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Graal518 07-03-2002 08:22 AM

No offense or anything Ex, but I think you should just stay out of it. Unless you can convince Stefan to 100% put Mithica back up, you should just stay in 2k1 and make your little levels. We don't want just 'another Mithica'. We, especially I, want to see Kerin come back, as well as his OW, k?
-Wind Seablaze

Logo 07-03-2002 09:23 AM

I want to see Excalibur's head exploded.

Graal518 07-03-2002 09:59 AM

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Originally posted by Logo
I want to see Excalibur's head exploded.
Boom. o_O;
-Wind

Graal518 07-03-2002 10:43 AM

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Originally posted by Tohz


Ok, please do remember that,

Anyway, I just spoke to Excal on AIM.

asmodeus brett: Excal I need to ask you something...
zellheh: what....
asmodeus brett: With Mithica
zellheh: no
asmodeus brett: well quite a few people want it back, but we need your permission....
asmodeus brett: it's not the players fault that you decided to give up on Mithica just for your 2k1 job, you could have handed over ownership
zellheh: I didn't give it up for the job, I could manage the both. Its just that the staff gave up pn me. There were only a few that worked, rest I hired, quit, stole from me and my other staff, or just sat around and did nothing
asmodeus brett: That sucks, you could have atleast tried harder to find better staff..
asmodeus brett: Well would you care...if we had someone bring it back?

zellheh: Yes Very much, I had the request from someone the former owner, to keep it shut down...
zellheh: I'll not change my mind
asmodeus brett: :/
asmodeus brett: Kerin? Gabiani
zellheh: he washed not to be known, he called me
zellheh: *wished

Haha, yeah, it was Gabiani. Those two talk to each other on the phone. Ex, Gab shouldn't really have a say in wether or not it stays. Gab wasn't a good owner, and he was owner for about the same amount of time that Cyn or Lone was, and well, why should GAB of all people have a word in Mithica's fate? Kerin is the person to ask, although if you even try to PM him... heh, it would get quite messy...
-Wind Seablaze

zell12 07-03-2002 10:49 AM

did I say it was Gabiani? No, he is too busy to call me, besides, you just ruined your chances of getting mithica back.

Graal518 07-03-2002 10:52 AM

We'll see...
-Wind

Graal518 07-03-2002 12:17 PM

Honestly, Excalibur. You should stick with Graal 2001 and at least let Kerin have a go at it again. Besides, if Mithica was up, there wouldn't be much you'd do with it with your obligations to Graal 2001.

-The Cyn

zell12 07-03-2002 10:29 PM

Shutting down Mithica had nothing to do with Graal2001, I never had a job with them when I worked at Mithica.

WHIPENIE4 07-03-2002 11:18 PM

You guys are fu**ing *****s, you know nothing of what happened, Wind you whinned about everything if it wasn't you're way you'd start *****ing and crying. And what's this about staff not being involved or something, we let you guys have a say in everything I asked ton's of staff over aim for advice if they liked so and so and got good feed back and opinions. YOU never gave much thought into anything it was either "We need to get Old Mithica back up this New Mithica is going to suck no matter what we do". I think the New Mithica would have been much better had we have gotten rid of staff like you. You never tried to help or see what you could do, we posted the new story parts of the new tileset everything on RC we where chatting about what to add and if we weren't on RC most people I would talk to over aim.

Excalibur WAS on RC maybe not as much as some of the people but he was on and when he wasn't he was always on AIM or MSN you could have contacted him at any time, I would talk to excalibur about Mithica at LEAST 1-3 times a day.

I didn't fully agree with Mithica being shut down but I can tell you its not Excalibur's fault.

Out of the staff there was only a couple would actually work which I could easily name.

So shut up with you're *****ing.

GraalBR 07-03-2002 11:27 PM

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Originally posted by WHIPENIE4
You guys are fu**ing *****s, you know nothing of what happened, Wind you whinned about everything if it wasn't you're way you'd start *****ing and crying. And what's this about staff not being involved or something, we let you guys have a say in everything I asked ton's of staff over aim for advice if they liked so and so and got good feed back and opinions. YOU never gave much thought into anything it was either "We need to get Old Mithica back up this New Mithica is going to suck no matter what we do". I think the New Mithica would have been much better had we have gotten rid of staff like you. You never tried to help or see what you could do, we posted the new story parts of the new tileset everything on RC we where chatting about what to add and if we weren't on RC most people I would talk to over aim.

Excalibur WAS on RC maybe not as much as some of the people but he was on and when he wasn't he was always on AIM or MSN you could have contacted him at any time, I would talk to excalibur about Mithica at LEAST 1-3 times a day.

I didn't fully agree with Mithica being shut down but I can tell you its not Excalibur's fault.

Out of the staff there was only a couple would actually work which I could easily name.

So shut up with you're *****ing.

Misfit ur cool but ALL The staff or former staff feel this way.
Maybe you just didnt notice it :-\.

Also I worked :D

WHIPENIE4 07-03-2002 11:38 PM

I Noticed it that the staff want Mithica back, but blamming and flameing Excalibur and saying its all his fault I don't agree with.

And saying that he didn't let you guys have opinions on stuff and he was never on RC and saying all the other bs I don't agree with.

And yes you did work.

Graal518 07-04-2002 12:03 AM

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Originally posted by WHIPENIE4
You guys are fu**ing *****s, you know nothing of what happened, Wind you whinned about everything if it wasn't you're way you'd start *****ing and crying. And what's this about staff not being involved or something, we let you guys have a say in everything I asked ton's of staff over aim for advice if they liked so and so and got good feed back and opinions. YOU never gave much thought into anything it was either "We need to get Old Mithica back up this New Mithica is going to suck no matter what we do". I think the New Mithica would have been much better had we have gotten rid of staff like you. You never tried to help or see what you could do, we posted the new story parts of the new tileset everything on RC we where chatting about what to add and if we weren't on RC most people I would talk to over aim.

Excalibur WAS on RC maybe not as much as some of the people but he was on and when he wasn't he was always on AIM or MSN you could have contacted him at any time, I would talk to excalibur about Mithica at LEAST 1-3 times a day.

I didn't fully agree with Mithica being shut down but I can tell you its not Excalibur's fault.

Out of the staff there was only a couple would actually work which I could easily name.

So shut up with you're *****ing.

Oh shaddup Misfit. I never even seen you play Mithica until you were hired as Co by Ex. True, I hated the idea of the New Mithica, that's because Kerin and the Old Mithica back would have meant much better things. True, the New Mithica would have been better, but that's because you would have had all those flashy lights and spiffy scripts. That's not what playerworlds are all about. There was nothing too special about the Old Mithica, but there WAS many more players. Even before the whole p2p thing.
And no, i'm not gonna quit b*tching about it, so you might as well just goto the Main Forums or something.
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I didn't fully agree with Mithica being shut down but I can tell you its not Excalibur's fault.
What. The. Hell.
Yeah, it is his fault. He's the one who complained to Stefan and shut it down. He didn't have to waste a server that's been around longer than most of us. It sounded to me more like a "It's mine or it's no one's" scenario to me.

I WOULD have worked, provided that Ex would have actually GIVEN ME SOMETHING TO DO. But noooo, 'Don't want my precious server that I got Gabiani to fire Kerin for, to have it's OMG SUPER LEVELS AND NPCS AND PLOTS LEAKED OUT'. That was the only attitude I ever got. Oh, and if you don't believe that everyone but your Co-Owners hated the crap out of you Ex, I can PM you a nice long list of names. ;)
-Wind Seablaze

WHIPENIE4 07-04-2002 12:19 AM

-_- Yes he shut it down, so I guess I was sort of wrong saying it wasn't his fault so let me rephrase it.

Excalibur shut it down, yes. But its not like he wanted to shut it down he told me a couple days before that he was thinking about shutting it down because the staff wasn't helping out much and that it was getting stressfull etc..., He decided to wait and we tried to continue it but it the end it was getting hard on everybody. So he shut it down.

So its not like he didn't try.


Now on other note, you never seen me play on Mithica under the name !MISFIT, but I played on Mithica as other names I would change my name a lot until I finally found one that I liked, which is now !Misfit.

I might not have played it as much as you but I still played it.

Even if I didn't though I don't think it would change anything, I'm good at what I was hired to do for Mithica and I did it because I don't have 500hours on Mith doesn't mean im not capable of working.

You just said it your self New Mithica would have been better, so wouldn't that mean that we WOULD get more players.... and if we didn't at least we tried.

And last, I don't post much on the Main forums, infact I usually only post in Graphics, Pw or sometimes NGR :)

Still stop you're *****ing or if you're not then continue but do it without all the flameing excalibur and what not, you know as well as me that New Mithica wouldn't have been bad like you but it off to be.

Graal518 07-04-2002 12:33 AM

I'm not Flaming Ex anymore. Right now i'm only concerned about getting Old Mithica back. ;)
-Wind

zell12 07-04-2002 02:40 AM

I could say alot right now, but Misfir said most of it for me. But there are a few minor things, I have to stress. Wind, I never seen you play Mithica alot before you contacted me on aim saying you wanted to be LAT, when I was LAT Captain. I talked to Cyn and you were hired. THEN you started playing. You always played Graal2001 in Dustari. Now, lets see, what else.... Oh, Thats right Misfit, I did contact you ahead of time telling you what was going on and how I was feeling about shutting down Mithica. Really, I didn't want to, but after 3-4 days, I had enough of you *****ing and acting childish with the "Windish Talk", I had enough of people that I knew that could do better then they were, doing nothing, like Ferret, Cyrix, and a few others. I not once told Stefan to shutdown Mithica, I talked it over with Nemesis as well as Misfit. Also with some of the other Managers and CoManagers on the Private Fourms. So don't go saying that.
Misfit and Pyro both worked their asses off for Mithica, for me, for everyone. Yes, its a big leap from Events Admin to CoOwner, but it was nesary because we never saw what he could really do. Misfit is a great Graphics Artist, and he was also a very good friend. We had all the idea's set and in place long before I wanted to make Mithica Mideval. We shared the idea's, we left them in Staff Folder for ever to comment and read, we told everyone on PW Forums MOST of our storyline and idea's. So Wind, you want to still complain and say its my fault and say I never gave you nothing to do? Go ahead. (I gave you something to do, get on more, and WAIT until the basic scripts and tile set were done so we can start generating the OW, adding the towns, etc... If you had a problem like you wanted mabey 1 tileset, that would of been FINE, but you never talked to me about it).

Graal518 07-04-2002 02:42 AM

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Originally posted by zell12
I could say alot right now, but Misfir said most of it for me. But there are a few minor things, I have to stress. Wind, I never seen you play Mithica alot before you contacted me on aim saying you wanted to be LAT, when I was LAT Captain. I talked to Cyn and you were hired. THEN you started playing. You always played Graal2001 in Dustari. Now, lets see, what else.... Oh, Thats right Misfit, I did contact you ahead of time telling you what was going on and how I was feeling about shutting down Mithica. Really, I didn't want to, but after 3-4 days, I had enough of you *****ing and acting childish with the "Windish Talk", I had enough of people that I knew that could do better then they were, doing nothing, like Ferret, Cyrix, and a few others. I not once told Stefan to shutdown Mithica, I talked it over with Nemesis as well as Misfit. Also with some of the other Managers and CoManagers on the Private Fourms. So don't go saying that.
Misfit and Pyro both worked their asses off for Mithica, for me, for everyone. Yes, its a big leap from Events Admin to CoOwner, but it was nesary because we never saw what he could really do. Misfit is a great Graphics Artist, and he was also a very good friend. We had all the idea's set and in place long before I wanted to make Mithica Mideval. We shared the idea's, we left them in Staff Folder for ever to comment and read, we told everyone on PW Forums MOST of our storyline and idea's. So Wind, you want to still complain and say its my fault and say I never gave you nothing to do? Go ahead. (I gave you something to do, get on more, and WAIT until the basic scripts and tile set were done so we can start generating the OW, adding the towns, etc... If you had a problem like you wanted mabey 1 tileset, that would of been FINE, but you never talked to me about it).

k
-Wind

Graal518 07-04-2002 02:44 AM

All in all, we could have done more. (Myself included.) "New Mithica" may have very well been a nice playerworld. But sadly, it would lack that "Mithica" feel. That's the ropes, I'm afraid. =/

-The Cyn

Graal518 07-04-2002 02:46 AM

Ex, I was on alot. A hell of alot. The only reason I wasn't on for that two-three weeks or so was because
1. I moved back down to Florida... again.
2. I had no internet acces because my parents "Wanted to get situated first'
So YOU don't complain to me about never being on.
-Wind

zell12 07-04-2002 02:50 AM

you were still hardly on before that, and when you were on, you were immature and never gave a damn, just complained and talked this "windish lanuage".
And Cyn, New Mithica is just as much of a part of Mithica as the Older Version is. Same Name, just diffrent levels. Nothing can bring back old Mithica unless ALL the old staff/players that were there, came back.

Graal518 07-04-2002 03:01 AM

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Originally posted by zell12
you were still hardly on before that, and when you were on, you were immature and never gave a damn, just complained and talked this "windish lanuage".
And Cyn, New Mithica is just as much of a part of Mithica as the Older Version is. Same Name, just diffrent levels. Nothing can bring back old Mithica unless ALL the old staff/players that were there, came back.

I know most of them that would. A few would even upgrade, too.

GraalBR 07-04-2002 03:24 AM

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Originally posted by zell12
I could say alot right now, but Misfir said most of it for me. But there are a few minor things, I have to stress. Wind, I never seen you play Mithica alot before you contacted me on aim saying you wanted to be LAT, when I was LAT Captain. I talked to Cyn and you were hired. THEN you started playing. You always played Graal2001 in Dustari. Now, lets see, what else.... Oh, Thats right Misfit, I did contact you ahead of time telling you what was going on and how I was feeling about shutting down Mithica. Really, I didn't want to, but after 3-4 days, I had enough of you *****ing and acting childish with the "Windish Talk", I had enough of people that I knew that could do better then they were, doing nothing, like Ferret, Cyrix, and a few others. I not once told Stefan to shutdown Mithica, I talked it over with Nemesis as well as Misfit. Also with some of the other Managers and CoManagers on the Private Fourms. So don't go saying that.
Misfit and Pyro both worked their asses off for Mithica, for me, for everyone. Yes, its a big leap from Events Admin to CoOwner, but it was nesary because we never saw what he could really do. Misfit is a great Graphics Artist, and he was also a very good friend. We had all the idea's set and in place long before I wanted to make Mithica Mideval. We shared the idea's, we left them in Staff Folder for ever to comment and read, we told everyone on PW Forums MOST of our storyline and idea's. So Wind, you want to still complain and say its my fault and say I never gave you nothing to do? Go ahead. (I gave you something to do, get on more, and WAIT until the basic scripts and tile set were done so we can start generating the OW, adding the towns, etc... If you had a problem like you wanted mabey 1 tileset, that would of been FINE, but you never talked to me about it).

Ex sorry but YOU also spoke "Windish"

zell12 07-04-2002 03:27 AM

Yes, I went "LIEK OMI!" once

GraalBR 07-04-2002 03:28 AM

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Originally posted by zell12
Yes, I went "LIEK OMI!" once
:megaeek: Ur Joking Right you were quite the "Wind-Ish" Speaker

zell12 07-04-2002 03:31 AM

I came on once day, Wind was talking like that, I go "LIEK OMI!" and then he goes, nice, or something like that.

GraalBR 07-04-2002 03:33 AM

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Originally posted by zell12
I came on once day, Wind was talking like that, I go "LIEK OMI!" and then he goes, nice, or something like that.
When Cyn or someone had New RC: as their name and came on pretending to be Stefan you said.
"LIEK OMG TIS STEFAN" and So on

Graal518 07-04-2002 03:36 AM

Hey, I had to do what I had to do to prevent the other staff from burning out with too much serious-ness. Come on Ex, you can't deny that it's a cool language and it brings joy to the people who use it. =(
-Wind Seablaze

GraalBR 07-04-2002 03:40 AM

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Originally posted by Graal518
Hey, I had to do what I had to do to prevent the other staff from burning out with too much serious-ness. Come on Ex, you can't deny that it's a cool language and it brings joy to the people who use it. =(
-Wind Seablaze

LIEK OMG TAHTS LEET ADN KEWEL

WHIPENIE4 07-04-2002 03:40 AM

Bad Religion, I don't know what you're trying to do or prove, but everybody talked liked that at some point just because he said "OMG STEFAN" doesn't mean he did it all the time. Excalibur was more serious then goofy/not working person.

GraalBR 07-04-2002 03:43 AM

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Originally posted by WHIPENIE4
Bad Religion, I don't know what you're trying to do or prove, but everybody talked liked that at some point just because he said "OMG STEFAN" doesn't mean he did it all the time. Excalibur was more serious then goofy/not working person.
You wernt on in the Convos Misfit,
I can remember being Suprised when Ex started talking Wind-ish as he slagged it off.
But i didnt want to say anything because he mighta fired me.

Graal518 07-04-2002 03:45 AM

And you can't say I didn't work because I did. I was Head Admin, and I did my admining duties. I made sure the staff were in order during goofy times, the only problem was that nothing much really happened, so there wasn't alot to do. Oh, and yes, Ex, I DID do what you told me my job was. I recall you saying I was supposed to "Ask players if they needed help, and nothing more".
-Wind

zell12 07-04-2002 03:48 AM

Why would I want you to ask the players if they wanted something? There was no players because we were "planning" to go private. But Nemesis made a new rule, and I was asking for people to make the OSL and Events Building

GraalBR 07-04-2002 03:48 AM

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Originally posted by Graal518
And you can't say I didn't work because I did. I was Head Admin, and I did my admining duties. I made sure the staff were in order during goofy times, the only problem was that nothing much really happened, so there wasn't alot to do. Oh, and yes, Ex, I DID do what you told me my job was. I recall you saying I was supposed to "Ask players if they needed help, and nothing more".
-Wind

true true


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