I say we just go with the idea that kingdoms discovered islands in the southern sea (forget name) and then decide to colonize after the Bomies get a bit reckless... =/

Ok look if everyone plays as if it was just discovered everyone's rp history will end up like "my parents were beaten to death by wild apes, I jumped onto a raft and fell asleep I woke up several weeks later abnd found myself in this land and suprisingly my parents were also here and the apes had really just beat up someone else's parents even though everyone I knew had someone got here" I think this should be completely seperate from 2k1 to an extent. I mean it shouldnt have to be connected, Red Alert was in no way connected to the origional Command and Conquer. 2k2 should not need to be connected to 2k1 and I volunteer to be this RP history council thingie.

The Zal left the planet seeing how the evil bomys are causing chaos among the world, make sense I seem

Actually, the Zalactic Technologies and crap are still hidden around the world. The only stuff found so far is the one on mt. Antora on the main contenent. The rest has yet to be found....

Yves:

You made me think I posted something :mad:!
I don't think Zalactic Technology fits graal at all. Especially 2k2. 2k2 is almost all medievil.

1. Lets get rid of the Go-Karts beacause there was no Go-Karts back then.

2. Get rid of hockey and soccer field because those games did not exist in the middle ages.

3. The heaven with Zalactic labs because we are in the middle ages

4. Why the heaven do we have rings and amulets that do harm instead of good at stores?? That is stupid.

5. Delete all things that do not belong in the middle ages.

6. Make the land a little less bumpy because the ground is like way to bumpy.

7. Isnt the barbarian really a warrior? What the heavens is up with that?

Or we can all come to this conclusion:

Having a consistent RP story for the islands will not be entirely practical. Everyone, just like story tellers, will have heir own unique twist to it, as they did throughout history. As long as we go along the basic guidelines such as this.

-2k2 is NOT 2k1
-How were the islands colonized/discovered?
-How bomys play their role

People should be able to bring in their own gods and come from their own special areas, whethjer they be national or international, but you can't expect them to play a major role in everything.

And as for Kawaii, she's going to be Princess, we talked it over, and I think she can get a chance there. I mean, she says she is going to be very active.. so I'll give her a chance. Plus I felt kind of bad just throwing her overboard, so to speak.

Even if the elite types decide to for some reason agree that 2k2 is not set in the same absolute location as 2k1, the noobs will take their first look at g2k2 main island (after already having seen 2k1 most likely) and say "Hey, that's Silverstun's Sea, the Bomy Moon, the Survivor Island, and so that must be Mt. Antora!"

To be perfectly honest, I am deadset against the creation of personal gods and goddesses. We already have a set of deities that cover just about every temperment, why go and create confusion by having every person belong to their own religion?

As for the history, I think it should include only a brief history of however civilization arose on the main island, and the seperation of these peoples into the five kingdoms. The easiest and best way to handle the five islands is to describe how each kingdom branched off and claimed one of the islands for themselves. As for bomies, they're a little harder --- there's matters of motive, sentience, and origin to clear up, but I'm sure Er1c and other 2k1 developers could be of assistance.

Alright, I've said that I think the history thing is a great idea. Let's be realistic though: there is NO way to enforce RPing by the history. I think we-the-players should work out the history as a suggested guideline for enthusiastic RPers to follow. And the players who really are serious about RP are 1) going to want to contribute to the history, which is good, and 2) are likely to follow it (more or less) so they can interact better with the other serious RPers, right?
How about, instead of a chat (I can do that too if you like), we get a forum for it? Unless/until there is an official forum for it, I offer this one:
http://clix.to/2k2rp

Don't be foolish, of course a history can be enforced. Kingdom leaders almost never allow new members into the kindgom without having seen their roleplaying story --- any character stories contradicting the history would be turned away until properly revised. As far as kingdom RPs go, it's easy enough to admonish rulebreakers and correct their mistakes. We have a small enough roleplaying community for a few high-ranking roleplayers to quietly enforce the rules.

Besides, most roleplayers learned enough from 2k1 to be able to follow a few simple guidelines. Only newer kingdom members would be a problem, and they're taught quickly enough. It would require most of the kingdom leaders' cooperation, but it could be easily done, if people are willing.

And here the thread dies before we reach any kind of consensus. Nobody seems against the idea, but nobody's jumping at the chance to help with it, either.

I'd personally like to organize some kind of chat to reach a general agreement on the basic story.

Don't call me foolish :) -- Ok, I hadn't thought of that. You're right, that would work if the Kings all agree to it.

I've got just sort of a rough draft of a vague idea of a brainstorm up... go to http://clix.to/2k2rp to read it. Don't be too hard on me, it's just a place to start and by the time we're done, probably almost nothing that I've written will still be in the "history"... :rolleyes:

Just look at it, propose changes, let's get this thing moving. :D

<3

I had completely forgotten about the seperation of the gods and goddesses. Definitely something to go from, and I'm glad there's at least one person interested in getting this off the ground.

Aestus, have you thought mabey there's a reason no one is offering to help you? If stefan or Uni wanted to make a story for 2k2, they'd chime in. Sure, the players have a right to make their own minds up, but let's not forget that so far...you've had MINIMAL postitive and negative input. Thus, no one really cares about a central history. Besides, such uniformity is overtly oppresive. Lighten up ;)

Have you seen one post in this entire thread saying the idea was a bad one? Stefan and unixmad are hardly experienced roleplayers --- I wouldn't expect them to be able to craft a history like the one described. There's been plenty of people stating that they thought the idea was a good one, and that it should be made. It's only unfortunate that no one wants to spend their own time on the project.

Maybe you're just biased against the project because it was created with the intent to keep people from making their character like your's? God forbid you would have to create a character who (gasp!) wasn't immortal.

I try. :D

Aestus, pleas stop being so single-minded. I oppose it because I oppose such strict regulations. Oh, and Gryffon is/never was an immortal. Also, I beleive it was you who, during the Kamuii Revolution, told me not to be so melodramatic. I think you should take your own advice. [sarcasm] Don't make me pull rank :p Joking [/sarcasm]

Right, you weren't immortal, you could just live for thousands of years, could kill the most powerful mages in the world when you were a child, created an entire race of demons, an underworld, and an entire continent nobody else had seemed to know about till then, not to mention inventing what would have been some pretty ****ing major events in history, no?

These are the kind of characters that need to be prevented, if we are to have any kind of serious roleplaying environment in 2k2. Find me one real roleplaying game without a roleplaying background and a set of guidelines, and I'll show you Graal.

To me, I find this stupid and pointless... the only reason I bothered to read this was it had 4 pages x.X
---Shifter

Then you're obviously not a roleplayer.

*rolls* You think I have time for meaningless things? Dude, come on. I script. I think I'm good at scripting, that is my thing. I hardly ever PLAY Graal unless I'm interacting or testing my NPC's. Sometimes to see new NPC's of servers, but that is about it. I've lost some interest in Graal, and have devoted my time to being the best scripter I can be.
---Shifter

So why are you even in this thread?

I find your post stupid and pointless... the only reason I bothered to read it was because it was on a thread that some people (including myself) are actually interested in.

Dude, if RPing doesn't interest you, ok, more power to you. But don't go razzing people who find RP fun.