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Bird2prey 03-16-2002 03:39 PM

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Originally posted by Kaimetsu


But of course. All I say is that you stole the name.

I am a thief. :(

Mman 03-17-2002 09:08 AM

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Originally posted by Kaimetsu
I think my principles forbid me from making a game named "Football" when it is not actually football in reality, but rather an American interpretation thereof.
Hey american football kicks assm unlike that wimpy crap you call football, you actually have to have more skill than knowing how to run

Mman 03-17-2002 09:11 AM

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Originally posted by Googi


Don't you have any respect for those SSJ329827983 GOKU {LOOKING FOR A GF} people?

If anyone has "looking for GF" at the end of their name, this is what it translates into:

"I'm a desperate loser who scares off every girl I talk to and anyone with a girl's head would be OK"

Bird2prey 03-17-2002 09:12 AM

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Originally posted by Mman


Hey american football kicks assm unlike that wimpy crap you call football, you actually have to have more skill than knowing how to run

Even if that were true, the credit would go to Australia as we are the original inventors of the game. So 'Pfft' to you.

Zelgadis_Geywords 03-17-2002 09:20 AM

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Originally posted by Mman


Hey american football kicks assm unlike that wimpy crap you call football, you actually have to have more skill than knowing how to run

I don't know about you, but I find nothing entertaining about a field of big men throwing around an elongated ball, made of "pigskin" in a stadium with astroturf.

Mman 03-17-2002 09:23 AM

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Originally posted by Kaimetsu


Me neither, to tell the truth. I think most sports are more mindless and tedious than almost any other form of entertainment. I'd watch a thousand episodes of DBZ or WWF events before I'd watch one football match.

Playing football is fun, watching it sucks. I'm an offensive lineman for my school's football team , and I can't stand to even watch my own team's games.

Zelgadis_Geywords 03-17-2002 09:26 AM

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Originally posted by Mman


Playing football is fun, watching it sucks. I'm an offensive lineman for my school's football team , and I can't stand to even watch my own team's games.

Ah. I wouldn't know either way. I'm not too big on sports. But I'll take your word for it. :)

Mman 03-17-2002 09:38 AM

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Originally posted by Bird2prey


Even if that were true, the credit would go to Australia as we are the original inventors of the game. So 'Pfft' to you.

I was comparing american football to english football.

I don't know what the hell australian football is, until I read this thread I didn't even know Australia HAD a sport they call football

Bird2prey 03-17-2002 09:42 AM

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Originally posted by Zelgadis_Geywords


I don't know about you, but I find nothing entertaining about a field of big men throwing around an elongated ball, made of "pigskin" in a stadium with astroturf.

Yep, footballs sucks.

Mman 03-17-2002 09:43 AM

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Originally posted by Zelgadis_Geywords


I don't know about you, but I find nothing entertaining about a field of big men throwing around an elongated ball, made of "pigskin" in a stadium with astroturf.


It's not fun being one of the guys throwing the ball, it's fun being the lineman that slams into a guy in front of him and starts a shoving match. It's the one sport where you can beat somebody up and not get in trouble for it.

Bird2prey 03-17-2002 09:46 AM

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Originally posted by Mman


I was comparing american football to english football.

I don't know what the hell australian football is, until I read this thread I didn't even know Australia HAD a sport they call football

Well, we do, the sport you stole from us.

Kaimetsu 03-17-2002 09:47 AM

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Originally posted by Mman


Hey american football kicks assm unlike that wimpy crap you call football, you actually have to have more skill than knowing how to run

Pff, sure, nice statement considering that pretty much the aim of American football is to run across a line with the ball. Where the English use skill and finesse to get the ball around an opposing player, Americans just grab it and try to ram through them. There's a reason why American football is only enjoyed by Americans: No other nation is obligated by ownership to pretend to like it.

Spunky2000ca 03-17-2002 09:49 AM

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Originally posted by Kaimetsu


Pff, sure, nice statement considering that pretty much the aim of American football is to run across a line with the ball. Where the English use skill and finesse to get the ball around an opposing player, Americans just grab it and try to ram through them. There's a reason why American football is only enjoyed by Americans: No other nation is obligated by ownership to pretend to like it.

Finally, someone else with views of American football that are the same as my own.

toad1413 03-17-2002 10:45 AM

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Originally posted by Kaimetsu


Pff, sure, nice statement considering that pretty much the aim of American football is to run across a line with the ball. Where the English use skill and finesse to get the ball around an opposing player, Americans just grab it and try to ram through them. There's a reason why American football is only enjoyed by Americans: No other nation is obligated by ownership to pretend to like it.

The ONLY two sports I actually like are Soccer (English football :p), and Hockey. Because you do need a degree of skill to play them, and Hockey's fun because I always lunge for the ball and land on the ground. :D

Falcor 03-17-2002 11:01 AM

Lets find some more stupid arguments...

Standard and Metric

Fahernhieght and Celceus

Cricket and Bowling

Curling and Shuffleboard

etc etc.

Kaimetsu 03-17-2002 11:13 AM

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Originally posted by Falcor
Standard and Metric
Y'know the funny thing there? All you people call Imperial units "English units" when in actual fact the English dared to embrace the far superior metric system long ago while far more of you people languish in the insanity of yards and inches.

Googi 03-17-2002 11:19 AM

Umm...

Swimming rox.

Falcor 03-17-2002 11:34 AM

Uhm my point beingm why are we arguing about things that will never change?

toad1413 03-17-2002 11:37 AM

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Originally posted by Falcor
Cricket and Bowling
...

Cricket and Bowling are two completly different things! That's like comapring school with sleeping!

feivel 03-17-2002 01:46 PM

No...
because for many many many people,
school and sleeping ARE the same thing.

Anyway I like soccer kinda, Hockey, Baseball, and American footbal.

BTW I dont know about Australian football,
but the rabbi at my orthodox synagogue is australian,
and his brother owns an Australian football team,
and they were in the champiosnhip,
and the championship was on sabbath,
so he wasnt allowed to make any profit off the championship game lol.

Mman 03-17-2002 02:09 PM

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Originally posted by Kaimetsu


Pff, sure, nice statement considering that pretty much the aim of American football is to run across a line with the ball. Where the English use skill and finesse to get the ball around an opposing player, Americans just grab it and try to ram through them. There's a reason why American football is only enjoyed by Americans: No other nation is obligated by ownership to pretend to like it.

Too damn many people overlook the linemen and the practice they must do. It's not simply ramming people. You have to be at the right place at the right time to block the defence and clear a path for your QB. Not all plays do linemen just ram a person, some may require them to take a 90 degree turn, move back in a U shape, or even step back. If you never played American football you have no business insulting it. Training is much more rigorous.
When I get out of the stance and block someone, it takes the same "skill and finesse" to exert as much of their momentum as humanly possible into driving their opponent back and to get as much control to stop him from resisting or from driving you back.
It's like a circus act, it looks easy, but it takes a lot of practice, and that's why I play it, I like the challenge of playing a sport where I do not just have to increase agility to be better, I have to practice the plays and lift weights.

Kaimetsu 03-17-2002 03:59 PM

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Originally posted by Mman

Not all plays do linemen just ram a person, some may require them to take a 90 degree turn, move back in a U shape, or even step back.

That sounds about as complicated as walking down a street.

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If you never played American football you have no business insulting it. Training is much more rigorous.
Inherently? Don't make stupid statements; the training is as rigorous as the players want to make it, regardless of the sport.

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When I get out of the stance and block someone, it takes the same "skill and finesse" to exert as much of their momentum as humanly possible into driving their opponent back and to get as much control to stop him from resisting or from driving you back.
Mm-hmm. I very much doubt it. Throwing yourself into a person doesn't require skill, only weight and muscle.

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It's like a circus act, it looks easy, but it takes a lot of practice, and that's why I play it, I like the challenge of playing a sport where I do not just have to increase agility to be better, I have to practice the plays and lift weights.
And yet increasing bulk isn't the same thing as increasing skill. You can beef yourself up as much as you like even if you're completely untalented, but the ability to actually control a ball like good footballers do? That's something you have to be born with. The fine precision exhibited in English football does indeed make the American version look like a circus act - a bunch of clumsy clowns running around making people laugh.

Bird2prey 03-17-2002 04:10 PM

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Originally posted by Kaimetsu


That sounds about as complicated as walking down a street.
Now now, we can't expect too much from the Americans. :p

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The fine precision exhibited in English football does indeed make the American version look like a circus act - a bunch of clumsy clowns running around making people laugh.
I'll agree with that statement.

Falcor 03-17-2002 04:36 PM

Im not a fan of football (American football) So i wouldn't konw a touch down from a hole in one, the game itself make absolutly no sence though,.

Mman 03-18-2002 03:08 AM

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Originally posted by Kaimetsu

Mm-hmm. I very much doubt it. Throwing yourself into a person doesn't require skill, only weight and muscle.

It takes skill to control the person and take him where you want him to go while he's trying to get you out of his way to go to the quarterback. Have you ever seen the players practice, coaches have to nag about even the smallest mistake because the smallest mistake can ruin the play. There are a lot of small details about every play. You have to know what step to take, the snap count, and who you're gonna hit, it's not just simply plowing into the person in front of you. You have to get your hands in the right place, take small steps, and keep your feet as close to the ground as you can when you step. Any small error can spell disaster. You have to get your hands in the right place in a matter of seconds, and if you need to go somewhere rather than blocking, you gotta get there fast because your quarterback is going to follow you. Whenever I read your comments, I know that they are coming from an idiot who knows nothing about the sport and doesn't play any sport. The idiots watching a game only see 2 people ram each other, but the linemen that hit each other know much more is involved than just strength, one could drive back a stronger person if they do what they need to in order to gain control. [sarcasm] But who am I to say it involves more than just hitting someone, I'm only the athlete who practices 5 days a week and hears the coach telling everyone about how they messed up with one of the smallest details involved in blocking someone. [/sarcasm]

Mman 03-18-2002 03:11 AM

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Originally posted by Kaimetsu

The fine precision exhibited in English football does indeed make the American version look like a circus act - a bunch of clumsy clowns running around making people laugh.

Fine precision? LOL it's just a bunch of idiots running around like chickens w/ thier heads cut off kicking a ball around.

craig_bomy 03-18-2002 03:16 AM

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Originally posted by toad1413


...

Cricket and Bowling are two completly different things! That's like comapring school with sleeping!

what? theyre not the same?

Falcor 03-18-2002 04:01 AM

You just kinda like knock down stuff with a ball... thats why it seems so related.

craig_bomy 03-18-2002 04:10 AM

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Originally posted by Mman


Too damn many people overlook the linemen and the practice they must do. It's not simply ramming people. You have to be at the right place at the right time to block the defence and clear a path for your QB. Not all plays do linemen just ram a person, some may require them to take a 90 degree turn, move back in a U shape, or even step back. If you never played American football you have no business insulting it. Training is much more rigorous.
When I get out of the stance and block someone, it takes the same "skill and finesse" to exert as much of their momentum as humanly possible into driving their opponent back and to get as much control to stop him from resisting or from driving you back.
It's like a circus act, it looks easy, but it takes a lot of practice, and that's why I play it, I like the challenge of playing a sport where I do not just have to increase agility to be better, I have to practice the plays and lift weights.

hey Im on the line. offense and defense. Do you know about the "rip and dip" technique?
:-D

craig_bomy 03-18-2002 04:13 AM

kaimetsu:
I am 14, I play varsity football. I am supposed to keep 300 pound 17 year olds from getting my quarterback and I cant wrap him up or Ill be called for holding. Tell me that just takes bulk again?

craig_bomy 03-18-2002 04:17 AM

english football also takes much skill dont get me wrong.
But any wrong turn and you could be checked in the stomache and being dogpiled. sound fun?

Mman 03-18-2002 05:15 AM

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Originally posted by craig_bomy

hey Im on the line. offense and defense. Do you know about the "rip and dip" technique?
:-D

Yeah, but only the defence does it

craig_bomy 03-18-2002 05:17 AM

Ive thrown out peoples elbow with that =D

Mman 03-18-2002 12:58 PM

agression, it's what wins games.

Heh, I'm surprised Kaimetsu hasn't commented on my remark about english football being just idiots running around like chickens with their heads cut off kicking a ball around the field.
People who watch a sport can say whatever the hell they want to, and those who play that sport can know they are *****s who don't know what the hell they are talking about

Discharge 03-18-2002 01:16 PM

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Originally posted by Faheria_GP2


you dissin' mah american pride foo?! I oughta bust a cap up yo' ass

yea what he said you monkey :D

toad1413 03-18-2002 03:01 PM

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Originally posted by Mman


It takes skill to control the person and take him where you want him to go while he's trying to get you out of his way to go to the quarterback. Have you ever seen the players practice, coaches have to nag about even the smallest mistake because the smallest mistake can ruin the play. There are a lot of small details about every play. You have to know what step to take, the snap count, and who you're gonna hit, it's not just simply plowing into the person in front of you. You have to get your hands in the right place, take small steps, and keep your feet as close to the ground as you can when you step. Any small error can spell disaster. You have to get your hands in the right place in a matter of seconds, and if you need to go somewhere rather than blocking, you gotta get there fast because your quarterback is going to follow you. Whenever I read your comments, I know that they are coming from an idiot who knows nothing about the sport and doesn't play any sport. The idiots watching a game only see 2 people ram each other, but the linemen that hit each other know much more is involved than just strength, one could drive back a stronger person if they do what they need to in order to gain control. [sarcasm] But who am I to say it involves more than just hitting someone, I'm only the athlete who practices 5 days a week and hears the coach telling everyone about how they messed up with one of the smallest details involved in blocking someone. [/sarcasm]

Ah, so you have to ram someone at the right place, right time and right angle eh?

Oh, and I'm sure that Soccer is "just a bunch of idiots running around like chickens w/ thier heads cut off kicking a ball around.", as you said.
Uh huh, when if you hit the ball ONE GODDAMN centimeter (no, I'm not going to convert it into inches, you fools) off, YOU CAN STUFF THE PLAY. Yeah, suuuuure, just kicking a ball around. Whatever, ****head. Trust me, I've played Soccer for about two years.

Bird2prey 03-18-2002 03:07 PM

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Originally posted by toad1413


Ah, so you have to ram someone at the right place, right time and right angle eh?

Oh, and I'm sure that Soccer is "just a bunch of idiots running around like chickens w/ thier heads cut off kicking a ball around.", as you said.
Uh huh, when if you hit the ball ONE GODDAMN centimeter (no, I'm not going to convert it into inches, you fools) off, YOU CAN STUFF THE PLAY. Yeah, suuuuure, just kicking a ball around. Whatever, ****head. Trust me, I've played Soccer for about two years.

I second that statement, I used to play soccer as well.

Kaimetsu 03-18-2002 03:43 PM

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Originally posted by Mman


It takes skill to control the person and take him where you want him to go while he's trying to get you out of his way to go to the quarterback.

Jeebus, have you ever even SEEN good English football? I have, and although I hate the sport, I can't help but be amazed at the incredible control the players have. They can kick a ball into a space barely bigger than the ball itself from 25 metres away. And by comparison, you think your people are skilled just because they can ram a person in some superspecial way? Pah.

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Have you ever seen the players practice, coaches have to nag about even the smallest mistake because the smallest mistake can ruin the play. There are a lot of small details about every play.
Hey, you're being an idiot again. THIS IS THE SAME FOR ANY GAME. The intensity of the training is dependent only on the players and the coaches, not the sport in which they are training.

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it's not just simply plowing into the person in front of you. You have to get your hands in the right place, take small steps, and keep your feet as close to the ground as you can when you step. Any small error can spell disaster. You have to get your hands in the right place in a matter of seconds, and if you need to go somewhere rather than blocking, you gotta get there fast because your quarterback is going to follow you.
Uh-huh. I'll answer this in a second.

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Whenever I read your comments, I know that they are coming from an idiot who knows nothing about the sport and doesn't play any sport.
Oh, an idiot? That's strange, because it seems to me that I probably have an IQ twice as high as yours, you stupid person.

And you say that only people who play the game can say how much skill it takes. Doesn't that seem convenient? I mean, if you watch English football, you can see the skill in everything the players do, but in your sport it's all hidden away from observers? Is anybody else thinking something along the lines of "Hey, I bet it doesn't take any skill at all, I bet they're just saying it does to make their sport look good"?

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The idiots watching a game only see 2 people ram each other
Oh, okay, so now everybody who doesn't play the game is an idiot. Great blanket statement there.

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but the linemen that hit each other know much more is involved than just strength, one could drive back a stronger person if they do what they need to in order to gain control. [sarcasm] But who am I to say it involves more than just hitting someone, I'm only the athlete who practices 5 days a week and hears the coach telling everyone about how they messed up with one of the smallest details involved in blocking someone. [/sarcasm]
And you've spent as long playing English football to make a comparison? Or did you just find it too difficult and resort to playing what is effectively an aggressive game of catch? Anybody who plays a sport will say that it takes skill, the only true judges are those who've played both the sports that are to be compared, or those who've played neither.

Sir Triclops 03-19-2002 08:17 AM

:rolleyes:

Jin2 03-19-2002 09:12 PM

soccer rox


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