, someone with more mental development would be able to shrug off insults directed at him/her? And would you also agree that when one reaches a certain stage of mental development, it would become unnecessary for them to label other people as "immature"?

That's what I get for trying to debate at 5AM. :)

Krakken 07-19-2003 02:22 PM

We don't get much bloody choice do we?

protagonist 07-19-2003 02:28 PM

The argument that this thread is spam is ridiculas. We are allowed to have fun, you know.

Soul-Blade 07-19-2003 11:16 PM

Whew, I thought I would have to reply to him, and I'm not in the mood to type. Thanks Tseng...

I'm gonna be sure to save this thread, then if anyone calls anyone else immature I will link them here ;)

superb 07-20-2003 12:18 AM

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Originally posted by Soul-Blade
Whew, I thought I would have to reply to him, and I'm not in the mood to type. Thanks Tseng...

I'm gonna be sure to save this thread, then if anyone calls anyone else immature I will link them here ;)

Likewise...:) It was 5 AM and for some reason I felt the need to open my big mouth lol. :p

Geno 07-20-2003 08:58 AM

Re: Graalian Awards.
 
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Originally posted by Mykel
Soon I will make polls for each of these in the forum that matches. But I am doing something that is sort of like a awards show.

It will be called the Graalian Awards:

Nominees:

Scripter of the year: Kaimetsu, Falados, Loriel

GFX Artistof the year: Kinatt, Konidias, Madwolf

Level-Builder of the year: Spanky, Madmartigan (draygin), Wandaman

Overall Developer of the year: Konidias, Soul-blade, Kuja

Global Staff of the year: Lyndzey, Spark911, Stefan

Playerworld of the year: Graal2001, Unholy Nation, Era

UC Playerworld of the year: Oasis, Shifting Ages, Val


Playerworld is based on the PW which has made the greatest strides this year, and the same with UC PW. The nominees will not change, but feel free to argue.

The nominess were decided by a popular vote of the following people: Mykel, Konidias, Tyrial, and Kronan

uh what the hell?
1. 4 people get to pick who should be nominated? no.
2. playerworld of the year, Graal 2001 is on this list. Graal2001 just went into the classic catigory a week or 2 ago, so what the hell is it doing in playerowrld OF THE YEAR?
3.PWA is not GLOBAL STAFF, you said global staff of the year and you put Spark911. he is staff on graal kingdoms?
4. these awards are unoffical and in my opinon flat out stupid becuase you only give a list of 3 people that are well known.

Mykel 07-20-2003 09:11 PM

Re: Re: Graalian Awards.
 
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Originally posted by Geno


uh what the hell?
1. 4 people get to pick who should be nominated? no.

Yes.
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4. these awards are unoffical
REELY?

Golbez 07-21-2003 04:24 AM

When were these nominations because I never saw any... I would of voted for Graal 3000 and BirdBird for Developer :(

tlf288 07-21-2003 04:35 AM

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Originally posted by Golbez
I would of voted for ... BirdBird for Developer :(
Why? Birdbird couldn't script his way out of a paper bag.

Mykel 07-21-2003 05:42 AM

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Originally posted by tlf288


Why? Birdbird couldn't script his way out of a paper bag.

But he could LAT and GFX his way out of a cement, uhhh, thing.

tlf288 07-21-2003 06:18 AM

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Originally posted by Mykel
But he could LAT and GFX his way out of a cement, uhhh, thing.
That still means he isn't an overall developer though.

Don't use 'LAT' and 'GFX' as verbs :( .

Demon 07-23-2003 07:35 PM

lol! I think Kinatt should be removed from gfx. He's stupid. XD

protagonist 07-23-2003 07:44 PM

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Originally posted by Demon
lol! I think Kinatt should be removed from gfx. He's stupid. XD
Agreed.


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