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RTelvecho 03-06-2003 11:13 PM

i was told stuckey didnt delete the level when he came on because it "atracted players"

Zurkiba 03-06-2003 11:35 PM

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Originally posted by Devil
The thing is, I spoke to Nemesis, he can't do anything about it because he can't find out who put it up.

-Brett

Doesn't matter... the server should be shut down.

It's the Manager's/Owner's RESPONSIBILITY to monitor his server. If there is porn on anything Graal related, it reflects on Graal. So it should be destroyed.

Or atleast auctioned off... sell it off to the highest payer.

RTelvecho 03-07-2003 12:36 AM

sell it to the highest player? auction it off? thats the stupidest thing u have said

CasanovaCanavi 03-07-2003 12:59 AM

There should be a team of playerworld Moderators... People who go on playerworlds and check them out.. Or is there something like that already? if there is, I didn't know.. :rolleyes:

alarid0 03-07-2003 01:12 AM

um... yah.... It's called PlayerWorld Administration(PWA).

They review upcoming PWs, and also review ones already up... or so they say.

It's funny how Renegade got tooken down for just advancing a little slow but yet there has been much greater problems on other servers...
Something needs to be balanced out.

Googi 03-07-2003 01:30 AM

Shut down the server.
Global ban the manager.
Global ban whoever put it up.

Brad 03-07-2003 01:44 AM

Brad is a nice guy.

tlf288 03-07-2003 01:47 AM

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Originally posted by Googi
Shut down the server.
Global ban the manager.
Global ban whoever put it up.

IP ban the manager and guy/girl who put it up.

davidpsy 03-07-2003 01:52 AM

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Originally posted by tlf288


IP ban the manager and guy/girl who put it up.

I say we dont ip ban the manager. its not his falt If one of his staff betrays him and uploads porn on his server. But he should get rid of it if he knows whats going on and fire the staff member who did it....

Milkdude99 03-07-2003 02:20 AM

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Originally posted by davidpsy

I say we dont ip ban the manager. its not his falt If one of his staff betrays him and uploads porn on his server. But he should get rid of it if he knows whats going on and fire the staff member who did it....

errr and who gave him/her the rights to access the server in this way ummmm ? Hiring idiots or irresponsible people as Staff and giving rights to them they have no business having is the DIRECT responsiblity of the Manager and HE/SHE is held accountible for ALL actions of his/her Staff on the server. It's called mismanagement and they need to take the blame and the fall for it as well. :(


Quote:

Originally posted by Googi
Shut down the server.
Global ban the manager.
Global ban whoever put it up.

I agree........

Brad 03-07-2003 02:22 AM

Well, it is MAINLY the manager's fault, but IF it was some type of hacker we have to cut him a little slack.

Zurkiba 03-07-2003 02:28 AM

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Originally posted by davidpsy

I say we dont ip ban the manager. its not his falt If one of his staff betrays him and uploads porn on his server. But he should get rid of it if he knows whats going on and fire the staff member who did it....

Yeah... and the Don of the Mafia never committed the crime... but he was still in charge of it.

And it is the manager's fault. I know that on X... logs were checked EVERY DAY. Then everything that was uploaded was checked. If you dont want to do that... then you dont deserve a server.

davidpsy 03-07-2003 03:02 AM

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Originally posted by Zurkiba

Yeah... and the Don of the Mafia never committed the crime... but he was still in charge of it.

And it is the manager's fault. I know that on X... logs were checked EVERY DAY. Then everything that was uploaded was checked. If you dont want to do that... then you dont deserve a server.

Lol ok if the Manager knew about it and it was his falt ban his ass.
But all I'm saying is if you have staff that you trust and then back stabs you and as soon as you find out you fix it and ban the staff members ass. Then I dont think the manager should be banned for fixing it.....

Kinatt 03-07-2003 03:11 AM

uhh how could he not know its there its right in the radio store.. like RIGHT when you walk in I know ive been going every day about 11pm

davidpsy 03-07-2003 03:20 AM

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Originally posted by Kinatt
uhh how could he not know its there its right in the radio store.. like RIGHT when you walk in I know ive been going every day about 11pm
What I'm saying is if the Manager finds out about it and fixes it and bans the staff that did it he shouldent be banned...

Dude6252000 03-07-2003 03:46 AM

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Originally posted by Brad
Well, it is MAINLY the manager's fault, but IF it was some type of hacker we have to cut him a little slack.
It's impossible to hack RCs, unless they have the exact same IP as the person they're hacking. That, or a person would strangely have the IP range of *.*.*.* or something extremely vague. O_o

PrinceDark 03-07-2003 03:49 AM

If the manager knew about it and didn't care to do something about it then the Manager should be fired and never be allowed to work on another playerworld, but if he doesn't know about it then it's not his fault. There are times where people will take a few days off to get away from things. It's not like they're on 24 hours a day and monitoring every single action that takes place.

Who are the managers of Cynical? Isn't it booj and RavenTelvecho?

mrpimp546 03-07-2003 04:53 AM

well BoOj was on Vaction so he could not get it gone to fast but i know for a fact it was not a staff member.All Cynical staff are Awsome trustworthy people.none would do somethinglike that.but i know that it was a hacker.i have 2 suspects that im pretty sure who did it but i will not say unless a admin asks.For the truth i think Cynical should not be shut down...yes it may be low on player count but withy up coming projects i will be giving BoOj it will go higher.Also Darlene who was that person who showed you all this stuff?

Dude6252000 03-07-2003 05:18 AM

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Originally posted by mrpimp546
well BoOj was on Vaction so he could not get it gone to fast but i know for a fact it was not a staff member.All Cynical staff are Awsome trustworthy people.none would do somethinglike that.but i know that it was a hacker.i have 2 suspects that im pretty sure who did it but i will not say unless a admin asks.For the truth i think Cynical should not be shut down...yes it may be low on player count but withy up coming projects i will be giving BoOj it will go higher.Also Darlene who was that person who showed you all this stuff?
Read my post. I don't like to be ignored.

Brad 03-07-2003 05:22 AM

Raven was fired.

RTelvecho 03-07-2003 05:32 AM

quit

Darlene159 03-07-2003 05:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by mrpimp546
well BoOj was on Vaction so he could not get it gone to fast but i know for a fact it was not a staff member.All Cynical staff are Awsome trustworthy people.none would do somethinglike that.but i know that it was a hacker.i have 2 suspects that im pretty sure who did it but i will not say unless a admin asks.For the truth i think Cynical should not be shut down...yes it may be low on player count but withy up coming projects i will be giving BoOj it will go higher.Also Darlene who was that person who showed you all this stuff?
I'm not going to say who the person is

JrTerrorist 03-07-2003 06:18 AM

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Originally posted by davidpsy

I say we dont ip ban the manager. its not his falt If one of his staff betrays him and uploads porn on his server. But he should get rid of it if he knows whats going on and fire the staff member who did it....

Its his fault for not knowing whats going on, he should be checking his server. o.O

I agree with what Googi said.
Shut down the server.
Global ban the manager.
Global ban whoever put it up.

Zurkiba 03-07-2003 06:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by mrpimp546
well BoOj was on Vaction so he could not get it gone to fast but i know for a fact it was not a staff member.All Cynical staff are Awsome trustworthy people.none would do somethinglike that.but i know that it was a hacker.i have 2 suspects that im pretty sure who did it but i will not say unless a admin asks.For the truth i think Cynical should not be shut down...yes it may be low on player count but withy up coming projects i will be giving BoOj it will go higher.Also Darlene who was that person who showed you all this stuff?
Excuse to save a server.

I dont think it's even possible to clientside hack the FTP anymore...

Secondly, the Radio is in clear site... Kinatt has been going for a while... I'm 100% that SOMEONE else found it and SOMEONE else reported it.

Saying that the RC was hacked was the manager's fault. It was the staffer's fault. Both should be banned.

RTelvecho 03-07-2003 07:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by mrpimp546
well BoOj was on Vaction so he could not get it gone to fast but i know for a fact it was not a staff member.All Cynical staff are Awsome trustworthy people.none would do somethinglike that.but i know that it was a hacker.i have 2 suspects that im pretty sure who did it but i will not say unless a admin asks.For the truth i think Cynical should not be shut down...yes it may be low on player count but withy up coming projects i will be giving BoOj it will go higher.Also Darlene who was that person who showed you all this stuff?
there are lots of other staff members with graphic folder rights and some with levels

davidpsy 03-07-2003 07:11 AM

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Originally posted by RTelvecho
there are lots of other staff members with graphic folder rights and some with levels
Lol I got nothing to worry about only 3 people on sans including me will have level rights and only a few more will have grapihc rights...

melissa1988 03-07-2003 08:55 AM

Cynical sucked anyway...good riddance

Devil 03-07-2003 01:06 PM

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Originally posted by RTelvecho
there are lots of other staff members with graphic folder rights and some with levels
Why the hell did you even start a playerworld project, I hate people like you, start a playerworld project, get it put up, then pass it off or get it shutdown, stupid, stupid, stupid.

-Brett

mrpimp546 03-07-2003 03:28 PM

The hacker did not hack an rc x.x it was a trainer they made and im pretty sure who it was and no i was not ignoring you.:)

mrpimp546 03-07-2003 03:32 PM

Darlene why not say he won't get in trouble.:) or was it someone chating now?

Devil 03-07-2003 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mrpimp546
The hacker did not hack an rc x.x it was a trainer they made and im pretty sure who it was and no i was not ignoring you.:)
A hacker? Don't make me laugh, and there are no such thing as trainers made to put up porn, unless you're talking about gt201 or whatever the program you can use to change gifs and so on, I think that's impossible now anyway, so if you think you know who it is, why don't you care to inform us.

-Brett

Darlene159 03-07-2003 03:53 PM

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Originally posted by mrpimp546
Darlene why not say he won't get in trouble.:) or was it someone chating now?
Why does it matter who showed me where the radio shop is, and the other place...I wont say because this person seemed like a decent person trying to help me, and I dont want people jumping all over him....lol, I dont even remember who it was now anyway because it doesnt matter...all he did was show me what I asked him to show me, plus tell me that someone said not to let people in the radio shop because alot of the players were kids.

It was done with a traner? I seriously doubt that.
Personally I am PO'ed that this server is still up right now

Devil 03-07-2003 04:03 PM

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Originally posted by Darlene159


Why does it matter who showed me where the radio shop is, and the other place...I wont say because this person seemed like a decent person trying to help me, and I dont want people jumping all over him....lol, I dont even remember who it was now anyway because it doesnt matter...all he did was show me what I asked him to show me, plus tell me that someone said not to let people in the radio shop because alot of the players were kids.

It was done with a traner? I seriously doubt that.
Personally I am PO'ed that this server is still up right now

I say clear out the staff and appoint a new manager rather than taking it down, the server has some potential, the current managers dont if they're hiring idiots like the person who put that up.

-Brett

melissa1988 03-07-2003 04:33 PM

nah get rid of the server...it sucks anyway

Devil 03-07-2003 05:46 PM

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Originally posted by melissa1988
nah get rid of the server...it sucks anyway
We have to get rid of it because it sucks? I agree, but then again we'd have to remove most of the servers.

-Brett

Zurkiba 03-07-2003 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mrpimp546
The hacker did not hack an rc x.x it was a trainer they made and im pretty sure who it was and no i was not ignoring you.:)
I M P O S S I B L E
You cant use clientside trainers now because we have anti-hacker technology and the wonderful little device called an NPC Server.

Quote:

Originally posted by Devil


I say clear out the staff and appoint a new manager rather than taking it down, the server has some potential, the current managers dont if they're hiring idiots like the person who put that up.

-Brett

It's the manager's server... you cant imagien the troubles in the future if the server still stands. We dont know who did it... we're going for a couple of people... but for all we know. The whole server could be involved in it.

Someone said it was a small server. If you remove the staff then the players will drop ATLEAST half. So it'll be a ruined server anyway.

Removal is the only way to fix this problem.

adam 03-07-2003 09:45 PM

There is also cussing in the owners house.

melissa1988 03-07-2003 10:14 PM

I wasn't saying get rid of it because it sucks. It DOES suck, but that's not why it should be taken down. It violated the EULA and code of conduct, so it needs to go.

SingleChance 03-07-2003 10:22 PM

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Originally posted by melissa1988
I wasn't saying get rid of it because it sucks. It DOES suck, but that's not why it should be taken down. It violated the EULA and code of conduct, so it needs to go.
I don't think it should be taken down.
Something needs to be done about the staff member that put it up but the server shouldn't be taken down...
UN wasn't taken down when they had gif's of condom machines on it....so i don't see how this is any different.

(then again i didn't see the picture on cynical so i don't know how bad it is)

Brad 03-07-2003 10:30 PM

Well, considering this was my 'find' as you want to call it here's my recomendation. Nemesis or whoever the hell is left in PWA, make a complete review of Cynical's staff as well as the overall quality of the server. If the evaluation is un-successful then my opinion is to shut it down.


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