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Minoc 07-07-2003 05:21 AM

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Originally posted by Tseng
The new HP system will be kept.
Why??

Ziro_Vitrudestec 07-07-2003 05:24 AM

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Originally posted by Minoc

Why??

Woah, I didn't catch that. Thanks. Graal 2002 already has a number-based HP system...we don't need 2 GK's (well, actually, that would work fine, to upload a new GK, but that's a whole different story), we need G2k1. Arid Haven better come out as a good G2k1 :(

Thought 07-07-2003 05:55 AM

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Originally posted by Mykel
I have wondered that for a long time.
From what I know, it is/was a project to restore Graal 2001 to how it was in 2001 (?). It was previously a hidden server (development) named Graal 2001, then it was later renamed Arid Haven.

James 07-07-2003 08:06 AM

I enabled global guilds.

As for the current HP system it most likely will stay for normal PKing, we may change it back for spars and kingdom events though. What I just said could be a little confusing. We will most likely have both HP systems, just the old one will be enabled for spars and kingdom events and the new one will be used for questing, PKing, etc.

superb 07-07-2003 08:21 AM

I fail to see the usefulness in that. Why keep a system that obviously your players don't want in place?

Golbez 07-07-2003 08:22 AM

Yay *cheers* 2k1 is back! But its under classic.......

superb 07-07-2003 08:23 AM

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Yay *cheers* 2k1 is back! But its under classic.......
More players yes, but I fail to see how 4 levels constitutes "being back".

Ne0 07-07-2003 08:26 AM

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People obviously love it, i'll post this screenshot again. Everyone loves these 4 levels, there was 44 people in these 4 rooms earlier. I don't know if it's more or less now, i'm going to get on again though... It keeps pulling me back into it's 4 levels ^_^ -- It reminds me of all the fun I had back then, like when the bomy moon hit, and it was all bright before it hit, and if you were outside it would hurt you so much so often, that was so fun... I miss those days... That's why i'm thrilled that they're coming back ^_^

James 07-07-2003 08:52 AM

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Originally posted by superb
I fail to see the usefulness in that. Why keep a system that obviously your players don't want in place?

Then again why live in a country where you have to pay taxes?

Golbez 07-07-2003 09:19 AM

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Originally posted by James



Then again why live in a country where you have to pay taxes?

Because were forced to >=(

Ziro_Vitrudestec 07-07-2003 09:57 AM

People pay for for life in many ways to get something in return depending on how much they put into their life. We pay for Graal in the same manner. I suppose since we are not paying enough, playerworld managers will intentionally do things to the game which players do not like.

GhettoChild 07-07-2003 10:03 AM

My first successful post, lol

superb 07-07-2003 10:20 AM

My point is, you are seeking players. Not listening to them or giving them what they want (within limits) is going to drive them away? Why should they stay on a server where the management doesn't care about what they think?

Minoc 07-07-2003 10:59 AM

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Originally posted by superb
Why should they stay on a server where the management doesn't care about what they think?
Because some players are addicted :\

ZanderX 07-07-2003 11:33 AM

But they wouldn't do it when I was Manager, and I was fired for waiting for a response from Stefan on the Classic issue. :rolleyes: Oh well. [/bitter]

Crono 07-07-2003 02:45 PM

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Originally posted by Lyndzey
1) Bring back old bodies
2) Allow global guild tags
3) Bring back old HP/sword system

Most of the players will want what I have listed. Remember, this is a classic server now and guild life has become important. Sorry but the bodies do not fit the big Graal heads, and the heart system/sword system seems glitchy.

Word.

Lyndzey 07-07-2003 03:46 PM

Please also disable the human->bomy/bomy->human thing when the main world opens up.

Why? Because that ruins the entire point of choosing a race. It also ends the bomy/human wars we had at the beginning of Graal2001.

[Edit]Please explain why you are putting valuable items in the unstick me place, it ruins the whole point of the quests. Some people (like me) have valuable items and don't want to be reset >:[[/Edit]

protagonist 07-07-2003 04:41 PM

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Originally posted by Lyndzey


Yea, I remember a picture of that...be sure to make a girl type look (but not those like thin little dress things).
Like casual clothes such as short shorts (girls are not allowed to wear long shorts) and tank tops (I refuse to wear a thick strapped tank top)


Yay, no more need to ALT-TAB.

superb 07-07-2003 05:30 PM

Doesn't really matter too much unfortunately Lyndzey. Tseng said in a previous thread that there would be another reset once they are ready to release the main world.

--Chris-- 07-07-2003 07:46 PM

Actually it was me Androk ;p
Anyways, send me the sprites please <3 If you need the ganis done still I'll do it in a sec :)

James 07-07-2003 08:41 PM

You actually think I'd be giving all those items out if we weren't going to reset? Don't make me laugh. Of course you are going to have to earn them. We're just giving you all a little preview (mostly to new players) of what they can get.

Lyndzey 07-07-2003 08:45 PM

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Originally posted by James
You actually think I'd be giving all those items out if we weren't going to reset? Don't make me laugh. Of course you are going to have to earn them. We're just giving you all a little preview (mostly to new players) of what they can get.
Read my post. I already worked for a fishing pole and I don't want to have to give it up just because someone didn't fix the unstick me.

James 07-07-2003 08:52 PM

I'll take it into consideration, but the server will be reset.

Lyndzey 07-07-2003 11:22 PM

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Originally posted by James
I'll take it into consideration, but the server will be reset.
Do you have a picture of the bodies Konidias made? I remember looking at them and I really want to see what they look like again.

GhettoChild 07-10-2003 03:15 PM

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Originally posted by superb
My point is, you are seeking players. Not listening to them or giving them what they want (within limits) is going to drive them away? Why should they stay on a server where the management doesn't care about what they think?
Who said we were SEEKING players? They have been seeking 2k1 and they found it. It was open and released for 1 night before we put them in waiting levels. We did it so we can finish the server so they don't have to play on a half crapped one. Management cares a LOT. They all have been working very hard

GhettoChild 07-10-2003 03:17 PM

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Originally posted by James
I'll take it into consideration, but the server will be reset.
Right after I did the Stefan Quest and Zalatic Labs quest?

Lyndzey 07-10-2003 07:17 PM

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Originally posted by GhettoChild


Who said we were SEEKING players? They have been seeking 2k1 and they found it. It was open and released for 1 night before we put them in waiting levels. We did it so we can finish the server so they don't have to play on a half crapped one. Management cares a LOT. They all have been working very hard

I think he meant that the management is not going to give what the players want (old HP system)

TripleE 07-11-2003 12:25 AM

Re: You Heard Right...2k1 Is BACK!!
 
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Originally posted by GhettoChild
You've all been saying it's dead but you're all wrong. 2k1 is Classic finally but you won't be able to do much for a little while. You'll have to be in the waiting room...waiting...for the completion of the server.

Let me tell ya, this is going to be an awesome server. James is giving us some great direction and Kramer and I will try to make some 1337 graphics. Don't worry though, the real 2k1 will stay in tact, it won't be overrun by new things, but there will be plenty of new things :D I am just so excited :D

GhettoChild - Assist. (GFX Admin)

I dont even think your staff there. X_x

Ziro_Vitrudestec 07-11-2003 02:38 AM

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Originally posted by Lyndzey


I think he meant that the management is not going to give what the players want (old HP system)

That's ridiculous. Are the Graal 2001 and Graal the adventure servers going to be included in the playerworld regulations, meaning that managers have to pay if they dont reach the top 7 best? Or will they just be considered as official GraalOnline worlds? One of the 2 should be done. If the second is done, then they should do what the players want. But I'd understand if it was a playerworld....managers can run it anyway they want as long as they are favored by players or will pay for their playerworld....

Demon 07-11-2003 07:23 AM

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Originally posted by Ziro_Vitrudestec


That's ridiculous. Are the Graal 2001 and Graal the adventure servers going to be included in the playerworld regulations, meaning that managers have to pay if they dont reach the top 7 best? Or will they just be considered as official GraalOnline worlds? One of the 2 should be done. If the second is done, then they should do what the players want. But I'd understand if it was a playerworld....managers can run it anyway they want as long as they are favored by players or will pay for their playerworld....

2k2, 2k1, 2k(?), and Classic are all official servers, and even if nobody played em they wouldnt have to pay anyone.

James 07-11-2003 07:53 AM

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Originally posted by Lyndzey


I think he meant that the management is not going to give what the players want (old HP system)

Make a poll and if over 70% of the players want the old HP system it will be done. Otherwise it will only be taken into consideration.

Tseng 07-11-2003 09:02 AM

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Originally posted by James


Make a poll and if over 70% of the players want the old HP system it will be done. Otherwise it will only be taken into consideration.

The new system is far superior, for projectiles, weapons, and the like.

I believe users simply disliked the 'difference' of it, as well as some implementation problems. Let's see if we can't re-implement it in a more efficient, simpler manner. For one thing, spars take far too long in the new system, which was a big complaint. So, let's make the max HP less. I always thought it was rather arbitrary to have 33.3 HP per heart - let's make it 5 or 10 or 20. Something more managable, and more evenly divisible for quests.

Like I said - it's all about the implementation.

GhettoChild 07-11-2003 10:48 AM

Re: Re: You Heard Right...2k1 Is BACK!!
 
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Originally posted by TripleE

I dont even think your staff there. X_x

Oh but I am

GhettoChild 07-25-2003 12:00 AM

I just completed a new monster for 2k1..More to come..I'll keep you posted

Tseng 07-25-2003 01:16 AM

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Originally posted by GhettoChild
I just completed a new monster for 2k1..More to come..I'll keep you posted
Wrong forum - and it was unnecessary to revive this thread.


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